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2017-05-08 at 2:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by AltarEgo "Coming to Russia, don’t complain about its weather. Remember that our climate was designed as a weapon against invading armies"
Lol what the actual fuck? Do they really think the climate was designed rather than just being lucky to have such shit weather that invasion is nearly impossible?
But on the other hand Uncle Sam trying to open a migrant center in Moscow is just full fucking retard. More proof of the Zog right there.
the weather thing was more applicable in the Korean War era and prior. nowadays the commie weather would be just a major inconvenience. -
2017-05-08 at 2:14 AM UTCDepends on what sort of war is fought I guess - long range missile exchange, bombardment from the sea or an air it'd be minimal but in the case of ground war, equipment failure would be an epidemic.
PS sorry, summary post above is retarded, I I compensate for my small penis with my phone -
2017-05-08 at 2:18 AM UTC
Originally posted by Discount Whore Is this real life?
Russian government's made a statement that they have measures they can use if this passes, but in essence it's an attempt to have US domestic law supersede international law. They've also said that attempting to enforce controls on foreign ports would be nothing short of an act of war.
KOREA - China's put forward a resolution at the EU where NK will cease nuclear and ICBM testing if the US and SK will cease the constant military drills in the region. They'd also like to see the THAAD system removed but I don't think that's explicitly part of the agreement. -
2017-05-08 at 7:22 AM UTC
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2017-05-08 at 7:31 AM UTCCan't believe people think Assad is worse than ISIS. May I present Libya and Iraq? Fucking Indian shit nigro. We need them to be stable.
Tried finding that guide for the heck of it but he's removed the twitter post. If anybody can find it and gives no fuck about the NSA, post a link. I'm assuming he wrote it. -
2017-05-08 at 7:50 AM UTCyeah, looks like he's purged caches as well so I can't find any trace of the tweet, even though it's reported and screencapped in several places.
None seem to have taken a copy of the URL either; that's archive.org's TLD so the partial URL is way too huge to narrow down a single document. -
2017-05-09 at 5:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra SYRIA - Serious thing - I found out what the US plans to do with the armor at the Jordan border.
Once the SAA manages to crush AQ's strongholds in the west, their last real enemy will be ISIS in the east. After their forces that were assigned to fighting AQ are freed up, they had planned to push East to the Iraqi border and essentially combine with the Iraqi military and PMUs for joint operations on both sides of the border.
The US HATES this idea, mostly because they're not involved*. Their goal is to forcibly inject themselves into relevance - the SAA are expecting the US military to deploy any day now, staging from Jordan and entrenching themselves down the Syria-Iraq border as a sort of human shield.
SAA reps have posted this to their Facebook as clarification to official statements made on the matter.
*I was only being half-sarcastic; the US cannot handle not being the centre of the dispute-resolution process but I suspect the main reason they oppose the co-operation of the two armies is because they don't want Iraq reinforcing Assad's government as they still have (somewhat unrealistic) expectations that he'll be ousted. Deeper co-operation between the two states would mean forcing US advisors, influence and industry out of Iraq, and co-ordination between the two armies will make it much more difficult to keep ISIS in action as a regime-change asset.
Huge concentration of US/FSA forces (supported by Jordanian logistics teams) on the Jordan border, supposedly looks like they're readying to cross at Al-Tanf (literally on the 3-way border between Jordan, Syria and Iraq)... -
2017-05-10 at 2:02 AM UTCSYRIA - US is trying to win back the Kurds by offering them 'heavy weapons' - they've been handing out TOW launchers (anti-tank guided missiles) to the moderate jihadis like candy, but have refused to give them to the Kurds, presumably afraid they'd be used against the Turkish military. It's not clear exactly what weapons have been authorised, but previous comments allude to TOW launchers and mortars.
They still appear to be trying to court both Turkey and the Syrian Kurds at the same time, even though both groups have largely lost faith. They could potentially win influence by picking one side over the other, but as it stands, the Turks are breaking away from US foreign policy in favour of a political settlement (Astana talks) and the Kurds are working directly with the SAA and Russia. This just seems like they're doubling down on an already-failed strategy. -
2017-05-10 at 7:02 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Huge concentration of US/FSA forces (supported by Jordanian logistics teams) on the Jordan border, supposedly looks like they're readying to cross at Al-Tanf (literally on the 3-way border between Jordan, Syria and Iraq)…
SAA reporting they're pushing east and have taken up positions. It's a RACE TO THE BORDER -
2017-05-10 at 8:56 AM UTC
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2017-05-11 at 2:19 AM UTC
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2017-05-11 at 2:41 AM UTCSYRIA - Al-Nusra/HTS etc. is now targeting all groups participating in the Astana peace talks, including the US-backed 'FSA' groups.
Previously they've worked together; the US (or at least the DoD) has now apparently made an effort to separate Al-Nusra from their less rabid counterparts - only once they were able to establish the Kurdish militias as a viable ally, as historically they've been unable to vet and train significant numbers of 'moderates' without them dying or deserting to Al-Nusra and taking their shiny new American weapons with them. -
2017-05-11 at 5:04 AM UTCIs anybody else happy about increased backing for the Kurds?
#hashtagKurdistan2017# -
2017-05-11 at 5:08 AM UTC
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2017-05-11 at 5:12 AM UTC
Originally posted by Discount Whore Is anybody else happy about increased backing for the Kurds?
#hashtagKurdistan2017#
I have mixed feelings about the Kurds in general; the Syrian Kurds seem to be pretty cool though, good fighters with terrible leadership. One of the groups knowingly allowed the Yazidi massacre in 2014 by pulling back fighters from the front.
I'm all for giving them the means to defend themselves from Turkey (especially given what they did at Cizre), but I think most of them understand that an independent Kurdish state would cause more problems than it's worth. Iraqi Kurds are a bit of a different story though. -
2017-05-11 at 5:15 AM UTC
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2017-05-11 at 5:16 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I have mixed feelings about the Kurds in general; the Syrian Kurds seem to be pretty cool though, good fighters with terrible leadership. One of the groups knowingly allowed the Yazidi massacre in 2014 by pulling back fighters from the front.
I'm all for giving them the means to defend themselves from Turkey (especially given what they did at Cizre), but I think most of them understand that an independent Kurdish state would cause more problems than it's worth. Iraqi Kurds are a bit of a different story though.
I'm not aware of Iraqi Kurds being much different. Care to share?
I feel you're right about Kurdistan. It'd just be a shit fuck show that'd probably increase terrorism. Turkey would no doubt try to invade and they would probably have support in doing it or at the least be left alone in their invasion. In an ideal world though it would all be Kurdistan.
Plus, jihadists shaking in their boots over the fear of being killed by a woman makes me smile.
Imagine if the Kurds turned to terrorism and instead of spreading jihad, spread the ideas of secularism and westernization. Would be some interesting dynamics if they got powerful enough. -
2017-05-11 at 5:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by Discount Whore I'm not aware of Iraqi Kurds being much different. Care to share?
I'm not terribly familiar with their history or anything like that, but my interpretation is that they often fall in line with the US and European powers because outside of their enclaves, they're not terribly well-liked in Islamic states. They regularly get boned when their 'sponsors' pull out and leave them at the mercy of either the jihadis they were backed to fight or the state that doesn't like them much, but given their minority status they just keep falling for the same lines again and again.
The Syrian Kurds are different in that regard because Syria is (was?) a largely secular state and they had a working relationship with the government. When war broke out they were targeted by Islamic groups but not persecuted by an overwhelming force so they largely operated as a defensive militia. Their working relationship with the US seems very tentative; like I've written about before they're not interested in fighting the SAA, only ISIS, their most direct threat. Their relationship with the US seems to only extend to common goals, not western ideology or long-term plans like fragmenting the state or deposing Assad.
The Iraqi Kurds have already broken away to form their own state and are led by Barzani, who in contrast seems to often put US goals ahead of his peoples' wishes. It makes some sense because they were actively persecuted under Saddam and have less faith in the state, but it seems to me that he's taking the 'my enemy's enemy' bit too far and it will end poorly when the US leave him holding the bag, so to speak.
As for splitting off Rojava (Northern Syria) as it's own independent state, the Syrian Kurds know that they'd have to deal with Turkey themselves and the SAA (which has long been a pillar of security in the region) will not be able to protect them. They'd immediately be declared a 'terrorist state' by Turkey. They also know that it'd weaken Syria's (who they would still consider as a close ally, even if they were to secede) position immensely, and I like to hope they realise that the US will not go away once that's done and their history of being shafted by the west is just going to continue, harder and faster.
I suspect that the Syrian Kurds would be unwilling to break away, and that's why the US is intent on bringing the Iraqi Peshmergas into the mix. -
2017-05-11 at 6:05 PM UTCWell put. Didn't know that about the Syrian Kurds being allied with the SAA. But I thought the US were backing the YPG, not the Peshmerga? Talking about the increased support that's been in the news. I know we already back the Peshmerga.