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Gun ownership and discipline
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2017-09-18 at 3:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Exactly. And any America with the same culture as it has now would view whatever tool that was as a God given right; the tool to defend the meek and their inheritance of the Earth; the tool that is almost a responsibility for any American to own: to defend their nation, their families, their rights, their property, and themselves. I'm saying you could remove guns from the country and still have an America with vastly exaggerated violent crime and homicide rates because this idea of violently defending yourselves from all forms of tyranny, and righteous violence against those who've wronged you (see: the founding of your glorious nation) is a core tenet of American society. As is the pursuit of money by any means necessary, which in a society built on this obsession leads to a lot of people using their "tool" for shady things to make money.
I'm saying America has a particular cultural identity that breeds subcultures who idolize whatever tool happens to fill the niche of "best killing tool" for various reasons, be they moral/financial/protective/defensive etc. You could take America out of the world entirely and give all their guns (and more!) to India and not have the same problem. Because the problem isn't the availability of guns or even necessarily population density or urbanization.
I'd also say that I don't think it's even a particularly bad thing that America is the way it is: it's almost admirable, really. Freedom comes at a cost. Americans would always keep and bear arms - the best they are allowed. And restricting civilians from access to the means of defending themselves from oppression is rightfully seen as a stepping stone on the road to tyranny.~
its not american culture...its nigger/spic culture.
every statistic that tracks the rates of gun-involved crimes compared with race shows that niggers/spics are in the overwhelmingly overwhelming majority when it comes to the ones improperly using firearms. -
2017-09-18 at 3:37 PM UTC
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2017-09-18 at 3:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by RisiR † Read this post and tell me anything posted in this thread besides Scrawny's post is related.
You guys are such a bunch of scared faggots that one can't even mention guns with y'all going into crisis mode, your precious weapons clinched between your long, lanky jedi fingers. Holy shit.
This topic is for the crazy people with guns. Never been psychotic before? Topic not for you. Well, unless you speculate which is fine. Other than that, what are you idiots trying to argue?
Your itty bitty insecurities? *sigh*
Ok.
Originally posted by HTS Also: if I had a gun I'd be too busy shooting it at other things to shoot myself. At least that's what I like to think. To be honest if I had one I'd probably be dead though.
Originally posted by HTS Anyway, it's as hard as not jumping off a tall building or having a lot of drugs and not intentionally overdosing to kill yourself. So… pretty hard to resist tbh… we all already have the means. One more thing probably wouldn't make the difference is my point I guess. Legit seems like a worse way out than a massive multi-CNS depressant OD.
You're welcome.
Also pretty ironic you're talking about insecurities when you're literally so insecure about guns that you can't even trust yourself around one and decided to make a thread about that... -
2017-09-18 at 3:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS Shit, I know. §m£ÂgØL mentioned violent crime though so… you know.
Anyway, it's as hard as not jumping off a tall building or having a lot of drugs and not intentionally overdosing to kill yourself. So… pretty hard to resist tbh… we all already have the means. One more thing probably wouldn't make the difference is my point I guess. Legit seems like a worse way out than a massive multi-CNS depressant OD.
I'm in a hurry but pressing a trigger seems like such a little thing that compulsion could easily overtake someone who is, for example, already fucked up on Benzos. -
2017-09-18 at 3:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by RisiR † What about mental ilness? The fucking topic of this thread?
As I said, fucking stupid. People who are dumb, fucked in the ehad etc shouldn't have guns, for their own good. Any normal or reasonably intelligent person will understand gun control and the risk of accidentally or intentionally shooting yourself or a loved one should be zero. -
2017-09-18 at 3:40 PM UTCI know I can't trust myself while heavily medicated. That's why I stopped and don't own a gun.
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2017-09-18 at 3:40 PM UTC
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2017-09-18 at 3:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by RisiR † Read this post and tell me anything posted in this thread besides Scrawny's post is related.
You guys are such a bunch of scared faggots that one can't even mention guns with y'all going into crisis mode, your precious weapons clinched between your long, lanky jedi fingers. Holy shit.
This topic is for the crazy people with guns. Never been psychotic before? Topic not for you. Well, unless you speculate which is fine. Other than that, what are you idiots trying to argue?
Your itty bitty insecurities? *sigh*
Ok.
psychotic people arent supposed to have guns in the first place, you fucking bosnian retard. -
2017-09-18 at 3:41 PM UTC
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2017-09-18 at 3:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by RisiR † I'm in a hurry but pressing a trigger seems like such a little thing that compulsion could easily overtake someone who is, for example, already fucked up on Benzos.
I mean... why do you think "loading a gun, putting it to your head, and pulling the trigger" would be considerably less involved than "loading a needle, putting it to your vein, and pushing the plunger"? Eh. A gram of H or a few mg of fent is generally more effective than a similar amount of lead would be. Especially if you're already on benzos.
Also this begs the question: why do you trust yourself around benzos? -
2017-09-18 at 3:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon As I said, fucking stupid. People who are dumb, fucked in the ehad etc shouldn't have guns, for their own good. Any normal or reasonably intelligent person will understand gun control and the risk of accidentally or intentionally shooting yourself or a loved one should be zero.
and it never ceases to amaze me how many people continue to shoot things they dont mean to shoot.
its as simple as keeping the fucking barrel constantly pointed at something that you dont mind a bullet splattering into at a high rate of speed. ive watched people show off their guns and muzzle sweep the fuck out of everyone. i watch dumbfucks at various places that sell guns constantly muzzle-sweep each other. basic etiquette of handing someone a gun is make sure its not loaded and nothing is in the magazine/clip/cylinder/chamber...then they also check the magazine/clip/cylinder/chamber. i even go a step further and point the gun somewhere that a bullet ventilating wont be a big deal and pull the trigger. i have literally told people that if they muzzle sweep me one more time i will take away their gun and shove it up their ass.
when i was in the military we had 55-gallon drums filled with sand that we'd stick the muzzle into (into the drum...not into the sand) and pull the trigger. -
2017-09-18 at 3:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS I mean… why do you think "loading a gun, putting it to your head, and pulling the trigger" would be considerably less involved than "loading a needle, putting it to your vein, and pushing the plunger"? Eh. A gram of H or a few mg of fent is generally more effective than a similar amount of lead would be. Especially if you're already on benzos.
Also this begs the question: why do you trust yourself around benzos?
dont try to discourage him. let him ventilate his useless self -
2017-09-18 at 3:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by RisiR † You said you moved away from Queens when the Asians moved in, not the black people.
youre the observant one.
ironically...i read a news article today about queens and two buses playing bumper cars. most of the people they interviewed had slant-eye names. when i lived there i dont recall seeing a single slant eye...it was mostly spics. -
2017-09-18 at 3:51 PM UTC
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2017-09-18 at 3:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by RisiR † Read the title you illiterate niggers. SUICIDAL GUYS…
if youre mentally unstable to the point of being suicidal youre not supposed to have guns, you fucking retard. dont try to pawn off the blame from your own stupid ass retard self and place it squarely on the guns, you fucking retard.
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2017-09-18 at 3:53 PM UTC
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2017-09-18 at 4:40 PM UTCI think I've mentioned this before, but suicidal people that own a gun are few and far between because most of 'em are dead.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-09-18 at 4:45 PM UTCYes, crazy people shouldn't own guns. That's not the point. I just wanted to know how it feels to be in that position because I don't know what I would do.
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2017-09-18 at 4:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by RisiR † Yes, crazy people shouldn't own guns. That's not the point. I just wanted to know how it feels to be in that position because I don't know what I would do.
Casper can address this, been witness to him drunkenly/druggingly toying with a gun pointed to his head, in seeming contemplation of pulling le trigger.
What do you say, CASPER? -
2017-09-18 at 4:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by HTS I mean… why do you think "loading a gun, putting it to your head, and pulling the trigger" would be considerably less involved than "loading a needle, putting it to your vein, and pushing the plunger"? Eh. A gram of H or a few mg of fent is generally more effective than a similar amount of lead would be. Especially if you're already on benzos.
Also this begs the question: why do you trust yourself around benzos?
Do you mean, having Benzos in the house? Uhm, I don't know. They only pose a danger to my mental health when consumed in high doses over a longer time. That's why I stopped taking them.
I think I don't assosciate Heroin with death. I also don't assosciate suicide with just going to sleep forever. I just think it needs violence and force to put me down. Something a gun symbolizes to me.
