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Posts by Obbe

  1. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by -mal- Hello! Please tell me more about yourself and your memories of Totse.

    I don't remember anything specific really, just that I thought it was something really cool and mind opening when I was 13, like stumbling upon some hidden community of keepers of secret knowledge and that it was a formative experience, I know I wouldn't be the same person if I never found it.
  2. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Zanick So if I eat humans but I'm thankful for their sacrifice, I shouldn't incur karmic punishment?

    I don't know, isn't all that stuff made up?
  3. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Hello!
  4. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by aldra I've never seen any good evidence for 'consciousness' in plants

    sure they'll grow toward sunlight or away from harm but that only indicates very low order logic, direct response to stimuli

    I made a thread about plant intelligence/consciousness full of links to actual research on the topic, plus a documentary if you're interested in it.
  5. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Just about to rip the bong and then play some Links Awakening on my gameboy colour while I wait for my fake Chinese gameboys to arrive in the mail. Probably have to wait a few more weeks before I can review them.
  6. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Saw this posted on a similar topic on Reddit, thought I should share it here:

    Just because plants have lower awareness than animals doesn't mean plants have no consciousness at all and do not suffer when killed for food.

    Since all life is sacred (plant and animal), spiritually it doesn't matter what life forms we consume in order to survive and thrive in the physical universe. Spiritually what matters is the manner in which we take those lives.

    I think the Native American Indians are a good spiritual example to follow for this. Before they ate anything, they gave thanks to the spirit of that animal:

    "Thank-you for giving your life so that I may live."

    Doing so makes eating any life form (plant or animal) a karma-less act. So veganism doesn't promote spiritual awakening any more than eating meat does. It's the attitude that counts.
  7. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Zanick Obbe, it wasn't as bad as I said there, I'm sorry. I think we have different styles of communication and I didn't handle that well, also I was in a salty mood that day.

    It's cool.
  8. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Zanick … Obbe already made this thread and brought up the subject for several pages in my other thread.

    No I didn't.

    I made a thread about plant intelligence, but that thread had nothing to do with morality or eating plants.

    I also made reference to plant intelligence in your thread about two or maybe 3 times but I also stopped talking about it as soon as you asked me to.
  9. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Daily Did you really think you could sneak your degeneracy into a question of demography and somebody with an iq of one and a half standard deviations above the average wouldn't notice

    Incels have always existed, it's nothing new. There's probably more of them now because women have been granted absolute control over their reproduction. Why would they go near Obbe

    In sexual economics, sperm is cheap (a guy can fuck and cum inside hundreds of women in 9 months) while eggs are expensive (a woman will shit out just one or two kids and rarely more than that in 9 months). Since it's such a big investment for women, they have to be choosy. Males have always been biologically disposable in the evolutionary timeline

    We are simply witnessing these disposable organisms communicate their anxiety, shame, resentment and depression, sometimes through forums, sometimes through vlogs, sometimes through shootings

    Why do you think I'm an incel?
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  11. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    I imagine it's mostly subconscious drives and instincts and processes beyond my control.
  12. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Zanick That's adorable! Do you think it's because he likes to be around you, or is he just very nosy?

    Both. He also is very interested in the water. He doesn't seem to understand how the drain works.
  13. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Now I want to get a metal pipe again.
  14. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    My cat keeps going in the shower with me. I have to leave the door open because he will tear up the carpet outside the bathroom door if I don't.
  15. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Malice I had my first proper edible yesterday. It was a lot nicer, especially the body high, but I ended up falling asleep. Definitely more psychedelic, but I think it was centered around death and the nature of reality/life.

    I feel different today, as if it normalized my brain activity to a large extent and I just feel more normal.

    And the world is still my idea of hell.

    Picked to my pure d-meth and will begin trialing low doses starting tomorrow. I don’t expect it to work, though.

    It feels odd to know you’re probably going, yet to have fully resigned to yourself. No desire for salvation, nothing left you want to do, no fear.

    And so number three is Nirvana, the goal of Buddhism; it's the state of liberation corresponding to what the Hindus call moksha. The word means 'blow out,' and it comes from the root 'nir vritti.' Now some people think that what it means is blowing out the flame of desire. I don't believe this. I believe that it means 'breathe out,' rather than 'blow out,' because if you try to hold your breath, and in Indian thought, breath--prana--is the life principle. If you try to hold on to life, you lose it. You can't hold your breath and stay alive; it becomes extremely uncomfortable to hold onto your breath.

    And so in exactly the same way, it becomes extremely uncomfortable to spend all your time holding on to your life. What is the point of surviving, going on living, when it's a drag? But you see that's what people do. They spend enormous efforts on maintaining a certain standard of living which is a great deal of trouble. You know, you get a nice house in the suburbs, and the first thing you do is you plant a lawn. You've gotta get out and mow the damn thing all the time, and you buy expensive this-that and soon you're all involved in mortgages, and instead of being able to walk out into the garden and enjoy, you sit at your desk and look at your books, filling out this and that and the other and paying bills and answering letters. What a lot of rot! But you see, that is holding onto life. So, translated into colloquial American, nirvana is 'whew!' Because if you let your breath go, it'll come back. So nirvana is not annihilation, it's not disappearance into a sort of undifferentiated void. Nirvana is the state of being let go. It is a state of consciousness, a state of being, here and now in this life.
  16. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by TT.x1c i don't think matters existence needs any individual to interpret it into being

    I think you're probably right but for all we know all matter is just information.
  17. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Space Quest 4? Kings Quest 5?
  18. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by TT.x1c what is the point where information turns into matter

    one such point is dna

    another is chemical bonds

    us chemists explore this space and become alchemists

    Isn't "matter" just the way "you" are interpreting information? Kinda like watching a video, being told it's taking place in another room. But you don't know if the stuff happening on the video is live, an old recording, or maybe a clever simulation of something that isn't really anywhere.
  19. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    ...his own experience of awakening occured after seven years of attempts to study with the various yogis of the time, all of whom used the method of extreme asceticism, fasting, doing all sort of exercises, lying on beds of nails, sleeping on broken rocks, any kind of thing to break down egocentricity, to become unselfish, to become detached, to exterminate desire for life. Buddha found out all that was futile; that was not The Way. And one day he broke his ascetic discipline and accepted a bowl of some kind of milk soup from a girl who was looking after cattle. And suddenly in this state of relaxation he went and sat down under a tree, and the burden lifted, so it goes. He saw, completely, that what he had been doing was on the wrong track. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. And no amount of effort will make a person who believes himself to be an ego be really unselfish. So long as you think, and feel, that you are a someone contained in your bag of skin, and that's all, there is no way whatsoever of your behaving unselfishly. Oh yes, you can imitate unselfishness. You can go through all sorts of highly refined forms of selfishness, but you're still tied to the wheel of becoming by the golden chains of your good deeds, as the obviously bad people are tied to it by the iron chains of their misbehaviors.

    So, you know how people are when they become proud. They belong to some kind of a church group, or whatever group, and say 'Of course we're the ones who have the truth. We're the in-group, we're the elect, and everyone else outside.' It is really off the track. But then comes along someone who one-ups THEM, by saying 'Well, in our circles, we're very tolerant. We accept all religions and all ways as leading to The One.' But what they're doing is they're playing the game called 'We're More Tolerant Than You Are.' And in this way the egocentric being is always in his own trap, so it goes.

    Buddha saw that all his yoga exercises and ascetic disciplines had just been ways of trying to get himself out of the trap in order to save his own skin, in order to find peace for himself. And he realized that that is an impossible thing to do, because the motivation ruins the project. He found out that there was no trap to get out of except himself. Trap and trapped are one and when you understand that there isn't any trap left.

    As a result of this experience, he formulated the method. The method is dialectic. The problem proposed is 'I don't want to suffer, and I want to find someone or something that can cure me of suffering.' That's the problem. Now if there's a person who solves the problem, a buddha, people come to him and say 'Master, how do we get out of this problem?'

    There isn't anything at all in the whole world, in the material world, in the psychic world, in the spiritual world, there is nothing you can catch hold of and hang on to for safely. Nothing. Not only is there nothing you can hang on to, there is no you to hang on to it. In other words, all clinging to life is an illusory hand grasping at smoke. If you can get that into your head and see that that is so, nobody needs to tell you that you ought not to grasp. Because you see you can't.

    The moralist is the person who tells people that they ought to be unselfish, when they still feel like egos, and his efforts are always and invariably futile. Because what happens is he simply sweeps the dust under the carpet, and it all comes back again somehow. But in this case, it involves a complete realization that this is the case. So that's what the teacher puts across.

    Next thing is the cause of suffering. The thirst. The desire. Better, perhaps, is 'craving, clinging, grasping,' or even, to use our modern psychological word, 'blocking.' When somebody is blocked and dithers and hesitates and doesn't know what to do, he is in a sense attached, he's stuck. But a buddha can't be stuck, he cannot be phased. He always flows, just as water always flows. Even if you dam it, the water just keeps on getting higher and higher and higher until it flows over the dam. It's unstoppable.

    You suffer because you cling to the world and you don't recognize that there is nothing to grasp and not even anythi g which with you could grasp. So then try, if you can, not to grasp. This immediately poses a problem. Because the student who has started off this dialog with the buddha then makes various efforts to give up desire. Upon which he very rapidly discovers that he is desiring not to desire, and he takes that back to the teacher, who says 'Of course. You are desiring not to desire, and that's of course excessive. All I want you to do is to give up desiring as much as you can. Don't want to go beyond the point of which you're capable.' This is called the Middle Way. Not only is it the middle way between the extremes of ascetic discipline and pleasure seeking, but it's also the middle way in a very subtle sense. Don't desire to give up more desire than you can. And if you find that a problem, don't desire to be successful in giving up more desire than you can. You see what's happening? Every time he's returned to the middle way, he's moved out of an extreme situation.
  20. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    How about The Secret of Monkey Island, or LOOM?
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