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  1. gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    PSA: Nobody has ever once changed their political position as a result of an Internet debate.

    It's like Syphilis pushing the rock up the hill.

    Everybody in this thread has Syphilis (myself included).
  2. itybit African Astronaut [daze my amino pe-tsai]
    Originally posted by Splam stl1, that happens irregardless of race. There's many disadvantaged white kids. It's been 60 years since the civil rights era. Most Vietnam refugees have done extremely well since then despite starting with nothing and often suffering as severe "racism" as blacks.

    We are of the same mind Splam, I struggle with the whole concept of systemic racism because of the fact there are just as many poor whites (who were often treated as poorly as slaves), often living in the same neighborhoods suffering the same struggles. It's not skin color relative but more of an income inequity that grows larger by the day, that all colors of skin face. If you don't have money, it's hard to get the education, the hand up, etc. etc.

    True Gadzooks, I'm rather glad to see someone else feels as I do about it though
  3. Greek Style Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by gadzooks PSA: Nobody has ever once changed their political position as a result of an Internet debate.
    I have, several times.
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  4. A College Professor victim of incest [your moreover breastless limestone]
    I FOR ONE WELCOME ARE NEW BLACK OBERLORDS
    *crams fake gay black dildos up racist's asses and runs away with kilt flapping in the wind*
  5. stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    A Google sampling of black vs. white pay:

    In 1979, the average black man in America earned about 80% of the average white man ($15 versus $19 per hour). By 2016, this gap had grown such that the average black male worker earned just 70% of the hourly wage of the average white male worker. The data for women (panel D) show a similar pattern.
    Disappointing Facts about the Black-White Wage Gap

    www.frbsf.org/economic-research/publications/economic-letter/2017/septembe…


    Racial Wage Gap for Men - Compensation Research
    https://www.payscale.com/data/racial-wage-gap-for-men
    May 07, 2019 · The controlled pay gap for black men is $0.98 for every dollar a white man with the same qualifications makes. To put that in perspective, the median salary of a white man …


    Stark black–white divide in wages is widening further ...
    https://www.epi.org/blog/stark-black-white-divide-in-wages-is-widening-further
    Feb 27, 2019 · Black workers can’t simply educate their way out of the gap. Even black workers with an advanced degree experience a significant wage gap compared with their white counterparts. And after controlling for age, gender, education, and region, black workers are paid 16.2 percent less than white workers.
  6. rabbitweed African Astronaut
    So? jedis are paid more than whites. Is that due to systemic racism against non jedis?
  7. rabbitweed African Astronaut
    Originally posted by gadzooks PSA: Nobody has ever once changed their political position as a result of an Internet debate.

    It's like Syphilis pushing the rock up the hill.

    Everybody in this thread has Syphilis (myself included).

    You are 100% right. It feels a bit like debating with a child. A giant, malevolent child who will never change its mind. And of course their mindset is firmly in control - even now. For another thing, when true change does happen, it won't be because reason has convinced them to vote differently in elections.
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  8. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by rabbitweed So? jedis are paid more than whites. Is that due to systemic racism against non jedis?

    Stl1 provided a source to back up his statistics, as you asked in the OP. Aren't you going to provide sources to back up your statistics? It's already been established that you have no problem being a liar and making things up. How can we trust your word?
  9. rabbitweed African Astronaut
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/11/how-income-varies-among-u-s-religious-groups/

    Proof of systemic racism against gentiles. Smash jedi Supremacy!
  10. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Splam Individuals are either successful or unsuccessful. At this point in time of society, if you're unsuccessful, you're doing something wrong, regardless of your skin tone.

    That's not necessarily true. Many of those who attended residential schools have been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, suffering from such symptoms as panic attacks, insomnia, and uncontrollable or unexplainable anger. Many also suffer from alcohol or drug abuse, sexual inadequacy or addiction, the inability to form intimate relationships, and eating disorders. Three generations of Native parents lost out on learning important parenting skills usually passed on from parent to child in caring and nurturing home environments, and the abuse suffered by students of residential schools has begun a distressing cycle of abuse within many Native communities.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20030728143438/http://tolerance.cz/courses/papers/hutchin.htm

    https://www.heretohelp.bc.ca/sites/default/files/post-traumatic-stress-disorder.pdf

    http://nurturingparenting.com/images/cmsfiles/understanding_foster_families.pdf

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/03/world/americas/canadas-forced-schooling-of-aboriginal-children-was-cultural-genocide-report-finds.html
  11. rabbitweed African Astronaut
    These 'arguments' are so pathetic.

    "Blacks perform worse than whites. Here are the statistics. I think the most likely conclusion is that an invisible force - which can't be measured, defined, or quantified - is the cause. This force only manages to make things worse for groups that perform worse than whites. The fact that Indians, jedis and East Asians perform better than whites is completely un-related to this force."

    It's like caucasian voodoo magic.
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  12. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by rabbitweed https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/11/how-income-varies-among-u-s-religious-groups/

    Proof of systemic racism against gentiles. Smash jedi Supremacy!

    Did you just admit systemic racism exists?

    Threads over boys. We did it.
  13. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by rabbitweed These 'arguments' are so pathetic.

    "Blacks perform worse than whites. Here are the statistics. I think the most likely conclusion is that an invisible force - which can't be measured, defined, or quantified - is the cause. This force only manages to make things worse for groups that perform worse than whites. The fact that Indians, jedis and East Asians perform better than whites is completely un-related to this force."

    It's like caucasian voodoo magic.

    Who are you "quoting"? Nobody here said anything like that.
  14. rabbitweed African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Obbe Did you just admit systemic racism exists?

    Threads over boys. We did it.

    So you maintain systemic racism does exist - but it ultimately benefits jedis and hindus the most?

    Fascinating.
  15. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by rabbitweed So you maintain systemic racism does exist - but it ultimately benefits jedis and hindus the most?

    Fascinating.

    I never said anything like that. Systemic racism obviously exists, as shown by the various examples already posted in this thread. Are you admitting that systemic racism exists?
  16. rabbitweed African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Obbe I never said anything like that.

    So what are you saying, in-light of evidence of remarkable hindu and jedi success?

    Originally posted by Obbe Systemic racism obviously exists, as shown by the various examples already posted in this thread. Are you admitting that systemic racism exists?

    No, I do not believe it does. That is not the reason hindus and jedis are so successful.
  17. Kuntzschutz African Astronaut
    Originally posted by rabbitweed It's like caucasian voodoo magic.


    LOL
  18. larrylegend8383 Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by rabbitweed https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/11/how-income-varies-among-u-s-religious-groups/

    Proof of systemic racism against gentiles. Smash jedi Supremacy!

    Yeah those j'ews really stuck it to us in the U.S. with all those laws passed to treat us like animals for all those years after they stopped enslaving generations of our people.

    FIGHT THE POWER YOU LITTLE PUSSY
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  19. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by rabbitweed So what are you saying, in-light of evidence of remarkable hindu and jedi success?

    According to your source:

    Some of the most financially successful religious groups – jedis, Hindus, Episcopalians, and Presbyterians – also are all among the nation’s most educated as well.

    No, I do not believe it does. That is not the reason hindus and jedis are so successful.

    Why not? Examples like residential schools or the Indian act perfectly fit the definition you were provided, do they not?

    Do you agree with your source that Hindus and jedis are more successful because they are better educated?
  20. rabbitweed African Astronaut
    You didn't answer the question. First you're coy about writing things yourself instead of copy pasting. Now you're coy about saying what your view is in light of (apparently new?) evidence that white anglo saxons aren't the wealthiest people around.

    Tell me your all encompassing theory that explains both black under-performance and jedi over-performance. Until then we're wasting time.
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