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Alan What?
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It would be great to discuss these topics with someone willing and able to communicate their opinions clearly. Bill Krozby isn't that kind of person though.
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Alan What?
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Yeah, as was discussed above, I think mathematics is or is like a language in that while it can be used to describe basically anything it's not the same as the thing itself. I do think math could be used to express or describe basically every aspect of reality, but I agree that's not the same as actually experiencing reality consciously the way (I presume) you and I do. It's like how we can use English to describe a sexual experience for example, but that is not the same as actually having that sexual experience. I also think Mathematics could be used to describe the same experience although it would be beyond my capabilities to comprehend, and again, it would not be the same as conscious experience itself. I agree that colours like red are not just some number representing a wavelength of light but is a word used to describe an actual experience, as are all words really.
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Alan What?
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Ultimately nothing matters so there is no reason not to, except life can be awesome if you make it awesome so you would be missing out on that. There's a lot you can't do when you're dead. Here's a thought, instead of asking us if you should or shouldn't kill yourself why don't you ask yourself how you could make your life a life worth living?
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Alan What?
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[greentext]>"My theory has more proof than your theory"[/greentext] [greentext]>Uses my theory to prove his[/greentext] [greentext]>Thinks this is solid logic.[/greentext]
I never claimed multiverse was true I simply noted that it may be some individuals understanding of dimensionality. It is also stupid to say that "because if you believe in a multiverse, you would be open to the idea of a flat earth." This is pretty fucking stupid because if you believe in a multiverse you would indeed be open to the idea of a flat earth, or a universe where the natural formation of matter is a flat square rather than spherical. You would also be open to the idea that there is a universe entirely made of ants, a universe where you are sploo, a universe where totse never ended, a universe that is just a basket of fruit in a large white room. Furthermore you would believe all variations of any possible potentiality exist somewhere in some way. For me personally this is a bit far fetched and while things like multiverse and string theory have elegant and beautiful proofs, there are always holes and flaws in them.
But more importantly if you believe in multiverse theory that doesnt mean that you must believe that the earth is flat in this universe. All it indicates is that you could imagine a reality in which the earth is flat. Further there is all the evidene in the world to say that the earth is spherical from NASA to standing on the beach and looking at a boat cross the horizon. In all our years of sailing and exploring, do you not find it strange that no one has yet found the edge? Further, is it not rectifiable with your theory that one can board a plane look out the window and see the curvature of the earth or send a baloon up with a camera and see the same at a high enough altitude?
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Alan What?
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What do any of you dipshits even think "there are infinite dimensions" would even mean anyway?
Some people would mean something like "alternate realities", some people would mean something like "dimensions other than length, width, height and time" and some people would probably mean something else all together, so clarification on what the OP is asking about would help this conversation out a lot.
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Alan What?
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I don't think it's unreasonable to consider the possibility that something can go on forever. For example if someone accepts casualty than something must have caused the universe, and something must have caused that, and so on and so forth. It doesn't appear that a starting point is really possible if everything is caused by something before it. So is it really unreasonable to consider that there is no starting point?
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Alan What?
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You are the one-dimensional man:
In literature, as in life, we often see growth, change, and internal conflict carried out in a single character. The term one-dimensional character in a book review refers to a character who lacks depth and who never seems to learn or grow. If a character is one-dimensional, he or she does not demonstrate a sense of learning in the course of a story. Authors may use such a character to highlight a certain trait; usually an undesirable one.
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Alan What?
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Actually I'm not, I praise people like sploo, roshambo and opulus for their art. And trust me I'm not jealous of your creativity, you don't even make threads, all you do is talk out of your asshole.
All I'm saying here is that malice usually never post threads, and went out of his to make a thread about me out of butt hurt
Pretty sure it was a joke Bill Krozby, you know, to be funny? Why do you think he's butthurt?
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Alan What?
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The difference between science and religion is the difference between the quantified equations of mathematics and the unquantifiable equations of metaphor. Those who cannot focus their mental scope with sufficient precision to count must guesstimate relationships by comparing superficial attributes to derive meanings from their experiences. The errors of both science and religion are produced by logical deductions made from inherently faulty language, but the errors cannot be perceived by people who mistake their words for real things and their language for a real map. The nemesis of abstraction is that the symbol becomes the reality, and the individual differences in the real world are occulted behind the Veils of Maja. As the focus of the mind shifts from the immediately tangible world to verbal concepts, the mind becomes separated from the body and both lose their health. Paradise is a myth about a preverbal Consciousness, before men created words and subsequently mistook the symbol (idol) for reality (God); the Fall of Man and his Expulsion is the consequence of worshipping verbally fashioned images. Philosophers pretend to lead us back to reality on ways paved with more words of higher abstraction, like devils promising to lead us to Heaven. If the devil is the Father of Lies, words are surely the Mother. Philosophic disputes are word wars; those who live by their words also die by their words. Words are ultraspacial structures created by abstracting common features of significance while ignoring unique features. Words amplify similarities and eliminate differences by wave interference. Words are the product of fusing all the unique images of several structures into an ultraspacial gestalt. A gestalt exists as an extension of its material manifestations in the form of a trajectory through time and space; a mental concept extends through no fewer than four dimensions. The minds comprehends the dimensions of time; this is why intelligence is identified with the sense of time. Abstract verbal concepts are understood only as they can be comprehended within the temporal dimensions of one's mind; a mind is perceived to grow to the extent that it perceives precedents and consequences. Athena is merely the god of intellect; the ruler of consciousness is Kronus, the Overlord of Time and Change. Conscious mind is a creation of words. Experiments have found that people lacking the words to describe subtle colours are also unable to distinguish fine differences in hues, but as soon as they are given the words to define the differences between crimson, scarlet, and vermilion, for example, they no longer see all reds as red. Poets expand the common Consciousness by giving new meanings to old words and by coining new words.
