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2019-01-11 at 9:54 PM UTC in Unban infinityshock
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2019-01-11 at 9:46 PM UTC in Spic kills White Nerd Programmer with single punch over dogWhy was this person banned?
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2019-01-11 at 7:21 PM UTC in Zanick's "evil sister" here, AMA
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2019-01-11 at 7:20 PM UTC in Zanick's "evil sister" here, AMA
Originally posted by Zanick I'm here because I'm a good sister. Nobody is responsible for his retarded choices but him.
You're not "good", you just think you're better. Which actually makes you worse. What a terrible person you must be in real life if talking with you online is this tedious. Your head has been up your ass so long you love the smell of your own shit. Instead of helping your brother you just shit all over him. You've never helped him. You don't even like him. It's your fault he bought those drugs and your fault he lost his mind. You are horrible. -
2019-01-11 at 7:16 PM UTC in Zanick's "evil sister" here, AMA
Originally posted by Zanick I read DietPiano's (fucking stupid name) summary and I think it's moronic. You had one website of degenerates and it closed, so you made another, and another. You all need somewhere you can go to say stupid shit without consequences, and I'm guessing none of you are functional people.
You don't know anything about anyone here, look who's saying stupid shit without consequences now. -
2019-01-11 at 7:12 PM UTC in Zanick's "evil sister" here, AMA
Originally posted by Zanick He keeps a lot of secrets like this place and his drugs and they're all self-destructive for him, excuse me if I don't respect his stupid privacy and excuse me for being concerned.
Gee, I wonder why he doesn't like you. Maybe if you were a better sister he wouldn't have become a drug addicted recluse whose only friends are weird internet people. -
2019-01-11 at 7:04 PM UTC in Zanick's "evil sister" here, AMA
Originally posted by Zanick I just don't like him, we've never been close. He's very private and totally self-absorbed. I think he has an unhealthy relationship with the internet and I'm trying to understand why he's here. I don't get to see this side of him in real life. Also, I want to figure out if people here are where he gets his drugs. From what I've seen so far, I'm betting yes.
If you don't like him, why do you care about who he talks to online? Why do you care if he does drugs? If he is a private person, do you think he would appreciate your prying into his private life? Maybe that is why he thinks you are "abusive". -
2019-01-11 at 4:01 PM UTC in Zanick's "evil sister" here, AMAWho's sucked the most dicks, you or Zanick?
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2019-01-11 at 11:41 AM UTC in Black Mirror BandersnatchGet the 5 star ending.
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2019-01-10 at 11:51 PM UTC in Black Mirror Bandersnatch
Originally posted by SpaceCakes Oh it's a click to move on, film?
I never tried one of those before. that's even cooler. I seen all of the episodes up til about 5 months ago and havn't been watching any of the new ones.
is this the first Black Mirror to do this?
I always wanted to try one of those theater films where everyone gets a remote and depending on the audience, it would be the majority rule of outcome.
It's about freewill. -
2019-01-10 at 11:41 PM UTC in Black Mirror Bandersnatch
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2019-01-07 at 10:42 PM UTC in If you own a baseball cap you are trash and I disavow you
Originally posted by ScarletLetter https://www.urbandictionary
*TOP DEFINITION
daf =
dumb as fuck
*That bitch is daf, fo real.
Kinda like daft. -
2019-01-07 at 9:53 PM UTC in We are a specific mart of the universe
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2019-01-07 at 7:27 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Lanny Because "truth value" is the term you use when you want to talk about a proposition's status as true or false:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_value
Like if you guys didn't understand what that meant you should have just said so, it would save us some time.
I'm going to assume that's an answer in the positive.
So the question is why? We have a framework for physical investigation. We "imagine" it in some sense, but it basically deals with what we find in the world. Why could we not have a similar moral framework in which we go out into the world and discover moral truths empirically? What is it about moral propositions that you think there's no possible way we could find their justification out in the world when we can justify "imagined" ideas like electrons by looking at the world, even though we can never directly observe them?
I may never directly "see" an electron, but electrons have an objective effect on our reality. If two different people measure the electrical properties of a circuit they will observe the exact same objective measurements. If someone doesn't "accept" the electrical theory behind their measurements and does something wrong we can see how wrong they really are when their electrical system won't work the way they expect it to. Electricity isn't a matter of opinion.
Morality on the other hand is a matter of opinion. Morality is about things like good and bad which are not found anywhere outside of your imagination. There is no way to objectively measure the amount goodness or badness we imagine specific actions have. If everyone were to agree to share the same moral theory we would all imagine the same moral conclusions, but even if we did that wouldn't tell us anything about the real world. When two people with different moral frameworks reach two different moral conclusions about a specific action there is no way for us to measure who if either of them is objectively correct.
So the question now is why do you believe morality is not a matter of opinion? Why do you believe it is anything more than a figment of our imaginations? -
2019-01-05 at 12:47 AM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Lanny I tried but no dice.
Can you see it now?
Originally posted by Obbe That is my answer specific to the question you asked me: you have not demonstrated any moral system exists beyond imagination. Your moral conclusions might logically follow your moral framework, but your moral framework is something you are imagining and so your conclusions are only regarding your imagined framework and tell us nothing about reality. If you imagine all cows are moral agents, and if you imagine killing moral agents is always immoral, the logical conclusion of that is that you imagine killing cows is always immoral. This doesn't tell us anything about reality though, it only tells us the logical conclusion of imagining that cows are moral agents while also imagining that killing moral agents is always immoral.
That should answer your question. -
2019-01-04 at 10:42 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Lanny It's true, I haven't attempted to justify that any moral system exists beyond imagination yet, because I'd like to make sure we understand eachother when we talk about things like "moral systems", "moral obligations" and "moral facts" as the definitions of these terms will be very important any any justification of them I might give.
In particular, it seems like you've taken a position that moral statements are, by definition, mere statements of opinion. Is that the case?
You didn't ask any questions in the post I was responding to.
I think if you re-read the post you are responding to, you might find the answer to that question. -
2019-01-04 at 10:40 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by
^ Looks like he's not the only one, so why don't you just take your hypocritical fail-ass out of the thread, stop harassing and chasing users off the site, and then go fuck yourself?
The oversocialized man has feelings of inferiority so ingrained that he cannot conceive of himself as individually strong and valuable. Hence the collectivism of the oversocialized man. He can feel strong only as a member of a large organization or a mass movement with which he identifies himself. He may claim that his activism is motivated by compassion or by moral principles, but compassion and moral principle cannot be the main motives for moralist activism. Hostility is too prominent a component of moralist behavior; so is the drive for power. -
2019-01-04 at 10:33 PM UTC in We are a specific mart of the universeThere is no "you" and there never was. "You" are the interaction of a variety of systems and process that are constantly changing with no center, you know what they say... plus ça change.
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2019-01-04 at 10:24 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by Lanny That wasn't what I asked you. Could you please re-read the post you were responding to and answer specifically the question I posed.
That is my answer specific to the question you asked me: you have not demonstrated any moral system exists beyond imagination. Your moral conclusions might logically follow your moral framework, but your moral framework is something you are imagining and so your conclusions are only regarding your imagined framework and tell us nothing about reality. If you imagine all cows are moral agents, and if you imagine killing moral agents is always immoral, the logical conclusion of that is that you imagine killing cows is always immoral. This doesn't tell us anything about reality though, it only tells us the logical conclusion of imagining that cows are moral agents while also imagining that killing moral agents is always immoral. -
2019-01-04 at 12:44 PM UTC in We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING III: The Quest for 911 Truth I don't know what those things are (some Phillip K Dick shit?) but if all observers wind up coming to the same conclusion then it does tell us something about reality.
The universe consists of both information and stuff, and both of those components follow rules.
Even aliens will have prime numbers and number theory. That's why we say that things in mathematics are discovered, vs being invented.
Aliens will presumably have thought about morality too, though they will surely reject the style of weirdo post-Christian universalist morality Lanny and Zanick are trying to push, or the entitled confused Muslim morality Loing is trying to push.
Did I just "discover" that all Chulas get glomped, or did I just imagine that up?
