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2021-08-15 at 11:38 AM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Get off that bus editionman gets stabbed and robbed on livestream by negroes
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2021-08-15 at 11:37 AM UTC in THE MAGA PARTY!,,, the GOP is dead, republicans are going down with the dems,, get ready for THE MAGA PARTY lefty's
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2021-08-15 at 11:23 AM UTC in THE MAGA PARTY!,,, the GOP is dead, republicans are going down with the dems,, get ready for THE MAGA PARTY lefty's
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2021-08-15 at 9:22 AM UTC in Why exactly are shitlibs such sickening, amoral scum?
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2021-08-15 at 9:20 AM UTC in Im being arrested for child pornography by apdthey are all dead
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2021-08-15 at 9:18 AM UTC in TRUMP TAKING BACK THE WHITE HOUSE TODAY AUGUST 13TH 2021!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2021-08-15 at 8:47 AM UTC in Why exactly are shitlibs such sickening, amoral scum?
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2021-08-15 at 8:39 AM UTC in Im being arrested for child pornography by apdhes dead
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2021-08-15 at 8:39 AM UTC in I get told Fuck You a loty
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2021-08-15 at 8:22 AM UTC in STICK IT, Damn It!
Originally posted by stl1 Making
Anti-vaxxers
Go
And pay for their own medical expenses
Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills, employer mandates
Ken Alltucker, USA TODAY
Communities with high rates of unvaccinated residents have been hit especially hard by the Delta variant, the unvaccinated representing the overwhelming majority of hospitalized patients.
People who choose not to get vaccinated against the coronavirus face greater odds of getting seriously ill and hospitalized – a decision that could risk not just their health, but their finances as employers mandate vaccination and insurance companies look at ways to pass on the costs of treatment.
More than 90% of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 are unvaccinated. And because 41% of eligible Americans have not yet been fully immunized against the virus, some are pushing a new tactic – making the unvaccinated pay a larger share of their medical bills.
Advocates of the pocketbook approach say tens of millions of Americans who refuse vaccination make it riskier for everyone else, including kids who are not old enough to get vaccinated and have filled hospitals in some states. Taxpayers are on the hook for $178 billion in federal funds allocated to hospitals and health-care providers. Insurance premiums could rise across the board.
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"There's a very clear line we can draw between (refusing) vaccination and getting COVID severe enough to put you in the hospital," said Jonathan Meer, an economics professor at Texas A&M University.
"The unvaccinated are essentially asking for a handout, a subsidy for their stance, and that’s cheap talk. Standing up for your beliefs means being willing to take the consequences of them," he said.
Some health insurers already are sharing the financial pain with those sick enough to be hospitalized.
Mayor Bill de Blasio announced last week that proof of coronavirus vaccination will be required to attend indoor restaurants, gyms, and entertainment venues. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo also announced a vaccination mandate for state employees and patient-facing health care workers at state hospitals, with an option to get weekly testing. According to CDC data, New York City is now considered a "high" or "substantial" COVID transmission area.
A Kaiser Family Foundation survey last November found that 88% of people had health insurance plans that shielded COVID-19 patients from copayments, coinsurance or annual deductibles that might require families to spend $2,800 or more before coverage kicks in.
Now that vaccines are free and available to all Americans 12 and older, insurers have scaled back those waivers.
Insurers eliminated pandemic perk
Major insurers such as Aetna, Anthem Blue Cross and UnitedHealth Group discontinued fee waivers as vaccines became widely available, as first reported by Kaiser Health News. Humana still covers out-of-pocket costs for older adults on its Medicare plan, but the insurer does not shield out-of-pocket costs for those covered by employer-sponsored plans.
Experts say patients hospitalized with COVID-19 could face significant bills as a result –and those patients are mainly the unvaccinated. Immunized people rarely are hospitalized with breakthrough infections, according to a Kaiser Family Foundation analysis of state and federal data.
"Now you probably will have to pay a lot of money if you get hospitalized," said Cynthia Cox, a vice president and director for the Kaiser Family Foundation's program on the Affordable Care Act. "That’s a very direct cost to people because of their lack of vaccination."
Still, some doubt the prospect of high medical bills will persuade many vaccine resisters to get immunized.
"The person who is holding out against the vaccine doesn’t have the same risk-benefit calculation as someone who gets the vaccine," said Erin Fuse Brown, director of the Center for Law, Health & Society at Georgia State College of Law. "They think the chances they are seriously going to be affected by COVID are pretty small to begin with."
Insurance surcharges for the unvaccinated?
Under the Affordable Care Act, health insurers that pay the bulk of hospital bills are not allowed to charge higher premiums for people who are sick or have a chronic health condition.
But insurers are allowed to charge more for smokers and tobacco users. Employers routinely offer premium discounts or incentives for nonsmokers or for those who meet wellness goals such as undergoing a physical exam.
"People have looked at those wellness plans as being a way insurers may be able to either reward people for getting vaccinated or penalize people for not getting vaccinated," Cox said.
So far, employers have been slow to offer incentives to encourage workers to get vaccinated. Of more than 300 employers surveyed by Mercer in July and August, only 10% said they offered a financial incentive.
It may take time for companies to use those wellness plans to push employees to get vaccinated, Cox said.
Companies turn to 'no jab, no job' policies
The unvaccinated are facing increased pressure from employers to get immunized or submit to frequent testing.
Wednesday, California Gov. Gavin Newsom said all California teachers and school employees must be vaccinated or undergo regular testing. California, New York City and Washington, D.C., have announced that public employees must get vaccinated, or they must wear masks and submit to weekly testing.
Several private employers, including Tyson Foods and United Airlines, have announced vaccine mandates. The National Football League has pressured players to get vaccinated, saying teams will be forced to forfeit games and paychecks in the event of an outbreak among unvaccinated players.
Tyson Foods requires all of its U.S. employees to get vaccinated against COVID-19.© Melissa Melvin, AP Tyson Foods team members receive COVID-19 vaccines Feb. 2 from health officials in Wilkesboro, N.C. Tyson Foods requires all of its U.S. employees to get vaccinated against COVID-19.
Nearly 14% of U.S. employers now require staff to be vaccinated in order to work at a company site, Mercer said. That's a dramatic shift from May, when fewer than 1% were mandating vaccinations, and only 8% said they would consider it.
Even more employers will likely mandate vaccinations once the Food and Drug Administration moves beyond emergency use authorization to full approval and licensing of the vaccines, said Dr. Art Caplan, head of the division of medical ethics at NYU Grossman School of Medicine.
The "no jab, no job" policy likely will convince more employees to get immunized rather than lose income or face the prospect of expensive medical bills, Caplan said.
"A lot of people who are hesitant, or resisters, say, 'You can’t make me vaccinate,'" Caplan said. "The problem is, they live in a very capitalistic society which says, 'I don’t have to hire you if you don’t do what I want for safety.'"
Those who choose tests over vaccines could pay, too
Beyond the prospect of medical bills and job loss, the unvaccinated might face more scrutiny when applying for life or disability insurance. People who apply for such coverage often need to undergo physical exams or answer detailed questions about their health, including vaccination status, Caplan said.
"That’s where you can expect to see penalties for non-vaccinators," Caplan said.
Fuse Brown said those who choose to meet employer mandates by getting tested periodically may see big bills, too.
Health insurance companies typically pay for coronavirus tests to diagnose or treat somebody if they have symptoms or had contact with an infected person. However, the federal Families First Coronavirus Response Act does not require insurers to pay for tests used to monitor workplace safety or for public health surveillance, said Kristine Grow, a spokeswoman for America's Health Insurance Plans, which represents commercial health insurers.
Fuse Brown said the cost of weekly tests "could add up fast" if an employer passes the bill to workers who choose not to vaccinate.
"Financially," Fuse Brown said, "that’s a bigger immediate cost that I think could change minds."
IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME ! ! !
Make the
Assholes have to
Go
And dig into their wallets for their obstinance and selfishness
close the borders next time faggot
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood Yesterday at 1am
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2021-08-15 at 8:19 AM UTC in THE MAGA PARTY!,,, the GOP is dead, republicans are going down with the dems,, get ready for THE MAGA PARTY lefty's
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2021-08-15 at 8:19 AM UTC in Afghanistan collapsing to Taliban, globalists leaving Kabul like Saigon
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2021-08-15 at 8:18 AM UTC in The Retarded Thread: Get off that bus editionantone who isnt vaccine by this point is a vaccine
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2021-08-15 at 8:16 AM UTC in Anybody who isn't vaccinated by this point is fucking retarded.I hjad chicken pox when I was a kid, leaf me alone
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2021-08-15 at 8:13 AM UTC in what's the last thing you bought?i boiught cocaine
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2021-08-15 at 8:12 AM UTC in Women's vaginas get tighter if they're being rapedyes old people have the same response so idk why people are upset that chris chan raped his mom if her pussy got wert that means she likes it same with.
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2021-08-15 at 2:42 AM UTC in I have nothing to do :(
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2021-08-15 at 2:41 AM UTC in I'm so stonedme too :)
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2021-08-15 at 12:34 AM UTC in reality control
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2021-08-15 at 12:33 AM UTC in How are you feeling at the moment..horny but not like UHHH UHHH I WANN A FUCK horny but more like a tired hungry bored RUB NUH DICK AND BUSS AND HAVE A NAP kinda horny