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Conflict Shitpile II - Sarin-like Substance Edition
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2017-05-12 at 2:24 AM UTC
Originally posted by Discount Whore Well put. Didn't know that about the Syrian Kurds being allied with the SAA.
I'll find some examples later, but the Syrian Kurdish militias, prior to attacking Raqqa would often hand the areas they'd cleared of Jihadis over to the SAA because they didn't have the manpower to defend the liberated areas and still press forward. Ties were strengthened when Russia and the SAA put themselves between the Turkish military and the YPG while the US were still trying to work out how to play both sides - many YPG-held regions flew (fly?) Syrian and Russian flags.But I thought the US were backing the YPG, not the Peshmerga? Talking about the increased support that's been in the news. I know we already back the Peshmerga.
Clarification:
The Peshmergas are Iraqi Kurdish milita groups.
The SDF (Syrian Democratic Forces) are pretty much a blanket term the US have given to Syrian Kurdish militias willing to fight ISIS.
The YPG are an actual Kurdish faction that make up a good chunk of the SDF and are considered by the Turks to be a terrorist organisation because they support the PKK, a Kurdish seperatist group trying to declare an autonomous Kurdish state in Turkey. I don't know how valid that claim is.
I believe what's happening is that the SDF are largely uninterested in creating an independent Kurdish state in Syria so the US is more or less trying to import the Peshmergas who think differently. Once Raqqa falls they're likely to declare a 'humanitarian mission' and push for the creation of Rojava as an independent state, using the desires of the imported Iraqi Kurds to justify it. -
2017-05-12 at 4:31 AM UTC
KOREA - Korea's been testing nuclear weapons for the last decade or so,
nuclear weapons are a hoax. they do not exist. -
2017-05-13 at 8:45 AM UTCLIBYA - Saudi Arabia are apparently getting involved... I don't really understand the mess of factions fighting each other at the moment but it sounds like they're working on exploding the fractures in the alliance that comprises the provisional 'government'.
More on this when I'm more familiar with Libya's current state. -
2017-05-13 at 6:50 PM UTCIRAQ/SYRIA - There's been a lot of infighting between different Kurdish factions; just saw news articles indicating that westerners fighting ISIS with the YPG were arrested by the Peshmergas when they crossed into Iraq/Kurdistan on their way home.
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2017-05-13 at 6:57 PM UTCI don't think much is going to change any time soon, no end in sight until some of the larger regional powers step up their involvement. But I also see no evidence this is gonna happen either because nobody wants to touch this mess.
It's not like perpetual war is anything new for this part of the world but right now it seems to me like ending the "conflict" (a hodgepodge of wars and crisis) is impossible, all you can do is try to contain it or make some money off it. -
2017-05-14 at 5:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump I don't think much is going to change any time soon, no end in sight until some of the larger regional powers step up their involvement. But I also see no evidence this is gonna happen either because nobody wants to touch this mess.
It's not like perpetual war is anything new for this part of the world but right now it seems to me like ending the "conflict" (a hodgepodge of wars and crisis) is impossible, all you can do is try to contain it or make some money off it.
endless war IS the plan
IRAQ - Apparently they've gotten sick of ISIS using quadcopters to drop grenades on their positions, so they're now industrially-producing their own drone-mounted ordnance to return the favour:
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2017-05-14 at 5:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra LIBYA - Saudi Arabia are apparently getting involved… I don't really understand the mess of factions fighting each other at the moment but it sounds like they're working on exploding the fractures in the alliance that comprises the provisional 'government'.
More on this when I'm more familiar with Libya's current state.
the most simplistic idea of having multiple factions which change their allegiance and purpose frequently is to assure the inability of the unwashed masses to keep track and lose interest. without a simple A vs B the normal mind gets muddled and loses iterest -
2017-05-15 at 7:08 AM UTCSYRIA - A Turk's come out and admitted he joined the White Helmets explicitly to stage fake chemical weapons attacks. He was paid by the 'local councils' (term given to the local, city-scale governments set up by rebels in their occupied zones) and Turkish television stations in order to falsify attacks and act in media footage of same.
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2017-05-17 at 3:57 AM UTCYEMEN - Massive cholera outbreak due to the enforced famine and lack of... everything that the head of the UNHRC is inflicting on the country.
Unofficial count is 225 deaths and 7K confirmed infections as of two days ago.
***I've been out of the loop for the last week or so, digging back into it now.
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2017-05-17 at 5:20 AM UTCSYRIA - It's another shoah!
Reports are now circulating that the government recently built a 'crematorium' attached to a Damascus prison, claiming that it's used to dispose of bodies of the executed, which they're presumeably basing off the Human Rights Watch report stating prisoners are being killed by the thousands.
1. The 'crematorium' is in all likelihood is a furnace for heating the facility.
2. As per the cremation claims of the holocaust, completely incinerating a body is nowhere near as quick and easy as certain people would have you believe - it takes an enormous amount of time and fuel... In a country with a dire fuel shortage due to crippling sanctions during a state of war.
3. The Human Rights Watch report is ridiculous in it's own right. It takes claims from an Al-Qaeda fighter at face value without any research, and extrapolates the numbers across months - ie. a terrorist told them that the government was executing hundreds of people a week, and they extrapolated that value over months so now 'Assad kills tens of thousands of prisoners'. -
2017-05-18 at 5:28 AM UTCSYRIA - Following on from the last entry, Yoav Galant, Israeli minister for housing (ie. settlement building and eviction of natives) has openly called for Assad's assassination and subsequent strikes on Iran, claiming that he (and Iran by extension I guess) is responsible for a 'genocide' of his own people. Again this attempts to frame the Syrian war as an internal secterian war, when in reality the majority of rebels are Sunni because outside powers have directly targeted that sect for jihadi recruitment (Saudi Arabia's extreme Wahhabism and more general Salafism seem to take the Sunni doctrine to extremes); the makeup of the SAA (even before it started taking on surrendered rebels as conscripts) was fairly evenly split between Shia and Sunni, with Sunni representing just over 50%.
It's also worth considering that it's unlikely that Galant had the authority to make such a provocative statement of his own accord - it's not a stretch to view this as the official position of the Israeli government, even if they can't say it outright for political reasons (likely due to relations with Russia and not wanting to telegraph the US' policy). -
2017-05-19 at 1:55 AM UTCSYRIA - US/coalition warplanes have bombed an SAA fighting group near the Syria-Jordan border where the bulk of US military hardware is stationed. According to the SAA, the attack killed six and destroyed some military hardware.
Western media echoes the US military's version of events; that the group had attacked an FSA group in the area, who called in a coalition airstrip after 'multiple warnings'.
SAA command is yet to issue an official statement but unofficially, they're claiming that the group who was attacked did not come into contact with the FSA or anyone else and received no warning prior to the attack - their only forewarning was when radar picked up the jets making unusual movements toward them, which was apparently long enough for them to prep AA guns. Upon seeing the guns the jets went to a higher altitude which allowed long range S-200 systems to paint them, forcing them to break off before completing the attack.
I'll write more when I know more, but this looks to be related to the rush to the Iraqi border. -
2017-05-19 at 3:31 AM UTCStill waiting on an official statement.
The reports that we have are as following, however before you read it please note that as highly confident we are in our sources, we leave ourselves a small margin of error. Under normal circumstances we would not share unless we are 100% sure of the validity of our information, but this is an exception.
The jets conducted the attack on the Syrian para-military forces were Jordanian.
SyAAD identified the jets using US-Coalition identifiers, and the communication between the pilots was in English to lower the suspecion from a possible attack against the Syrian forces on the ground.
When the jets took an unusual course the troops on the ground took the proper defensive maneuvers.
The jets conducted a strike at the convoy, at least six were martyred and small number of equipment lost.
The troops used the AA guns present and opened fire, the attacking jets broke off their attack and retreated to Jordanian airspace.
The location of the aggression was 40km from al-Tanaf, and 10km from SAA main forces in the area.
Regardless of the type of the forces that were targeted by this aggression, they work under the flag of the Syrian Arab Republic, and in the ranks of the Syrian Arab Armed Forces; thus this aggression is an aggression on the Syrian Arab Armed Forces.
As always, do not expect reactions based on other's actions, in many cases they wanted to push the Syrian command into reacting without calculation. However, we do not speak for the command and we do not know what will happen next. -
2017-05-22 at 4:29 AM UTCSAUDI ARABIA - This is highly unreliable, but I'm hearing a lot of rumours that Saudi Arabia have obtained several low-yield nuclear weapons, ostensibly from either China or Israel. This apparently happened long before the Syria conflict, but they're now considering using them against Iran because they (Saudi) know they're running out of oil and will lose control of the entire petrodollar economy if they can be supplanted by Iran.
Again, completely unverifiable, but it does help to explain the hostility between the two countries that erupted recently. -
2017-05-22 at 6:18 AM UTC
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2017-05-22 at 6:19 AM UTC
just saw this come up on facebook
serendipity
or potent behaviour modeling algorithms
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2017-05-22 at 5:14 PM UTCSYRIA - Here's something interesting, these photos were found on a dead ISIS commander and they're of the workings of a large tank workshop outside Palmyra:
http://within-syria.blogspot.com.au/2017/05/isis-tanks-from-workshop-to-farm.html -
2017-05-22 at 7:08 PM UTC
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2017-05-23 at 5:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by AltarEgo Funny. I just saw that one as well. Im interested to see if this new alliance will do what it says or if its just posturing.
Literally just propaganda, I'm surprised Trump backed it though. Wait, surprised is the wrong word, disappointed maybe?
Anyway Saudi Arabia's claimed this before, and over half the countries they ascribed as part of the group had never even been asked or told about it... I remember a rep from Tunisia or something interrupting the UN meeting to ask what the hell they were talking about.
The US, UK and Gulf States are the largest exporters of modern terrorism. The fact that the majority of terrorist groups are Arabic and Islamic creates something of a disconnect where people don't recognise the US and UK's role, but it boggles the mind that Saudi Arabia is able to get away with this rhetoric while single-handedly seeding the world with wahabbism and salafism, the extreme vein of Islam that almost all present Islamic jihad groups subscribe to.
Saudi Arabia have paved the way for ISIS (and I mean ISIS, not generic Islam or general terrorist groups, ISIS) to make massive gains in Indonesia through their sponsorship of wahabbi churches and highly hostile preachers and imams.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-05-23 at 7:51 AM UTCYEMEN - Saudi Arabia has been making extensive use of cheap African mercs, largely from Sudan and Mali, but they're very disorganised and generally nowhere near as competent as the regular Yemen military even though they have combat experience.
Aftermath of a recent battle where they lost 15+ armored vehicles (mixed tanks and APCs) and an unknown number of soldiers:
