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2018-01-24 at 8:16 PM UTC in Policeman beheaded and son has heart/skin removed while alive
Originally posted by mmQ Yeah. You're trying to convince me otherwise, as if I have a choice. You also agree in choice. My meat computer gives me all of the choices and lets me decide for myself. I am my own meat computer programmed continually by myself.
Your meat computer decides. You are your meat computer. Therefore free will? I guess this works. -
2018-01-24 at 8:14 PM UTC in I just took my meds
Originally posted by Enter kek this thread reminded me that i forgot to take my meds today
i forgot to take em yesterday too
i have to take them with food and im too fucking lazy to eat
I BET YOU THAT YOU DONT EVEN NEED TO HAVE THEM WTIH FOOD, ITS JUST A FUCKING SCAM OR SOME SHIT
AND SO IM NOT FUCKING TAKING THEM ALL COZ OF THAT FUCKING STUPID TAKE WITH FOOD SHIT
I FUCKING HATE EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!
Food probably increases how much is absorbed. I know my spiro is like 50% more effective when taken with food.
This is such a mood thooo... I fucking hate having to eat to take my pills. -
2018-01-24 at 8:05 PM UTC in Policeman beheaded and son has heart/skin removed while alive
Originally posted by mmQ Well IIII say free will is making a choice when I think I could have made the other. That being how I feel, I have free will.
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Did you have a choice in feeling that way? And when you make a choice, do you really? You're going to choose whatever the meat computer spits out, and what it spits out is not something you had a choice over. -
2018-01-24 at 7:56 PM UTC in Policeman beheaded and son has heart/skin removed while alive
Originally posted by Captain Falcon Yes, we've already stated that. Obbe (and I guess you since you're on that side of the fence) can't even give a cogent definition of free will, but keep trying to assert what isn't it. Saying "free will isn't possible" or "free will isn't coherent" doesn't answer the question: what the fuck is this "free will" that you're saying isn't coherent or isn't possible?
By contrast, I'm giving you a definition in a syllogistic form. Now you can either tell me why the syllogism is invalid, or you can offer your own, superior definition for free will and we can argue about that.
If your definition is simply "the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate" then we can both agree that that isn't possible. But that's not, contrary to what Obbe is trying to weasel in, what people mean when they say free will because I could talk to any person and get them to agree that we're a combination of our genes and our environment, but they would still believe they have agency. Why is that? Is that possible? I say yes. You say no. I've given my justification but you have failed to do so.
I just gave a definition... "free will is will that is not a result of processes outside your control".
You keep saying we refuse to define it, but we have, and you refuse to agree with that definition and keep arguing strawmen (unimpeded will).
If you can demonstrate that your will is not predetermined by factors you have no control over, you will have demonstrated free will exists. If you cannot... then that's on you. -
2018-01-24 at 7:46 PM UTC in Policeman beheaded and son has heart/skin removed while alive
Originally posted by D4NG0 I am enslaved by gravity. pls help
You're enslaved by all the fundamental forces, and their ramifications. If your brain is responsible for all your actions, and your brain is controlled by chemistry, which is controlled by physics... you are controlled by physics.
Originally posted by 哈哈你看不懂中文 If men can call themselves women, I want to be a deity.
I didn't have a choice. 🤗😂 -
2018-01-24 at 7:42 PM UTC in Policeman beheaded and son has heart/skin removed while alive
Originally posted by mmQ How are there ten mafillion pages of laymen and philosophers from all eras discussing this?
I guess it's because we're meat computers and this was programmed in to happen.
Hey maybe I CAN get on board with this whole concept that I don't have any free will. It's a nice easy go-to for answering a lot of questions and avoiding having to come up with explanations.
"mmQ, why were you 4 hours late"
"Meat computer, bitch! I ain't got no fucking choice. Deal with it!"
This is basically where this argument always ends up - there's no good argument FOR free will's existence, but there's always the insinuation that either the person arguing against it is afraid of accountability or that without the accountabilty provided by the illusion of free will everyone is a piece of shit. *sigh* -
2018-01-24 at 7:33 PM UTC in Policeman beheaded and son has heart/skin removed while aliveEssentially this boils down to CF saying you have free will if you're free to enact your will, and me 'n' obbe saying you have free will if your will itself is not a result of factors outside your control.
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2018-01-24 at 7:27 PM UTC in Policeman beheaded and son has heart/skin removed while alive
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2018-01-24 at 7:18 PM UTC in Policeman beheaded and son has heart/skin removed while alive
Originally posted by Captain Falcon You "keep" being retarded and not understanding the contention of compatibilism, which is that we are in fact a meat computer but that doesn't prevent us from taking responsibility for our actions/have agency. I say "keep" because I've already addressed this at least a dozen times. I can't really do anything if you refuse to grasp basic English.
I'll use the simplest possible words to put this as a syllogism:
1. If you want to do something and
2. Someone else's wants don't stop you from doing something or make you do something then
3. You are free
1. If the universe is governed by a set of laws that determine the physical
2. And you are part of the universe, governed by those laws
3. Then you are not free.
Not being impeded by another person in the process of taking an action you "want" to do changes nothing as to whether you were free/had a choice to "want" that in the first place. -_- -
2018-01-24 at 7:10 PM UTC in What do you want to think about last before you die?
Originally posted by Captain Falcon If you're in a club, you are already entering a zone of retardation so I don't mind it as much there, it is just a shit dance move and they are repelling pussy like scented lotion, everyone is drunk so who cares.
It's the general activity of dabbing that outside of a club that makes me want to punch people in the throat.
I am going to track you down and meet with you in public. I'm going to make it seem like we're good friends, in front of other people you know, and then I am going to dab. I'm going to dab so sincerely and autistically that your real friends will never talk to you again because they'll remember me dabbing on 'em. -
2018-01-24 at 6:47 PM UTC in Policeman beheaded and son has heart/skin removed while alive
Originally posted by Captain Falcon An idea like a soul has no relevance to free will.
I explained why it does - if your consciousness is a product of the mechanistic physical world we live in, your consciousness is as mechanically determined as everything else. Every atom in the universe, every subatomic particle, is where it is as a result of the conditions of our universe. If your thoughts are carried by the physical, all your actions determined by those thoughts, then you aren't actually in control - physics is.
You are a meat computer.
Whatever the universe inputs, your output is always determined by your meat... and the way your meat works is governed by the universe. Without a soul, separate from the meat, ungoverned by the universe... it's pretty irrational to assume you are actually in control. 🤗
PS: I resent that you said "I keep" making shitty arguments. I've posted twice. -
2018-01-24 at 6:32 PM UTC in How do you flirt with women?Playfully because I'm not tryna get laid.
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2018-01-24 at 11:34 AM UTC in What do you want to think about last before you die?How painless it is, and what relief I feel. Alternatively: I want it to happen so fast that my last thought is basically some inconsequential shit like a shitpost I'm halfway through typing.
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2018-01-24 at 11:30 AM UTC in Tell us your password.The name of a fictional AI followed by my student ID number from gradeschool.
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2018-01-24 at 7:18 AM UTC in Attention seekingI sent someone a pciture of myself earlier and I feel like suuuch an attention whore.
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2018-01-24 at 7:06 AM UTC in What drug(s) are you on right now?I just ate a dark Lindt chocolate. Does that count? Experiencing good tastes and the mellow relaxation you feel when dark choccy first hits your tongue.
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2018-01-24 at 3:57 AM UTC in What percent body fat are the worlds top fattest people?
Originally posted by Vizier Top 10 Most Obese Countries (July 1st, 2017)
United States of America – 109,342,839
China – 97,256,700
India – 65,619,826
Brazil – 41,857,656
Mexico – 36,294,881
Russia – 34,701,531
Egypt – 28,192,861
Turkey – 23,819,781
Iran – 21,183,488
Nigeria – 20,997,494
https://renewbariatrics.com/obesity-rank-by-countries/
This looks like it says America has the most fat people, but do tgey have the most fat people per capita? -
2018-01-23 at 11:49 PM UTC in Online Dating?
Originally posted by Daily You know the way you type makes me unironically want to fuck you in the ass right? You know that right? Of course you do, that's exactly what you're trying to do you little faggot. Your goal on the internets is to flip as many heterosexuals as possible so they start making threads like "what's more gay" while thanking enter posts about how women are gross and disgusting. I would fuck your little sloppy mouth for lubrication before sticking it in your ass and I would do it missionary so I could watch your little faggot face moan in pain and pleasure
Boys are too easy. I'm not even doing anything... 👯 -
2018-01-23 at 11:05 PM UTC in Have you had a hard life?
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2018-01-23 at 11:03 PM UTC in Have you had a hard life?I made it a lot harder than it needed to be. -_-
