Originally posted by aldra
that is to say the FS is cool and I wish I had one, but it doesn't really seem like a practical choice
Look you never know when a kevlar-wearing rapist is going to sneak into your house at 2am. Being able to penetrate the rapist before you get penetrated is important.
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Originally posted by Lanny
The relation exists by fiat, because you set those conditions for receiving compensation. That makes you the psychopath because you could as easily improve someone else's condition without any need for asshole stabbing. Unlike children, where there's just no way to make a kid without them having to endure some level of negative utility. I'm sure if parents had some way to have children such that they'd never have to suffer most parents would elect to do that, but they don't, so it becomes _necessary_ to hazard suffering for a life worth living. It is not necessary to stab someone in the asshole in order to give them a billion dollars.
Wrong. Again, see medical interventions that carry risk of injury, you may injure someone but if it's actually necessary in order to deliver the intervention then we consider it permissible. What's not OK is saving someone's life and then hacking off a limb because hey, losing a limb is better than dying. The difference is whether or not you have agency in dealing the injury in the process of perusing that person's welfare.
Further, re: the gum case, there's a difference between legal systems and moral judgements. Yes the legal system will (or at least should, by its own principles) prosecute petty theft carried out by large scale philanthropists, not because it passes judgement on the total moral person of the philanthropist, but because uniformity of prosecution is necessary to the penal system being an effective deterrent to crime. Many people would agree that, be it via utility calculus or the tally of St. Peter, significant acts of good do ameliorate wrongdoing to some extent. There are other cases, e.g. theft of food to feed one's family, where nearly everyone would agree the outcome (family not starving) softens the severity of the crime. And again, agreement is broader there exactly because in such cases theft may be necessary to sustaining ones family.
Who is this directed at? I agreed with you a post or two ago that many lives are not worth living. There absolutely is a level of suffering at which point the potential rewards of life are simply not commensurate. The idea of yours I take issue with is that _any_ amount of suffering makes a life not worth living, or indicts parents as a category.
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Originally posted by Lanny
Poor analogy because there's no necessary relation between the billion dollars and the asshole stabbing.
Better analogy: medical intervention in the case where consent can't be obtained, e.g. delivering CPR to an unconscious person. Yes, there's risk of injury but the risk is _necessary_ for the intervention. Same with kids, it's not some arbitrary desire to inflict suffering on children that's justified by them potentially having a worthwhile life, it's that suffering is a necessary risk that bound up in the possibility of having a good life.
If you want to argue that most net effects of most children is negative then I'll agree with you. But it's disingenuous to completely ignore the potential positive outcomes, both for the given child and society at large, when considering if having kids is justified.
There's a necessary relation - you don't get the billion dollars if you don't get stabbed in the asshole. It is a transaction. The exact same kind of transaction used to justify childbirth - "oh, it'll be bad at times, but the good outweighs the bad so the suffering we're inflicting doesn't actually matter". If it's a bad analogy, it's a bad analogy because childbirth is possibly the only example of an act of cruelty which can be completely sublimed and washed clean from one's slate. Bad things have infinite value in all other transactions. For every other act of cruelty, every other negativity we inflict upon another, there is no amount of good which society accepts as completely absolving one of that cruelty. Steal a stick of gum and donate a billion dollars to charity? You still stole that gum. Create a being so it can suffer immeasurably and also possibly experience all the joys of life? WELL, you see, the joys of life completely justify whatever happens. If even 1% of that child's life is happy, it doesn't matter if you birthed a soul who will get nuggetized and raped for 40 years before having their throat slit.
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Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
A better analogy would be people who embrace depopulation, but would be the last ones to step up to volunteer to be depopulated.
An antinatalist clinging to life is less hypocritical than you imply. Being born is cruel in part specifically because you die (or possibly don't die - you could be immortal, but that's equally or more horrifying). Nobody wants to die. Nobody wants to have to worry about dying. And the only way to avoid existential crises pursuant to mortality? Not being born in the first place. Death is cruel, and death is a part of life. Anything you give life must necessarily die (or not, and that's arguably worse). Life is a catch 22, and 'making babies" is plucking souls from the aether and forcing that catch 22 upon them.
Trash. Horrible. Worst species. We are aware of this, and yet still cannot see far enough past our base animal instincts to avoid perpetuating this endless cycle of suffering.
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The very fabric of reality itself is crying out for a great leader. A conqueror who will gather the disaffected incels and chad trad preppers into a magnificent fighting force, to forge a new nation with a new destiny to manifest. Our NEET Rudolf von Goldenbaum will arise, and wielding the equivalent of a small nation's economy (in the form of diligently mined and hodl'd shitcoins/NFTs of rat anuses) he will lead the revolution. If I don't see the foundation of a new imperial dynasty within my lifetime, I will be shocked and disappointed.
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Maybe, but I doubt it. Part of me is open to the idea (not that it's really a possibility anymore) but I can barely take care of myself. I don't even have pets because I know it'd be horrible and unfair to them. Seeing my kid or my pet suffer because I'm fucked in the head seems like the opposite of happiness. Also for all you people who can breed... don't. Even if it'll 100% make you happy, I swear to fucking god... the next one of your fuckers who plucks a soul from the void and gives it form so it can deal with mortality for a bit just so you can feel a little happier...
Sick fucks.
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Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood
I am sore all over my body
feels like I got punched by nanobots in my sleep but there are no bruises anywhere on me. feels like I stood in a human sized microwave for 10 seconds and got a slight blister burn all over my skin and everything hurts
the fuck????
i may have punched you in my sleep i swear to god i probably did im so sorry
me while im asleep:
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Originally posted by Speedy Parker
This is easily the least practical firearm I own. It is a Heritage Rough Rider single action revolver with a 16 inch barrel which came with one cylinder chambered in .22 LR, and a second one chambered in .22 WMR. It is a "project" gun I bought just for fun.
That seems like a neat project would be cool to see it when it's done. Not sure how I feel about the picatinny, but I get why you might want it (even if you're sacrificing a lot of beauty just to make a gun that'll never really be practical... slightly less impractical).
Also are the picatinny and barrel bands 3D printed? Convenient! But... the aesthetic. 🤮
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