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First Nano Scale RP_I Methamphetamine attempt
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2023-01-04 at 12:37 AM UTCThis will be my first attempt after reading alot about nano scale, will be using a 7up or beer bottle attached to a 5 meters long hose with a balloon on the end as a reaction vessel "bottle placed in warm sand", please correct me if there is anything wrong.
For Extracting Pseudo i will crush the pills, soak in toluene, shake and let set for 12 hours until toluene is clear, siphon toluene into a Pyrex dish and place on electric plate until the toluene is almost evaporated, let dry and scrape the powder using a razor blade.
Ratios i will be using.
1.5 gm E
1.5 gm iodine resublimed pearls (Lab Grade)
1 gm RP (Lab Grade)
thanks all in advanceThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-01-04 at 2:45 PM UTC
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2023-01-04 at 6:21 PM UTCHello again :)
After letting my pill powder soaked in toluene sit in jar with lid over night i siphoned the toluene into a Pyrex dish and evaporated most of it, i got nothing, really don't know what is wrong here, i am working with Actifed pills "Pseudoephedrine Hydrochloride 60 mg, Triprolidine Hydrochloride 2.5 mg" -
2023-01-04 at 6:38 PM UTCYah hence why no one does this shit anymore when pablo has a fucking basement full of crystals the size of your arm.
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2023-01-04 at 10:33 PM UTC
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2023-01-06 at 4:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by blaster master From what I've heard the pills in the US are very difficult to get E from since like 2004. They change the gaak formula often too, so that if someone was to find a work around, it won't work for long.
We are not in the US here, well, after searching i found 2 methods which might work, this one
hxxps://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straight-e.html
and this one
hxxps://thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=13394.msg54152410#msg54152410
still having some problems, Tetrachloroethylene is not sold anymore, also, most stuff needed have different names here, we don't have anything called "VM&P Naptha" but we do have paint naphtha which is sold in small bottles, etc, and that's what i have access to at the moment (Isopropyl Alcohol, lacquer thinner, Xylene, toluene, ethanol, paint thinner)
I really wonder if this can be done another way or any alternatives for the solvents needed.
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2023-01-06 at 5:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by methman We are not in the US here, well, after searching i found 2 methods which might work, this one
hxxps://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straight-e.html
and this one
hxxps://thevespiary.org/talk/index.php?topic=13394.msg54152410#msg54152410
still having some problems, Tetrachloroethylene is not sold anymore, also, most stuff needed have different names here, we don't have anything called "VM&P Naptha" but we do have paint naphtha which is sold in small bottles, etc, and that's what i have access to at the moment (Isopropyl Alcohol, lacquer thinner, Xylene, toluene, ethanol, paint thinner)
I really wonder if this can be done another way or any alternatives for the solvents needed.
Thank you all
Wot country? -
2023-01-06 at 7:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by RIPtotse Wot country?
Well, what i meant is that we have here naphtha which smells more like gasoline/kerosene, and there is "Paint Thinner" which is different with a very lite smell of gasoline/kerosene and it is clear liquid, different names here where i live "Middle East", need to know if there are any alternatives or if i can just use these. -
2023-01-07 at 1:03 AM UTCPurchasing meth is probably like 98% easier.
I dont do meff but it doesnt seem like its worth it anymore since the pills have been [and are constantly being] changed -
2023-01-07 at 3:23 AM UTC
Originally posted by RIPtotse Purchasing meth is probably like 98% easier.
I dont do meff but it doesnt seem like its worth it anymore since the pills have been [and are constantly being] changed
Lots of people here still doing it, btw these Actifed pills here "Pseudoephedrine Hydrochloride 60 mg, Triprolidine Hydrochloride 2.5 mg" are the same, not changed since the 90's -
2023-01-07 at 3:56 AM UTCI tried something, here:
1 - 24 "60 MG" pills grinded into powder.
2 - added what we call here "Paint Thinner" to the pill powder in a jar, shaked and let sit in the jar with lid on until solids at the bottom with now cloudy paint thinner.
3 - enhancemented the cloudy paint thinner into a pyrex dish leaving the solids at the bottom, repeated the second step, enhancemented again leaving the solids at the bottom.
4 - Evapourated the cloudy paint thinner until almost gone.
5 - Scrapped the remainings and washed with acetone, was left with white little shiny crystalline looking powder (not all of it looks shiny) with a weight of 0.28 gm.
Testing:
- The white shiny looking powder in water, Ph level 6 - 6.5
- Soluble in water.
- Insoluble in Acetone.
- Not very soluble or almost Insoluble in toluene.
- Almost soluble in Xylene.
Any comments about the extracted powder are more than welcome about , i will try again using the other solvent "what they call here naphtha which smells more like gasoline/kerosene", will post again about the results. -
2023-01-07 at 5:03 AM UTC
Originally posted by methman I tried something, here:
1 - 24 "60 MG" pills grinded into powder.
2 - added what we call here "Paint Thinner" to the pill powder in a jar, shaked and let sit in the jar with lid on until solids at the bottom with now cloudy paint thinner.
3 - enhancemented the cloudy paint thinner into a pyrex dish leaving the solids at the bottom, repeated the second step, enhancemented again leaving the solids at the bottom.
4 - Evapourated the cloudy paint thinner until almost gone.
5 - Scrapped the remainings and washed with acetone, was left with white little shiny crystalline looking powder (not all of it looks shiny) with a weight of 0.28 gm.
Testing:
- The white shiny looking powder in water, Ph level 6 - 6.5
- Soluble in water.
- Insoluble in Acetone.
- Not very soluble or almost Insoluble in toluene.
- Almost soluble in Xylene.
Any comments about the extracted powder are more than welcome about , i will try again using the other solvent "what they call here naphtha which smells more like gasoline/kerosene", will post again about the results.
microcrystalline cellulose honk -
2023-01-07 at 5:40 AM UTC
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2023-01-07 at 7:38 AM UTC
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2023-01-08 at 2:49 AM UTC
Originally posted by methman I tried something, here:
1 - 24 "60 MG" pills grinded into powder.
2 - added what we call here "Paint Thinner" to the pill powder in a jar, shaked and let sit in the jar with lid on until solids at the bottom with now cloudy paint thinner.
3 - enhancemented the cloudy paint thinner into a pyrex dish leaving the solids at the bottom, repeated the second step, enhancemented again leaving the solids at the bottom.
4 - Evapourated the cloudy paint thinner until almost gone.
5 - Scrapped the remainings and washed with acetone, was left with white little shiny crystalline looking powder (not all of it looks shiny) with a weight of 0.28 gm.
Testing:
- The white shiny looking powder in water, Ph level 6 - 6.5
- Soluble in water.
- Insoluble in Acetone.
- Not very soluble or almost Insoluble in toluene.
- Almost soluble in Xylene.
Originally posted by blaster master taste it, is it bitter?
Tried again today, same steps but this time i used Ethanol instead of that "Paint Thinner", enhancemented twice until Ethanol was almost clear, evapourated, scrapped the remainings and washed twice with Acetone, was left with white powder with a weight of 0.19 gm which has a Bitter Taste.
Testing:
- The white powder in water has Ph level 6
- Very Soluble in water.
- Insoluble in Acetone.
- Insoluble in toluene.
- Almost Insoluble in Xylene.
- Very soluble in Isopropyl Alcohol
- Bitter taste
Any comments are more than welcome, i didn't try the other solvent yet "what they call here naphtha which smells more like gasoline/kerosene", will post tomorrow about the results after doing it.
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2023-01-15 at 6:13 PM UTCHi again, i did it but the results really confused me, first i extracted the Pseudo by soaking pills in methanol "3 methanol pulls" evaporated then acetone wash, left with white powder "60% yield" tastes very bitter even after drinking some water, well, here is what i did:
2 gm E
2 gm iodine "Resublimed pearls" (Lab Grade)
1 gm RP (Lab Grade)
First added E then I in a 250 ml Erlenmeyer flask then slowly added RP then 1/2 ml dH2O, no reaction, another 1 ml dH2O, still no reaction, added another 1 ml dH2O then it started reacting and boiling after starting generating white smoke i attached my 5 meters long hose with a balloon on the end, reaction going well then stopped, waited a little then put the flask on a hot plate for seconds making it go again then off the hot plate until reaction stop then on hot plate again, going like that for 1 hour or so then let cool for about 15 minutes.
Hose removed and flask smells like S*** still have some white smoke, waited then added some dH2o, shaked then filytered now i have a jar with a yellow honey looking liquid with Ph = 2/2.5
Added some NaOH solution, swirl, until Ph is 14, then added toluene, gave it a good shake then let rest for almost 30 minutes, now jar has 3 layers, toluene on top, water at bottom and a thin white middle layer with bubbles and stuff, pulled the toluene upper layer using a syringe.
Now i had another jar with toluene, gassed using H2So4 + NaCl, was left with white powder that burn with black smoke, nothing, please correct me if there is anything wrong.
Thank you all in advance
