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2018-11-19 at 11:36 PM UTC in Just legalized weed, ffsIt is legal.
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2018-11-19 at 7:39 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2018-11-19 at 7:14 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2018-11-19 at 4:05 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Lanny Typically utilitarians, myself included, will argue that being able to feel pain does imply moral considerably. I think the question "can a fetus feel pain" is biologically more complex than asking "does the fetus have nerve cells". It seems pretty easy to imagine biological systems with nerve cells without the ability to feel pain, e.g. those in which the central nervous system is not functional or sufficiently developed.
Also utilitarians are committed to the maximization of utility, meaning minimizing pain and maximizing pleasure in hedonic utilitarianism. That doesn't mean everything which causes pain is wrong, in the abortion scenario we can imagine that the disutility experienced by an unwanted pregnancy may well be greater than the amount of suffering implied by abortion and justified on those grounds. It does lead to the conclusion that there are some scenarios where abortion can't be justified but, unlike many utilitarians I've talked to, that's never really bothered me.
Do you think Malice was right about antinatalism? -
2018-11-19 at 4:07 AM UTC in what's your favorite drug and why is every other drug shittyBest drug is LSD.
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2018-11-19 at 12:09 AM UTC in KR0Z Dogs for the NES
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2018-11-18 at 8:23 PM UTC in Motivational Pictures Thread
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2018-11-18 at 8:14 PM UTC in Do You Guys Think Rust Was A Little Obsessed?I enjoyed arguing with Rust over God and spiritual things.
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2018-11-18 at 7:41 PM UTC in KR0Z Dogs for the NESC'mon make it for the NES so I can play it at work on the Odroid.
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2018-11-16 at 10:23 PM UTC in Predict the FutureFebruary 3rd 2019: Lanny is tested and found to be HIV positive.
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2018-11-14 at 2:54 AM UTC in Law threadEqual opportunity for all lifeforms.
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2018-11-12 at 5:50 PM UTC in should lanny stop pretending to be an important philosopher
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2018-11-11 at 2:15 PM UTC in should lanny stop pretending to be an important philosopher@Lanny yesterday I got "The myth of Sisyphus" and "Atlas Shruggged" I've never read anything by either author. Which books do you think I will like more? Which one should I read first? Do you like those authors?
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2018-11-10 at 10:40 PM UTC in Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will
Originally posted by PhD in Condom Mechanics I feel control of these words because they're a result of my intentionality. I have no problem with the idea that my intentionality is composed of non-intentional, deterministic subsystems. They're not categorically different. It's like saying my calculator didn't generate the graph I made on it.
When you make a mistake and do something you had no intention of doing you have exactly as much control over your actions as when your intentions work out the way you expect - but it doesn't feel like it. You feel responsible when you end up doing the things you expect yourself to do, when you behave and react in ways which are typical or characteristic of who you are. When you end up doing something unexpected or unintentional, it feels strange like you lost control. But in reality you never were in control, things just didn't happen the way you expected them to. That feeling of being in control, feeling responsible is an illusion based on your behavior matching your intentions. You agree that both your behaviour and your intentions are the result of complex chains of events which you have no influence over and which you did not intend. Therefore whether your actions match your intentions or whether they do not, they are not in your control. -
2018-11-10 at 6:33 PM UTC in Motivational Pictures Thread
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2018-11-10 at 2:54 PM UTC in Motivational Pictures Thread
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2018-11-10 at 1:39 PM UTC in Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will
Originally posted by PhD in Condom Mechanics Everybody acknowledged that. Nobody really "takes credit for" their heart beating either. They take credit for the things they take to be within their domain of control. There is no additional subject "self" to control it. You're basically just committing the homunculus fallacy, but for free will; there is no "double willing".
But there is no domain of control. You control the words you type in that post exactly as much as you control your beating heart, yet you feel responsible for the words. But if you were to make a spelling error while typing you would feel that you made a "mistake" even though you have no control over what your intention was. That feeling of being in control is illusory. -
2018-11-10 at 4:02 AM UTC in should lanny stop pretending to be an important philosopher
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2018-11-10 at 3:50 AM UTC in Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will
Originally posted by Mewsik All the answers lay in each and every one of us. Stop reading, stop watching videos and TV. Be silent, connect with other human beings who have not polluted their bodies with poison their entire lives, or surrendered them selves and their ability to listen to their own knowing in a serene and compassionately way … those who go inward and remember … truth!
This idiot is an alien. He has no connection with his soul .. the only thing that never dies. Well .. that once was true, souls are burning out at a rapid speed.
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2018-11-10 at 3:48 AM UTC in should lanny stop pretending to be an important philosopherPhilosophers pretend to lead us back to reality on ways paved with more words of higher abstraction, like devils promising to lead us to Heaven. If the devil is the Father of Lies, words are surely the Mother. Paradise is a myth about a preverbal Consciousness, before men created words and subsequently mistook the symbol (idol) for reality (God); the Fall of Man and his Expulsion is the consequence of worshipping verbally fashioned images. The nemesis of abstraction is that the symbol becomes the reality, and the individual differences in the real world are occulted behind the Veils of Maja.
