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2023-01-15 at 6:13 PM UTC in First Nano Scale RP_I Methamphetamine attemptHi again, i did it but the results really confused me, first i extracted the Pseudo by soaking pills in methanol "3 methanol pulls" evaporated then acetone wash, left with white powder "60% yield" tastes very bitter even after drinking some water, well, here is what i did:
2 gm E
2 gm iodine "Resublimed pearls" (Lab Grade)
1 gm RP (Lab Grade)
First added E then I in a 250 ml Erlenmeyer flask then slowly added RP then 1/2 ml dH2O, no reaction, another 1 ml dH2O, still no reaction, added another 1 ml dH2O then it started reacting and boiling after starting generating white smoke i attached my 5 meters long hose with a balloon on the end, reaction going well then stopped, waited a little then put the flask on a hot plate for seconds making it go again then off the hot plate until reaction stop then on hot plate again, going like that for 1 hour or so then let cool for about 15 minutes.
Hose removed and flask smells like S*** still have some white smoke, waited then added some dH2o, shaked then filytered now i have a jar with a yellow honey looking liquid with Ph = 2/2.5
Added some NaOH solution, swirl, until Ph is 14, then added toluene, gave it a good shake then let rest for almost 30 minutes, now jar has 3 layers, toluene on top, water at bottom and a thin white middle layer with bubbles and stuff, pulled the toluene upper layer using a syringe.
Now i had another jar with toluene, gassed using H2So4 + NaCl, was left with white powder that burn with black smoke, nothing, please correct me if there is anything wrong.
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2023-01-08 at 3:28 PM UTC in Extracting Pseudoephedrine Hydrochloride From White Actifed Pills
Originally posted by RIPtotse You are an idiot bro.
Theres 100 easier ways to get meth.
Tor/onion…hookers..take a cab to a 'homeless' area and buy a dude a g to get u an ounce. The shit is so cheap here and so saturated you can basically go outside and cook up the dirt to get a hit.
Jesus christ or just go to a crooked doctor and ask for fucking desoxyn or vyvanse.
There are other ways to source ephedrine use ur brain padawan
Maybe but not here where i live, also there is no pure methamphetamine here, try buying some and you will end with meth-iso crystals or just pure isopropylbenzylamine.
These specific pills are the only way to get pseudo from pills here and lots of people were using them, other pills have pseudo + Acetaminophen/paracetamol, etc in them. -
2023-01-08 at 4:27 AM UTC in Extracting Pseudoephedrine Hydrochloride From White Actifed Pills
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood just crush them aup and use the crusehd up pills the fuck nigga i aint trying to do chemistry and learn gravity filtyer hot cold PULL IT OUT IT HURTS PUT IT BACK IN IT STINKS
Can you please explain what do you mean "filtyer hot cold"? you saying crush pills and use as is, this is impossible. -
2023-01-08 at 3:56 AM UTC in Extracting Pseudoephedrine Hydrochloride From White Actifed PillsRegarding my post :
https://niggasin.space/thread/79027
I am trying to extract pseudoephedrine hydrochloride from white actifed pills, the Active Ingredients in these pills are: "pseudoephedrine hydrochloride (60 mg), triprolidine hydrochloride (2.5 mg), lactose monohydrate, maize starch, povidone, magnesium stearate"
Tried some of the old extraction methods but and got almost nothing, solvents here have different names "what is called painter naphtha here is kind of oily, smells more like gasoline/kerosene, and there is "Paint Thinner" which is different, not oily with a very lite smell of gasoline/kerosene and it is clear liquid"
After reading more about different solvents names "names are different where i live" and the pills ingredients' solubility, i tried this first:
1 - 24 "60 MG" pills grinded into powder.
2 - added what we call here "Paint Thinner" to the pill powder in a jar, shaked and let sit in the jar with lid on until solids at the bottom with now cloudy paint thinner.
3 - Filytered the cloudy paint thinner into a pyrex dish leaving the solids at the bottom, repeated the second step, filytered again leaving the solids at the bottom.
4 - Evaporated the cloudy paint thinner until almost gone.
5 - Scrapped the remainings and washed with acetone, was left with white little shiny crystalline looking powder (not all of it looks shiny) with a weight of 0.28 gm.
Testing:
- The white shiny looking powder in water, Ph level 6 - 6.5
- Soluble in water.
- Insoluble in Acetone.
- Not very soluble or almost Insoluble in toluene.
- Almost soluble in Xylene.
Today i tried again, same steps but this time i used Ethanol instead of that "Paint Thinner", filytered twice until Ethanol was almost clear, evapourated, scrapped the remainings and washed twice with Acetone, was left with white powder with a weight of 0.19 gm which has a Bitter Taste.
Testing:
- The white powder in water has Ph level 6
- Very Soluble in water.
- Insoluble in Acetone.
- Insoluble in toluene.
- Almost Insoluble in Xylene.
- Very soluble in Isopropyl Alcohol
- Bitter taste
I didn't try the other solvent yet "what they call here naphtha which smells more like gasoline/kerosene", will post tomorrow about the results after doing it, any comments or suggestions are more than welcome (really need help here). -
2023-01-08 at 2:49 AM UTC in First Nano Scale RP_I Methamphetamine attempt
Originally posted by methman I tried something, here:
1 - 24 "60 MG" pills grinded into powder.
2 - added what we call here "Paint Thinner" to the pill powder in a jar, shaked and let sit in the jar with lid on until solids at the bottom with now cloudy paint thinner.
3 - enhancemented the cloudy paint thinner into a pyrex dish leaving the solids at the bottom, repeated the second step, enhancemented again leaving the solids at the bottom.
4 - Evapourated the cloudy paint thinner until almost gone.
5 - Scrapped the remainings and washed with acetone, was left with white little shiny crystalline looking powder (not all of it looks shiny) with a weight of 0.28 gm.
Testing:
- The white shiny looking powder in water, Ph level 6 - 6.5
- Soluble in water.
- Insoluble in Acetone.
- Not very soluble or almost Insoluble in toluene.
- Almost soluble in Xylene.
Originally posted by blaster master taste it, is it bitter?
Tried again today, same steps but this time i used Ethanol instead of that "Paint Thinner", enhancemented twice until Ethanol was almost clear, evapourated, scrapped the remainings and washed twice with Acetone, was left with white powder with a weight of 0.19 gm which has a Bitter Taste.
Testing:
- The white powder in water has Ph level 6
- Very Soluble in water.
- Insoluble in Acetone.
- Insoluble in toluene.
- Almost Insoluble in Xylene.
- Very soluble in Isopropyl Alcohol
- Bitter taste
Any comments are more than welcome, i didn't try the other solvent yet "what they call here naphtha which smells more like gasoline/kerosene", will post tomorrow about the results after doing it.
Thanks all -
2023-01-07 at 5:40 AM UTC in First Nano Scale RP_I Methamphetamine attempt
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2023-01-07 at 3:56 AM UTC in First Nano Scale RP_I Methamphetamine attemptI tried something, here:
1 - 24 "60 MG" pills grinded into powder.
2 - added what we call here "Paint Thinner" to the pill powder in a jar, shaked and let sit in the jar with lid on until solids at the bottom with now cloudy paint thinner.
3 - enhancemented the cloudy paint thinner into a pyrex dish leaving the solids at the bottom, repeated the second step, enhancemented again leaving the solids at the bottom.
4 - Evapourated the cloudy paint thinner until almost gone.
5 - Scrapped the remainings and washed with acetone, was left with white little shiny crystalline looking powder (not all of it looks shiny) with a weight of 0.28 gm.
Testing:
- The white shiny looking powder in water, Ph level 6 - 6.5
- Soluble in water.
- Insoluble in Acetone.
- Not very soluble or almost Insoluble in toluene.
- Almost soluble in Xylene.
Any comments about the extracted powder are more than welcome about , i will try again using the other solvent "what they call here naphtha which smells more like gasoline/kerosene", will post again about the results. -
2023-01-07 at 3:23 AM UTC in First Nano Scale RP_I Methamphetamine attempt
Originally posted by RIPtotse Purchasing meth is probably like 98% easier.
I dont do meff but it doesnt seem like its worth it anymore since the pills have been [and are constantly being] changed
Lots of people here still doing it, btw these Actifed pills here "Pseudoephedrine Hydrochloride 60 mg, Triprolidine Hydrochloride 2.5 mg" are the same, not changed since the 90's -
2023-01-06 at 7:37 PM UTC in First Nano Scale RP_I Methamphetamine attempt
Originally posted by RIPtotse Wot country?
Well, what i meant is that we have here naphtha which smells more like gasoline/kerosene, and there is "Paint Thinner" which is different with a very lite smell of gasoline/kerosene and it is clear liquid, different names here where i live "Middle East", need to know if there are any alternatives or if i can just use these. -
2023-01-06 at 4:24 PM UTC in First Nano Scale RP_I Methamphetamine attempt
Originally posted by blaster master From what I've heard the pills in the US are very difficult to get E from since like 2004. They change the gaak formula often too, so that if someone was to find a work around, it won't work for long.
We are not in the US here, well, after searching i found 2 methods which might work, this one
hxxps://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straight-e.html
and this one
hxxps://thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=13394.msg54152410#msg54152410
still having some problems, Tetrachloroethylene is not sold anymore, also, most stuff needed have different names here, we don't have anything called "VM&P Naptha" but we do have paint naphtha which is sold in small bottles, etc, and that's what i have access to at the moment (Isopropyl Alcohol, lacquer thinner, Xylene, toluene, ethanol, paint thinner)
I really wonder if this can be done another way or any alternatives for the solvents needed.
Thank you all -
2023-01-04 at 6:21 PM UTC in First Nano Scale RP_I Methamphetamine attemptHello again :)
After letting my pill powder soaked in toluene sit in jar with lid over night i siphoned the toluene into a Pyrex dish and evaporated most of it, i got nothing, really don't know what is wrong here, i am working with Actifed pills "Pseudoephedrine Hydrochloride 60 mg, Triprolidine Hydrochloride 2.5 mg" -
2023-01-04 at 12:37 AM UTC in First Nano Scale RP_I Methamphetamine attemptThis will be my first attempt after reading alot about nano scale, will be using a 7up or beer bottle attached to a 5 meters long hose with a balloon on the end as a reaction vessel "bottle placed in warm sand", please correct me if there is anything wrong.
For Extracting Pseudo i will crush the pills, soak in toluene, shake and let set for 12 hours until toluene is clear, siphon toluene into a Pyrex dish and place on electric plate until the toluene is almost evaporated, let dry and scrape the powder using a razor blade.
Ratios i will be using.
1.5 gm E
1.5 gm iodine resublimed pearls (Lab Grade)
1 gm RP (Lab Grade)
thanks all in advance -
2022-12-21 at 8:01 PM UTC in Questions regarding cooking meth Shake and Bake
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood you wouldn't even know what that is unless i posted it in this thread
maybe this? the generator doesn't use any aluminum though but maybe his did , or its not a genny
it sounds retarded or genius
I don't think it is generating anything cause these barrels were open with some dark solution and aluminum foil floating, also, he was using some pressure cooker (maybe for some reaction). -
2022-12-21 at 3:01 AM UTC in Questions regarding cooking meth Shake and Bake
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood yeah it's a common setup i found googling hcl gas generator , dumbfuck thanks for posting literally the exact thing I did
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I dunno man could be any number of things, was it FOIL or aluminum powder? Almost sounds like a hg/al reduction than a birch
i think you can also make normal non methylated amphetamine with iron powder or aluminum powder or something
these big barrels were open with dark solution and aluminum foil floating, dunno really if it is al/hg redcution, well, ammonium sulfate fert was found along with the other stuff. -
2022-12-21 at 1:27 AM UTC in Questions regarding cooking meth Shake and BakeWell, then using 18650 batteries might work cause as far as i know they don't have lithium metal, and regarding my aluminum question, there was a video about that guy showing some open big blue plastic barrels with some solution and aluminum in it, that's why i was asking if it was possible he was doing it that way "really don't know what he was getting out of that" which is really strange i think
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2022-12-21 at 1:24 AM UTC in Questions regarding cooking meth Shake and Bake
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2022-12-21 at 1:11 AM UTC in Questions regarding cooking meth Shake and Bake
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2022-12-21 at 1:07 AM UTC in Questions regarding cooking meth Shake and Bake
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood either the police or the people reporting on the story don't know what they are talking about, or the person cooking just didn't have alkali metal around, I don't see why you care so much about this one detail
the aluminum was likely for generating hcl for a gassing rig
. It's not strange at all sorry for the hostility but I am suspicious about new accounts that post links
I never tried ripping apart a 18650 but I assumed they did have lithium in them, but if it's just IONS and not a sheet yeah idk why they would want those but there are more methods of obtaining alkali than just batteries
Thanks, so using 18650 batteries migh work then? regarding the aluminum question there was a video too but they deleted it i think and there was lots of open big blue plastic barrels with some solution and aluminum in it, that's why i was asking if it was possible he was doing it that way "dunno what he was getting out of that" which is really strange.
Thanks again. -
2022-12-21 at 12:31 AM UTC in Questions regarding cooking meth Shake and Bake
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood you can buy ammonia salt anywhere, cold packs are like $6 for a few hundred grams but you can buy a 50kg bag of the exact same thing as fertiilzer for like 1/4th the price
.aspx btw lol nice police link ya fucking fed, kill yourself. Clickijng that probably hijacks ur computer"An ASPX file is an Active Server Page Extended file built for Microsoft ASP.NET"
NICE TRY
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who the fuck cares? POlice are dumb like u it's not a HIDDEN QUESTION its just dumb people that don't knww shit about waht they talkin bout, learn chemistry NEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!!!!!!
There is no need to be rude and there are no feds here, the link is from some ahram news in Egypt "you can check the chached page" or i can just copy and paste the content, anyway, still didn't get it as some are using 18650 lithium-ion batteries which have no lithium metal, also about not using aluminum which forms a blue colored solution in liquid ammonia, i know that we need an alkali metal "lithium, sodium, etc" to form the solvated metal cations and the solvated electron as they have low ionization potential and can easily lose (donate) an electron, still no detailed or simple answers to my questions, this is strange. -
2022-12-20 at 11:34 PM UTC in Questions regarding cooking meth Shake and BakeHi all had some questions regarding the shake and bake method using this but just dividing keeping the ratios
From The Clandistine Chemist's Notebook:
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200 60mg Pseudophedrine HCL pills (Actifed, Sudafed, Suphedrine, etc.)
1 1/2 cups Ammonium Nitrate fertilizer (33-0-0)
3 cans starting fluid (i wll be using pure diethyl ether or toluene here)
3 AA Energizer Lithuim Batteries
1 bottle Red Devil brand Lye
2 caps of water (use the top off the 2 liter)
1 box Iodized Salt
1 bottle Liquid Fire brand drain opener
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video for the procedure i will be using:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkxaqSp9ZdY
I have 3 questions, first, regarding the Ammonium Nitrate fertlizer i am using contains both "calcium nitrate" and "magnesium nitrate" (Only "0.16 % magnesium nitrate" and "0.3 % calcium nitrate"), calcium nitrate works as a meth inhibitor which foils the meth as far as i know, what do i have to do for a better yield:
1 - Separate the calcium by adding water/heat/let set for while/enhancement/evaporate/air dry
2 - Use "NaOh + Fertlizer" to generate NH3 gas > bubbling NH3 gas through PFED/diethyl ether "safer, no pressure needed".
3 - Use as is "works but with low yield i think"?
My second question is if i can use 18650 lithium-ion batteries instead of advanced or ultimate lithium ones?
Last question, about aluminium, aluminium forms a blue colored solution in liquid ammonia so why not used as reducing agent instead of LI/NA, etc? just check this:
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/2/464364/Egypt/Society/El-Chapo-in-Egypt-A-deadly-mix-of-murder-and-meth-.aspx
they caught someone in Sohag, Egypt for running a meth lab, this guy used the birch/benkeser/birch-like reduction 'one pot' shake n bake BUT without any Lithium or Sodium metals, not even any of the 5 or 7 alkali metals, he was caught with 4500 grams crystal meth along with everything used in a birch/benkeser/whatever called-reduction 'with names and pictures' ammonium sulphate fertilizer, actifed pills as a source of pseudoephedrine, hydrochloric acid, sulfuric acid, salt, toluene, sodium hydroxide and LOTS of Aluminum foil but no alkali metals, really need some clarification about that, lots of hidden info and lots of questions here.
Thanks all
