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  1. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by aldra there was also consensus that disease was the result of humors or demon possession.

    Right now you have a limited amount of evidence to draw your conclusions from. What is the evidence telling you?
  2. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by aldra you can't answer the question of how we can know how much humans have affected the climate without knowing what the climate would've been without human interference? I understand.

    While there's inherent uncertainty in their methods, the combination approaches they use provide a robust understanding of human impact on the climate. The consensus in the scientific community is that human activities have undoubtedly played a substantial role in driving climate change over the past century.
  3. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by aldra I don't really want to get into it on the 137th page, but just on anthropomorphic climate change in general - how old is the Earth vs. how far back can we accurately measure climate data, such as general temperatures, gas composition, sun intensity, cloud density etc.?

    how can we possibly presume to know what baseline climate change would be with so little data, and if we don't know what the baseline is, how can we presume to know how much of a difference human activity has deviated from it?

    I'm fully in favour of moving toward more efficient and less wasteful practices, but climate-related doomsday scenarios have come and gone just as often as religious ones. in the longer-term it's a problem, but we have more pressing problems in the short and medium term.

    Oh, so you just generally disagree with the idea based on your assumptions and don't actually have anything specifically false you can point to? I understand.
  4. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Science is not a fact it is an inquiry

    The above statement does not conflict with anything I have ever posted in this thread.
  5. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by aldra science is a method, not an authority for you to appeal to

    I think you're one of the smartest people on this website, and I cannot believe you don't accept reality. Which of the facts I've posted are you contesting?
  6. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Facts according to you. But we have already determined you don't know the difference between data and facts.

    Facts according to science. My opinion has nothing to do with what is and isn't a fact.
  7. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    What Do Climate Scientists Tell Their Kids about the Future?

    Scientists have been trying to warn everyone about this problem for many, many years. If we really started trying to fix it 30 or 40 years ago, it would be easier to fix, and some of the bad stuff could be stopped. But we didn’t, and here’s one big reason why. Some businesses, such as those who make and sell the energy, would not make as much money if we stopped using their energy. So those businesses hired people who are really good at arguing and tried to confuse people—especially the ones who make decisions. They said things like “Global warming isn’t really happening,” “The scientists are lying” or “Maybe it’s happening but not because people are burning fossil fuels.” Unfortunately, those tricks have been working on many people.
  8. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker 137 pages of meaningless unproven bullshit.

    You haven't shown how anything is meaningless bullshit. Ignoring the news doesn't make it meaningless bullshit. The facts I have posted don't stop being reality just because you don't like it.
  9. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Data can be manipulated to support , not prove but just support, almost anything you want it to.

    Data ≠ Proof

    What makes you think I need to be told this?
  10. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Non-independent sources.

    Data doesn't become bullshit just because you don't like what it means or who is reporting it.
  11. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Chios Honey pepe

  12. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ underestimating = not buying the bullshit

    What's bullshit?
  13. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    I'm gonna get this.
  14. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Americans experience a false social reality by underestimating popular climate policy support by nearly half

    Specifically, 80–90% of Americans underestimate the prevalence of support for major climate change mitigation policies and climate concern. While 66–80% Americans support these policies, Americans estimate the prevalence to only be between 37–43% on average. Thus, supporters of climate policies outnumber opponents two to one, while Americans falsely perceive nearly the opposite to be true.
  15. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Storms only started happening recently.

    Extreme weather events are becoming more common thanks to climate change, and "they're affecting every corner of the world"
  16. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Central Greece flooded. It rained the amount of the average annual precipitation, overnight

    Storm Daniel has already caused significant problems in central Greece, while it is expected to affect most of the mainland, including Attica, by the afternoon.
  17. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    World on Fire: 2023 is Canada's worst wildfire season on record — and it's not over yet

    Climate change more than doubled the likelihood of extreme fire weather conditions in Eastern Canada, according to a study by World Weather Attribution.
  18. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Home insurers cut natural disasters from policies as climate risks grow

    At least five large U.S. property insurers — including Allstate, American Family, Nationwide, Erie Insurance Group and Berkshire Hathaway — have told regulators that extreme weather patterns caused by climate change have led them to stop writing coverages in some regions, exclude protections from various weather events and raise monthly premiums and deductibles.
  19. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    https://twitter.com/Imposter_Edits/status/1698184072625861053?s=20
  20. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Oil is a renewable resource. They don't want you to know that.

    Originally posted by Obbe Me: Post facts, studies, news. Accepts reality.

    You: Post make believe, jokes, and opinions nobody cares about. Rejects reality.
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