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2019-01-27 at 1:55 AM UTC in Pro life fucking up traffic in San Francisco?On one hand I like killing children, on the other hand I'm opposed to giving women a choice
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2019-01-27 at 1:49 AM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Sploo Needs AttentionJello...
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2019-01-27 at 1:48 AM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Sploo Needs AttentionHello!
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2019-01-26 at 9:36 PM UTC in Trump Wall vs Mexican LadderI'm going to destroy every racist with a single puncch.,
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2019-01-26 at 9:35 PM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Sploo Needs AttentionHoly shit, even Mel Gibson can't defeat Mel Gibson.
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2019-01-26 at 9:35 PM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Sploo Needs AttentionI am feeling suicidal urges
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2019-01-26 at 4:27 PM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Sploo Needs AttentionEntomologi
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2019-01-26 at 3:29 PM UTC in Trump Wall vs Mexican Ladder
Originally posted by CASPER My iPad just deleted all my shit, so abbreviated version.
1) In 2014, 42% were visa overstays. I can't find more current numbers, but I'd wager it's still not a "vast majority"
True, I just looked it up, I'd been hearing from a 68% figure being tossed around but I can't find it. But apparently the DHS only reports numbers for air and sea entries and not land entries.
Anyway, a shit fence wouldn't change anything and will be a completely worthless moneysink to the US.2) the wall doesn't generate money. It makes it slightly easier to keep out one of those who drain billions from health care and welfare systems each year. The fact that they pay 8 cents on a candy bar doesn't mean much. They can receive most benefits short of Social security. 60%+ of illegal households make use of these programs. So yes- I think the majority are walking around with SNAP cards. I don't think they're getting checks to go out and buy land rovers, but the fact remains that that's money going to them.
Already addressed this. Illegals contribute positively to our economy and pay money into social security and Medicaid that they will never avail, because its registered to some dead guy. Even if the fence is effective (it won't be), it will literally hurt the economy by working. On top of that they stimulate economic growth because theyre producing and consuming, and some American is profiting off their productivity.
Of course nobody will ever talk about how American business owners exploitatively hiring illegals is the real problem. -
2019-01-26 at 3:18 PM UTC in Trump Wall vs Mexican LadderWe don't need to use "smart technology" either. This entire endeavour is literally political capital generated out of thin air, by fearmongering to white people. Illegal immigration from Mexico is a total non-issue.
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2019-01-26 at 1:35 PM UTC in Anyone worried about the stealth gays?Make friends with an old man
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2019-01-26 at 11:42 AM UTC in Anyone worried about the stealth gays?By being a stealth pussy
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2019-01-26 at 11:01 AM UTC in Trump Wall vs Mexican Ladder
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2019-01-26 at 10:45 AM UTC in Trump Wall vs Mexican Ladder
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING IV: The Flower of Death and The Crystal of Life Anyway, the real damage is done by legal immigrants. They fuck up, steal and destroy everything whitey likes/built/worked for.
1. Nobody is typing those links in by hand to check the references.
2. I don't value data interpretion by a dogshit looking MSPaint /Pol/ image.The wall is just a symbol, and I think everyone gets that - no one is genuinely concerned about whitey spending $5 billion of his own money on some wall, much less ecological impact, or even the poor brown people.
If they were they'd say something about the $38 billion America gives to Israel for no good reason every year.
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/senate-passes-bill-to-enshrine-military-aid-package-to-israel-into-law-1.6340748
Well America is like Prince's ex record label, in that we aren't going to pay for the symbol. -
2019-01-26 at 10:36 AM UTC in Trump Wall vs Mexican Ladder
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2019-01-26 at 10:30 AM UTC in Trump Wall vs Mexican Ladder
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2019-01-26 at 10:18 AM UTC in Trump Wall vs Mexican Ladder
Originally posted by CASPER I'm not reading 3 extra pages my bad.
1) A wall is a cheap partial solution.
To what?
America has a net outflow of Mexican immigrants and the vast majority of illegals that exist in America are here on overstayed visas, i.e. they legally came here through the border, then stayed. The wall isn't going to do jack shit.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/12/03/what-we-know-about-illegal-immigration-from-mexico/If a wall reduces illegal immigration by 20%, it'll have paid for itself in one years time.
How will the wall magically generate money?
You understand that illegals pay sales taxes, gas taxes (if they have a car), property taxes that are built into whatever their living situation is, and aren't able to claim deductions, right? They'll also use expired SSNs or ITpID to sign up for jobs and generate payroll taxes, but (obviously) they can't claim those social security benefits.
The wall will also need to be maintained and staffed. It will be a constant drain on our economy while harming it and solving zero problems, purely because you are upset by brownies.2) when America strongly encouraged immigration, it was LEGAL immigration during industrialization, fed through one of our ports of entry.
Completely irrelevant.3) when all those people came, there was no social safety net. You lived it does by your own wits. There was no welfare. Each year we spend between 80 and 115 billion dollars in welfare for illegal immigrants.
Lol do you think there are vast majorities of illegal Mexicans walking around with Social Security benefits and SNAP cards?
Illegal immigrants are net positive contributors to our tax base. They also have less than 1% rate of welfare use. So no, their welfare burden is literally almost totally negligible.
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/10/10/2018-21106/inadmissibility-on-public-charge-groundsSympathy is cool, but not everyone in the world has the RIGHT to a life here…no more than I have a right to go to the UK and get free housing, food, medical care, education,etc. We can't feed and clothe and house the whole world. Most are economic migrants. And that's not mentioning the big one, which is….
Who gives a fuck about sympathy or rights? Immigrants (including illegals) are a major net positive to the economy, this is not a debated fact in economics. The create economic growth and increase our tax base, regardless of the fact that you are unaware of it.
On top of that, the fence isn't going to do jack dick to stop anything and it's just going to be a drain on resources.4) Mexico is the corrupt shithole it is, purely because the exchange of guns and drugs is so incredibly easy.Most comes via trucks and shit, but plenty is brought in foot as well.
A vast majority of it is brought over on trucks and shit, through the border checkpoints. Again, the fence would be a completely retarded response to this problem.
And... It sounds like they are just supplying demand in the US. That's really what the problem is. -
2019-01-26 at 3:04 AM UTC in Trump Wall vs Mexican LadderAnyone in support of the wall can kill themselves
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2019-01-26 at 2:18 AM UTC in Trump Wall vs Mexican Ladder
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2019-01-26 at 12:02 AM UTC in quitting the internet
Originally posted by Lanny I don't think it would be that hard to get by without internet. Like I'd need to go buy some maps and a phone book and find some new hobbies but beyond that I don't see any major issues with it. We have the same anatomy and largely the same social organization as our ancestors who got by just fine without telescreens in their pockets 24/7. Our slavery to the machine is of our own invention, an addiction to its pale comforts, very real but immaterial.
Lol this nigga thinks he can live without memes. -
2019-01-26 at 12 AM UTC in Trump Wall vs Mexican LadderPELOSI'D
