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Questions regarding cooking meth Shake and Bake
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2022-12-20 at 11:34 PM UTCHi all had some questions regarding the shake and bake method using this but just dividing keeping the ratios
From The Clandistine Chemist's Notebook:
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200 60mg Pseudophedrine HCL pills (Actifed, Sudafed, Suphedrine, etc.)
1 1/2 cups Ammonium Nitrate fertilizer (33-0-0)
3 cans starting fluid (i wll be using pure diethyl ether or toluene here)
3 AA Energizer Lithuim Batteries
1 bottle Red Devil brand Lye
2 caps of water (use the top off the 2 liter)
1 box Iodized Salt
1 bottle Liquid Fire brand drain opener
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video for the procedure i will be using:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkxaqSp9ZdY
I have 3 questions, first, regarding the Ammonium Nitrate fertlizer i am using contains both "calcium nitrate" and "magnesium nitrate" (Only "0.16 % magnesium nitrate" and "0.3 % calcium nitrate"), calcium nitrate works as a meth inhibitor which foils the meth as far as i know, what do i have to do for a better yield:
1 - Separate the calcium by adding water/heat/let set for while/enhancement/evaporate/air dry
2 - Use "NaOh + Fertlizer" to generate NH3 gas > bubbling NH3 gas through PFED/diethyl ether "safer, no pressure needed".
3 - Use as is "works but with low yield i think"?
My second question is if i can use 18650 lithium-ion batteries instead of advanced or ultimate lithium ones?
Last question, about aluminium, aluminium forms a blue colored solution in liquid ammonia so why not used as reducing agent instead of LI/NA, etc? just check this:
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/2/464364/Egypt/Society/El-Chapo-in-Egypt-A-deadly-mix-of-murder-and-meth-.aspx
they caught someone in Sohag, Egypt for running a meth lab, this guy used the birch/benkeser/birch-like reduction 'one pot' shake n bake BUT without any Lithium or Sodium metals, not even any of the 5 or 7 alkali metals, he was caught with 4500 grams crystal meth along with everything used in a birch/benkeser/whatever called-reduction 'with names and pictures' ammonium sulphate fertilizer, actifed pills as a source of pseudoephedrine, hydrochloric acid, sulfuric acid, salt, toluene, sodium hydroxide and LOTS of Aluminum foil but no alkali metals, really need some clarification about that, lots of hidden info and lots of questions here.
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2022-12-21 at 12:02 AM UTCyou can buy ammonia salt anywhere, cold packs are like $6 for a few hundred grams but you can buy a 50kg bag of the exact same thing as fertiilzer for like 1/4th the price
.aspx btw lol nice police link ya fucking fed, kill yourself. Clickijng that probably hijacks ur computer"An ASPX file is an Active Server Page Extended file built for Microsoft ASP.NET"
NICE TRY
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Originally posted by methman they caught someone in Sohag, Egypt for running a meth lab, this guy used the birch/benkeser/birch-like reduction 'one pot' shake n bake BUT without any Lithium or Sodium metals, not even any of the 5 or 7 alkali metals, he was caught with 4500 grams crystal meth along with everything used in a birch/benkeser/whatever called-reduction 'with names and pictures' ammonium sulphate fertilizer, actifed pills as a source of pseudoephedrine, hydrochloric acid, sulfuric acid, salt, toluene, sodium hydroxide and LOTS of Aluminum foil but no alkali metals, really need some clarification about that, lots of hidden info and lots of questions here
who the fuck cares? POlice are dumb like u it's not a HIDDEN QUESTION its just dumb people that don't knww shit about waht they talkin bout, learn chemistry NEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!!!!!! -
2022-12-21 at 12:28 AM UTCOP have you ever thought about taking a nap
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2022-12-21 at 12:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood you can buy ammonia salt anywhere, cold packs are like $6 for a few hundred grams but you can buy a 50kg bag of the exact same thing as fertiilzer for like 1/4th the price
.aspx btw lol nice police link ya fucking fed, kill yourself. Clickijng that probably hijacks ur computer"An ASPX file is an Active Server Page Extended file built for Microsoft ASP.NET"
NICE TRY
also
who the fuck cares? POlice are dumb like u it's not a HIDDEN QUESTION its just dumb people that don't knww shit about waht they talkin bout, learn chemistry NEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!!!!!!
There is no need to be rude and there are no feds here, the link is from some ahram news in Egypt "you can check the chached page" or i can just copy and paste the content, anyway, still didn't get it as some are using 18650 lithium-ion batteries which have no lithium metal, also about not using aluminum which forms a blue colored solution in liquid ammonia, i know that we need an alkali metal "lithium, sodium, etc" to form the solvated metal cations and the solvated electron as they have low ionization potential and can easily lose (donate) an electron, still no detailed or simple answers to my questions, this is strange. -
2022-12-21 at 12:55 AM UTCeither the police or the people reporting on the story don't know what they are talking about, or the person cooking just didn't have alkali metal around, I don't see why you care so much about this one detail
the aluminum was likely for generating hcl for a gassing rig
. It's not strange at all sorry for the hostility but I am suspicious about new accounts that post links
I never tried ripping apart a 18650 but I assumed they did have lithium in them, but if it's just IONS and not a sheet yeah idk why they would want those but there are more methods of obtaining alkali than just batteries
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2022-12-21 at 12:59 AM UTC
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2022-12-21 at 1:07 AM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood either the police or the people reporting on the story don't know what they are talking about, or the person cooking just didn't have alkali metal around, I don't see why you care so much about this one detail
the aluminum was likely for generating hcl for a gassing rig
. It's not strange at all sorry for the hostility but I am suspicious about new accounts that post links
I never tried ripping apart a 18650 but I assumed they did have lithium in them, but if it's just IONS and not a sheet yeah idk why they would want those but there are more methods of obtaining alkali than just batteries
Thanks, so using 18650 batteries migh work then? regarding the aluminum question there was a video too but they deleted it i think and there was lots of open big blue plastic barrels with some solution and aluminum in it, that's why i was asking if it was possible he was doing it that way "dunno what he was getting out of that" which is really strange.
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2022-12-21 at 1:27 AM UTCWell, then using 18650 batteries might work cause as far as i know they don't have lithium metal, and regarding my aluminum question, there was a video about that guy showing some open big blue plastic barrels with some solution and aluminum in it, that's why i was asking if it was possible he was doing it that way "really don't know what he was getting out of that" which is really strange i think
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2022-12-21 at 1:54 AM UTC
Originally posted by Haxxor
I’m sure that ⬆️ information is as easy to find as the photo was
yeah it's a common setup i found googling hcl gas generator , dumbfuck thanks for posting literally the exact thing I did
Originally posted by methman Well, then using 18650 batteries might work cause as far as i know they don't have lithium metal, and regarding my aluminum question, there was a video about that guy showing some open big blue plastic barrels with some solution and aluminum in it, that's why i was asking if it was possible he was doing it that way "really don't know what he was getting out of that" which is really strange i think
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I dunno man could be any number of things, was it FOIL or aluminum powder? Almost sounds like a hg/al reduction than a birch
i think you can also make normal non methylated amphetamine with iron powder or aluminum powder or something -
2022-12-21 at 2:53 AM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood yeah it's a common setup i found googling hcl gas generator , dumbfuck thanks for posting literally the exact thing I did
Actually dumbfuck, the site where he could find the information…is much more helpful than some “pictures”
😑 case & point
cry some more -
2022-12-21 at 3:01 AM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood yeah it's a common setup i found googling hcl gas generator , dumbfuck thanks for posting literally the exact thing I did
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I dunno man could be any number of things, was it FOIL or aluminum powder? Almost sounds like a hg/al reduction than a birch
i think you can also make normal non methylated amphetamine with iron powder or aluminum powder or something
these big barrels were open with dark solution and aluminum foil floating, dunno really if it is al/hg redcution, well, ammonium sulfate fert was found along with the other stuff. -
2022-12-21 at 5:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by Haxxor Actually dumbfuck, the site where he could find the information…is much more helpful than some “pictures”
😑 case & point
cry some more
you wouldn't even know what that is unless i posted it in this thread
Originally posted by methman these big barrels were open with dark solution and aluminum foil floating, dunno really if it is al/hg redcution, well, ammonium sulfate fert was found along with the other stuff.
maybe this? the generator doesn't use any aluminum though but maybe his did , or its not a genny
it sounds retarded or genius -
2022-12-21 at 8:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood you wouldn't even know what that is unless i posted it in this thread
maybe this? the generator doesn't use any aluminum though but maybe his did , or its not a genny
it sounds retarded or genius
I don't think it is generating anything cause these barrels were open with some dark solution and aluminum foil floating, also, he was using some pressure cooker (maybe for some reaction). -
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