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Mouth Wash Doesn't Conceal the Smell of Alcohol
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2017-09-01 at 8:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL - The breath device must be on a conforming list of acceptable devices.
- The breath device must be properly maintained and checked for accuracy at regular, set intervals.
- The person administering the test must be certified in the use of that particular device.
- The person administering the test must do so in accordance with his training.
- The person administering the test must ensure the test subject does not burp, regurgitate, eat, vomit, or smoke for a period of time immediately prior to the testing sequence.
- The breath test must capture at least two measurable readings that are within .02 of one another.
A skilled defense attorney can subpoena the maintenance and calibration records of the Breathalyzer on which you tested, possibly using them as evidence that the equipment was not properly tuned to deliver entirely reliable test results.
At that point, the burden will shift back to the government to prove the defendant's intoxication through some other type of evidence such as the odor of alcohol on the suspect's breath, red or watery eyes, bad driving, poor performance on roadside field sobriety tests or a car accident.
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2017-09-01 at 8:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by NARCassist if a cop here wants to search you without reasonable cause, there go to excuse is 'i can smell cannabis'. they say that because they know full well it can neither be proved nor disproved in a court at a later date. the cop can justify it simply by saying 'maybe i was mistaken but i thought i could smell cannabis at the time'.
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Oh absolutely it's the same here too m8. Any bullshit reason they can come up with or make up- 'I saw the passenger move his hand suspiciously as though he was stashing something,' or shit like that. I would use my above defense for this too, when making a case for illegal search and seizure, but like you said for the cop at the time to search, he doesn't need proof of anything, just that stupid reasonable cause.
Unfortunately my above defense wouldn't work for this, I don't think. It's reasonable to think the driver is drinking if you can smell booze from his general direction, even if it isn't guaranteed.
I'd like to know more about reasonable/probable cause, like, does a cop have to PROVE they had reasonable cause, because that would allow for more good defenses. If a cop's word for reasonable cause is automatically upheld in a court of law, that would ruin it, along with being bullshit, but if the cop was obligated to prove his claims, any scent-based accusations would be thrown out the window, assuming there isn't a way to prove you smelled something somewhere in the past. The cop would have to take pictures or bodycam footage of things like fucked up eyes or behavior. That's how it should be. Physical evidence to support the reasonable cause. There's no fucking reason a cop's word should ever be considered factual without supporting evidence, regardless of their profession to upheld the law. I guess it should carry some weight, generally and comparatively speaking, against a known criminal or whatever, but that should never alone be enough to convict a person of anything.
Why am I so typative today? Oh. OH. :)
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2017-09-01 at 8:56 PM UTCwe don't have that illegal search and seizure thing here. so if he searches you and finds drugs, even if its not cannabis, then as far as the court concerns you were found in possession and have to answer that. if the cop searched somebody on those grounds and found nothing, then the searchee made a complaint, then the cop would use the 'i smelt cannabis' routine as his defence. being that although drugs were not found, that it is totally plausible the searchee may have been around cannabis being smoked recent to the search. again something that can be neither proved nor disproved. its all bullshit, everyone in the court will know its bullshit but that is how the courts here will choose to see it.
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2017-09-01 at 9:37 PM UTCThankfully, I don't need to be concerned with concealing the smell.
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2017-09-01 at 11:27 PM UTCThey say if you drink alone, that you're a pathetic alcoholic. But if you lock yourself in a room and have your wife, husband, whatever hide your keys and don't leave that room.. go full on drunk on the internet on one of those cam sites.. with other drunks.. it's like a fucking barroom
everyone is safe until the next morning when you find cam shots of you spreading your asscheecks for laughs like goatse -
2017-09-01 at 11:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Totse 2001 They say if you drink alone, that you're a pathetic alcoholic. But if you lock yourself in a room and have your wife, husband, whatever hide your keys and don't leave that room.. go full on drunk on the internet on one of those cam sites.. with other drunks.. it's like a fucking barroom
everyone is safe until the next morning when you find cam shots of you spreading your asscheecks for laughs like goatse
Drinking alone isn't pathetic anymore than doing anything alone is, in the opinion of mine. I understand why people say it though, what with it generally being considered a social drug, using it alone comes across as depressing and sad, like you said. Hell, often times it is, but not inherently. You got dads drinking ales while they fuck around on their cars or in their workshops, you've got single people getting home after an exhausting day of work and winding down with some ales, and you've got those who are able to use alcohol as a creative boost and drink alone to spark ideas for whatever their art is, loosening up the mind, easing the subconscious and unnecessary tension.
I'm a very social drinker, but I also tend to get stupid, so combine that with the marked up prices at bars and clubs, and having been to more than my fair share of all that going out shit over the course of my life, I've grown pretty content with trying to take it easy and just stay home when I drink, but when I have the means to do so I will usually tinychat to feed my need for interaction. Even playing multiplayer games online satisfies it but I don't do well at video games after a get a good buzz going. Video chat rooms are basically the closest thing to irl interaction anyway- you can see, be seen, talk, and listen. The saddest part to me is not being able to pass the pipe to someone else or stick my fist up grimace's asshole for funzies.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-09-02 at 12:03 AM UTC
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2017-09-02 at 12:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Tell it to Hunter S. Thompson! Tell it to Edgar Allen! Hemingway! Bukowski! Faulkner!! Go on, tell them!!!
it wasnt alcohol that made them creative.
alcohol numbed their senses so that they wont feel the fatigue from repetitive editing and re-editing and re-re-reediting their works.
none of them just sat down and type and out come masterpieces. -
2017-09-02 at 12:25 AM UTCMany of the greatest musicians of all time were alkies and drug addicts.
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2017-09-02 at 12:27 AM UTC
Originally posted by Totse 2001 They say if you drink alone, that you're a pathetic alcoholic. But if you lock yourself in a room and have your wife, husband, whatever hide your keys and don't leave that room.. go full on drunk on the internet on one of those cam sites.. with other drunks.. it's like a fucking barroom
everyone is safe until the next morning when you find cam shots of you spreading your asscheecks for laughs like goatse
I'm drinking alone right now.
I have actually spread my ass cheeks on tinychat. -
2017-09-02 at 3:53 PM UTChuffing activated charcoal dust is the best way to conceal alcohol breath.
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2017-09-02 at 4:19 PM UTC
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2017-09-02 at 4:50 PM UTCPeanut butter.
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2017-09-02 at 4:52 PM UTC
