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wtf is goinf n in poland and belarus fuys?
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2021-11-15 at 1:40 PM UTCyea i dont get those people even non polaks on that polish forum at all i mean why are they so mad?
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2021-11-15 at 1:55 PM UTCbecause they're dumb and TV man tells them to beThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2021-11-15 at 2:39 PM UTCyea but in all hojesty how can you trust russian or belarussian sources either? Where do u get ur sources from?
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2021-11-15 at 7:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by Wariat yea but in all hojesty how can you trust russian or belarussian sources either? Where do u get ur sources from?
it's not about sources; in this case it's a matter of looking at the bigger picture - the causes and events leading up to what's happened, rather than just statements being made on either side.
1. Many migrants and refugees from the Middle East and North Africa have traditionally tried to entire the EU (due to its high living standards and exorbitent social welfare programs) through Eastern Europe, in this case Belarus.
2. Much of this migration is a direct result of EU policy - from supporting wars that destroy countries (see Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria etc) to lax immigration controls encouraging the migration of extended families to entire communities.
3. Belarus has acted as a 'hard border', blocking immigrants so that the EU can advertise that they 'welcome everyone' and 'value diversity' without getting totally overrun.
4. Belarus has stopped playing that role in response to EU sanctions - they're not creating migrants, they're simply allowing them passage so that the EU now has to deal with accepting or rejecting them directly. Belarus has made the argument that under the new sanctions, they simply cannot afford to continue operations.
5.The EU has sanctioned Belarus for two major reasons - the first being the most recent elections (which the west in general did not consider to be fair), and the second being the incident where Belarus forced a plane down in it's airspace in order to arrest a Belarusian citizen who had been fighting with the Ukrainian Volunteer Battalions (who the EU characterises as a 'journalist').
Both sides have reasons for what they're doing and they're not as simple as retarded narratives like 'Putin is doing this to destroy the EU, as if Russia would somehow benefit from destroying its biggest market for agricultural and energy sales.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-11-15 at 8:06 PM UTCi was also asking aboutnyour claim there is no evidence russia sent soldiers or specisl forces to ukriwne to fight donbas. what sources do you use for this?
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2021-11-15 at 9:04 PM UTCYou better hurry up and get that ass licked before Putin's crew steam roll in and send you to the Gulag.
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2021-11-16 at 12:55 AM UTCapparently unlike trump poland has decided to built an actual wall along the border.
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2021-11-16 at 12:57 AM UTCwhat i dont get aldra is why the polish media is so aligned with western media or why are they so on the same side all the time and especially when it comes to belarus or russia with regard to anything vonsidering poland isnt really a western country?
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2021-11-16 at 1:26 AM UTCJust looking at wariats posts feels like I googled massive shit and looked at any of the images
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2021-11-16 at 1:35 AM UTC
Originally posted by Wariat what i dont get aldra is why the polish media is so aligned with western media or why are they so on the same side all the time and especially when it comes to belarus or russia with regard to anything vonsidering poland isnt really a western country?
Nowhere really is a western country. This side might as well be the holy Roman Empire for how disjointed we are. In comparison to Russia and the Chinese. -
2021-11-16 at 1:53 AM UTChow can you call poland a western country where not only is everyone opposed and the govt to trans and furries and most i would argue including the govt to lgtbs and metoo and wokeness, but one where most of those things dont exist? not even shared bathrooms but public bathrooms are even hard to come by in some cities and many retaurants have unibathrooms for both sexes?
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2021-11-16 at 3:30 AM UTC
Originally posted by Wariat how can you call poland a western country
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/western-countries
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2021-11-16 at 3:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by Wariat how can you call poland a western country where not only is everyone opposed and the govt to trans and furries and most i would argue including the govt to lgtbs and metoo and wokeness, but one where most of those things dont exist? not even shared bathrooms but public bathrooms are even hard to come by in some cities and many retaurants have unibathrooms for both sexes?
Not everyone is for the queer agenda in the west. We're just going through a phase, like workers' rights or "equality"
It'll pass.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-11-16 at 3:36 AM UTCI dont know man even bathroom rapes are not making it wane thats a bad sign. and when even king kobra is trying to defend it and that dude is drunk 24/7 thats a bad sign as well.
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2021-11-16 at 3:38 AM UTClol Polish soldiers Tinder profiles are showing up in Belarus:
independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/belarus-poland-border-tinder-troops-b1957953.htmlThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-11-16 at 3:39 AM UTChow many western countries do you guys know with an annual 300 thousand strong national march happening?
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2021-11-16 at 9:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by Wariat how can you call poland a western country where not only is everyone opposed and the govt to trans and furries and most i would argue including the govt to lgtbs and metoo and wokeness, but one where most of those things dont exist? not even shared bathrooms but public bathrooms are even hard to come by in some cities and many retaurants have unibathrooms for both sexes?
By this logic the western world didn't even exist in the 1990s. -
2021-11-16 at 9:22 AM UTC
Originally posted by Wariat i was also asking aboutnyour claim there is no evidence russia sent soldiers or specisl forces to ukriwne to fight donbas. what sources do you use for this?
you don't need to prove a negative. if someone were to say that Russia was deploying military inside the Ukraine it'd be up to them to prove it.
do you have any evidence that there was an actual Russian deployment outside of the Crimea? I've seen a lot of claims but the evidence never stands up.
Originally posted by Wariat what i dont get aldra is why the polish media is so aligned with western media or why are they so on the same side all the time and especially when it comes to belarus or russia with regard to anything vonsidering poland isnt really a western country?
because the EU is Poland's sugar daddyThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-11-16 at 9:25 AM UTChttp://thesaker.is/lukashenko-must-go-an-russia-and-belarus-must-truly-unite/
interesting article, gives a Russian perspective on the geopolitics of itThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-11-16 at 1:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra you don't need to prove a negative. if someone were to say that Russia was deploying military inside the Ukraine it'd be up to them to prove it.
do you have any evidence that there was an actual Russian deployment outside of the Crimea? I've seen a lot of claims but the evidence never stands up.
because the EU is Poland's sugar daddy
It's pretty funny at the time I read several articles about how creating "cauldrons" by herding and encircling troops is a Russian ploy and that was evidence of Russian involvement by people who know nothing of war and tactics used. There was a huge buildup in Rostov on Don and I saw some evidence of troups being taken home in bodybags and their families acknowledging they died in battle and they get awesome pensions but won't tell on Russia for sending them over
Basically Russia mostly Sent logistics operatives, technicians and strategists in terms of their military but sent much more aid in terms of humanitarian supplies, gas and medical aid, much to the chagrin of porky who literally wanted to starve the civilians to death. Fuck I hope someday he passes off the wrong people and they proceed with a war crimes tribunal he sorely needsThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
