Originally posted by NARCassist
so who/what created the creator then?
Nobody, because time and space as we know it does not apply to this entity. That's why he said he is the beta and the omega, because he has no beginning and no end. We cannot fully grasp the concept of no beginning, because our brains have been conditioned to operate only within the confines of the vehicle of time itself. But there are also creatures out there who do have a beginning, but they are so "old" as to practically have no beginning. But again, these beings do not solely exist in the same state of reality we exist in. They are able to exist in multiple planes of reality, which include states in which time and space has no real meaning.
Originally posted by -SpectraL
Nobody, because time and space as we know it does not apply to this entity. That's why he said he is the beta and the omega, because he has no beginning and no end. We cannot fully grasp the concept of no beginning, because our brains have been conditioned to operate only within the confines of the vehicle of time itself. But there are also creatures out there who do have a beginning, but they are so "old" as to practically have no beginning. But again, these beings do not solely exist in the same state of reality we exist in. They are able to exist in multiple planes of reality, which include states in which time and space has no real meaning.
you've literally just given an explanation of something and in the middle of that explanation declared that you don't have the mental capacity to understand the concept of the explanation you're giving.
only you speccy, only you.
fucking quality
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That's a classic go-to. "Lean not on your own understanding." Basically if there's a question about God that can't be logically answered , just say that it's too complicated and you wouldn't get it anyway.
There is only one single entity, across the entire scope of all worlds, who has no beginning, and that is God. Everything else, and everyone else, including the bad and good aliens, came after, and were created by him.
Originally posted by mmQ
But but.. how can something come AFTER something that has no beginning? 😱
There are clues. Such as is found in the workings of quantum entanglement. A photon can be "transmitted" in such a way that zero time "elapses". At the exact moment the photon "leaves" its initial position, it "arrives" simultaneously at its destination. Einstein called it "spooky action at a distance". This gives us a clue into how a being can have no beginning. If time itself does not apply to the being, then beginning and end need have no real bearing on the being's existence. Every day, we are learning more and more about the construct of time itself, but since the workings involved defy all logic, rational thought and established science, the progress is quite slow.
Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump
The Holy books are all written by men, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. There are also Eastern religions which have a prophet like figure. I choose not to follow anything led by a human man I focus more on God itself and the world and universe around me.
Perhaps another prophet has/is yet to come? Rastafarianism and other new religions believe so.
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Jesus never wrote a book and certainly not the Bible. LOL.
i think we need to re-explore this something being so great it must have been created thing some more. to have created something great the creator must be greater. so whether the creator has no beginning, and whether he/it is omega, beta or papafuckinjohns, he must have been created by that logic. if not then you're admittting something great can exist without a creator. which means by your secondry contradicting logic the potential exists for the universe and our reality to exist sans creator. you can't just keep switching your logic to suit your answers from one moment to the next.
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even if there was a creator of some form. there is zero evidence that he demands obediance and worship. religions assume thats mutually exclusive. its possible a creator created as an experiment to see what would happen naturally.
Originally posted by RisiR
Jesus never wrote a book and certainly not the Bible. LOL.
actually he did... you're leniage of christianity is completely lacking i don't even think you know about the book of enoch, he helped write and edit the dead sea scrolls. jesus would spit in your eye if he knew how much of a tard you are riser
we could be the result of some alien race with technology that enables them to recreate their own big bang. we could be the result of their experiment. they're too busy jotting down notes and studying data to care about receiving our admiration, or wtf we think.
Imo, any variety of belief (in anything(!)) tends to lead to the death of intelligence, for if you have faith and/or assume certitude over the nature of your existence/reality, then you wouldn't have much to question or think about; leading to the absence of brain function, and therefore clinically dead by today's medical standards
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Originally posted by Dearth
Imo, any variety of belief (in anything(!)) tends to lead to the death of intelligence, for if you have faith and/or assume certitude over the nature of your existence/reality, then you wouldn't have much to question or think about; leading to the absence of brain function, and therefore clinically dead by today's medical standards
I would believe you but I'm afraid that might lead to the death of intelligence.
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