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If you had a false memory how would you know?
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2021-05-28 at 5:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Yes. And so we arrive at 'Cogito ergo sum'. If you wanna believe you're a Boltzman Brain running elaborate simulations on yourself be my guest. But that proposition is not more 'apparently mostly true' than: I am me, you are you, we have imperfect knowledge but we can agree on a reality that seems mostly true most of the time.
You forgot "apparently" again...
No we can't agree on "mostly true" only "apparently mostly true"...they are quite different statements.
Everything you think you know might be a fabrication of 1, the simulation or 2, your brain. -
2021-05-28 at 7:22 PM UTCGood news everyone. Fire actually happened. Everyone was fine. I had the street right just not the exact address. Crisis averted.
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2021-05-28 at 7:29 PM UTC
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2021-05-28 at 8:22 PM UTCask a plural
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2021-05-28 at 11:52 PM UTC
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2021-05-28 at 11:53 PM UTC
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2021-05-29 at 12:11 AM UTC
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2021-05-29 at 12:43 AM UTCPsychomanthis burnt down a house as a child with a girl in, and then he repressed the memory.
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2021-05-29 at 1:15 AM UTC
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2021-05-29 at 1:20 AM UTCIt also begs the question, if one suddenly has false memories, but they are clear and seem to be their own does that mean the person’s identity has changed? Because our identity is just being able to determine a string of memories that happened to us or that we were in.
The Sophie that was in a fire is an alleged pedo. But maybe the Sophie that uncovers the true memeory isn’t. -
2021-06-07 at 7:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Psychomanthis burnt down a house as a child with a girl in, and then he repressed the memory.
Originally posted by Incessant It also begs the question, if one suddenly has false memories, but they are clear and seem to be their own does that mean the person’s identity has changed? Because our identity is just being able to determine a string of memories that happened to us or that we were in.
The Sophie that was in a fire is an alleged pedo. But maybe the Sophie that uncovers the true memeory isn’t.
This is all starting to sound very Nightmare of Elm Street to me. -
2021-06-07 at 7:25 PM UTCThe human brain is known to fabricate memories and fill in gaps...this is a KNOWN.
In psychology, confabulation is a memory error defined as the production of fabricated, distorted, or misinterpreted memories about oneself or the world. ...
ETA: Again assuming the human brains exists and isn't just part of a simulation of course -
2021-06-07 at 7:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Yes. And so we arrive at 'Cogito ergo sum'. If you wanna believe you're a Boltzman Brain running elaborate simulations on yourself be my guest. But that proposition is not more 'apparently mostly true' than: I am me, you are you, we have imperfect knowledge but we can agree on a reality that seems mostly true most of the time.
Isn't Cogito ergo sum a term used as an argument against people who say this is all a virtual simulation (life and our existence) -
2021-06-07 at 8:02 PM UTC
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2021-06-07 at 8:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson ETA: Again assuming the human brains exists and isn't just part of a simulation of course
We could be in a simulation but we currently don't have the technology to create a life-like simulation ourselves, which means that we're either the original or the latest link in the chain.
Its about 50/50, but i'm inclined to believe we're the original, at least in this 3d space we call the universe. So if there will ever been any simulations, it will be because we or other inhabitants in this universe created it, not because we currently live in one.
There are things that are way more probable than the simulation theory.
Maybe the big bang was just an elder passing gas, and we're actually existing in the middle of a cosmic fart. -
2021-06-07 at 8:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by Xlite We could be in a simulation but we currently don't have the technology to create a life-like simulation ourselves, which means that we're either the original or the latest link in the chain.
Programmed thinking...the ones running the simulation might not even be what we consider "human"...we might be nothing more than an ant farm to them...the ant farm goes about their business like they are number #1 in the terrarium and no clue it's a setup and they are being observed. -
2021-06-07 at 9:12 PM UTCI learned my lessons the hard way
Every scar I earned
I had to bleed
Inside the day yard
A system of controlled movement
Like a giant ant farm
Any time is long time
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2021-06-07 at 10:26 PM UTC
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2021-06-07 at 10:28 PM UTCWhat if every time you went to sleep you awoke as someone else, but didn't realize at all you were now someone else?
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2021-06-07 at 11:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Programmed thinking…the ones running the simulation might not even be what we consider "human"…we might be nothing more than an ant farm to them…the ant farm goes about their business like they are number #1 in the terrarium and no clue it's a setup and they are being observed.
I like to think of our known universe as more of a little kid's snow-globe sitting on their nightstand.