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2021-09-21 at 8:51 PM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 2 - Cleaning Pseudoephedrine PillsGoodbye Sodastream Bottle
My new RV setup with a pressure gage, using first stage domestic water enhancement bottle.
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2021-09-18 at 12:56 AM UTC in Shake and bake(Has someone done it like that?)
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2021-09-13 at 6:04 PM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 2 - Cleaning Pseudoephedrine Pills
Originally posted by The Self Taught Man All credit goes to tramp for writeup, RIP.
Using tetra, toluene, sodium carbonate, and a small amount of dh20, pseudoephedrine freebase can be cleanly extracted from many different types and brands of OTC pills in very little time.
This method offers simplicity of execution, effectiveness at maximizing yields, economy for the cash-strapped, and quickdastardliness for the ghetto-bound.
Pills – any OTC pseudoephedrine compilation (with pseudoephedrine as the only active ingredient). Includes: 30mg “Red Hots”, 120mg “12-hour” name brand and generics, 240mg “24-hour” name brand. Pills exist as such only long enough to waltz with washing soda (sodium carbonate) in a blender on high.
MATERIALS
o Beaker – 400ml
o Other heat proof glassware for evaporating or cooling solvent
o Hot plate
o Safety glasses, latex gloves
o enhancement paper or coffee enhancements or cotton balls
o Glass or wood stirring implement (1/2 of a wooden clothespin is splendid)
- Chemicals –
Tetrachloroethylene (brake cleaner, red can (not green) at your local skunk-boys auto supply.)
Toluene or VM&P Naphtha (if you enjoy evaporating solvents, choose Toluene. If you are safety conscious and have some extra time, choose VM&P and chill instead of evaporate).
Sodium Carbonate (washing soda, ph minus pool stuff at dome hepot ).
DH20 (tap works as well)
- Abstract of Procedure –
Grind pills with sodium carbonate in a blender
Dump formed powder into beaker
Saturate powder with tetrachloroethylene
Pour toluene into beaker until the toluene stands about 1” above the pill mass
Heat thoroughly while stirring (let the heat from the bottom transfer into the toluene long enough to bring just to boiling point.
Decant liquid from solids through a cotton ball or other suitable enhancement.
Evaporate decanted solvent (Toluene) or Chill (VM&P) to precipitate freebase crystals.
- Standard Procedure -
1. Combine approximately the same volume of sodium carbonate as unground pill volume: put the pills in the blender, grab a handful of carbonate and toss an eyeballed estimate on top of the pills. A reasonable approximation for 1 box of 96 30mg “red hots” would be about 2.5- 3 tablespoons. Cover the blender, run on high for about 1 minute. Let stand 5 minutes before removing lid.
2. pour the powder created in step 1 into a dry glass beaker – the dry pill mass should not be more than 1/3 of the beaker volume.
3. Carefully hose the powder-in-beaker from step 2 with tetrachloroethylene straight from the can. Hint: direct the stream to the upper part of the beaker onto the glass wall to prevent scattering your dry pill mass. Otherwise, spray the tetra in a glass first, then pour into the beaker. Saturate the pill mass: this means that all of the powder should be wet, but there should be no free-running tetra. Tip the beaker just to make sure that the tetra doesn’t run. The mass should be one glorious whole. If you added to much tetra, the application of heat at this point is prudent – not only to evaporate the extra tetra, but to drive the tetra into the powder more thoroughly. 120mg pills can soak up quite a bit of tetra, so saturate, heat, and add more tetra until you reach this point of saturation. Extra tetra can be soaked up easily from the top of the pill mass with a couple of cotton balls.
4. pour toluene into the beaker until the level of toluene is approximately 1” above the pill mass. This will vary with the overall magnitude of the extraction you are performing – experiment with 3 boxes of 96, using this one-inch approach. You have the option of using VM&P naphtha at this point instead of the toluene – in the precipitation stage, you’ll chill the naptha to crash the crystals. You’ll evap the toluene. Evaping hydrocarbon solvents is nasty business. Just ask Geez. The naptha chill takes 1-2 hours, possibly endangering your position. Your pays yo’ money, you takes yo’ shot.
5. add a dash of water. (for 3 boxes of 96, use 2 tablespoons). Start with little h20 – you can always add more toluene and another shot of h20 if you want to try another pull. You’ll screw the whole gig if you add too much h20 for the first pull.
6. Apply heat gently while stirring until the contents of the beaker are at the boiling point, then back off. Practice makes perfect. Keep the temperature just below that boiling point for 2 minutes (4 minutes if using 120mg 12-hour pills). Stir continuously with appropriate implement.
7. Remove beaker from heat source and let settle for 1 minute.
8. decant all liquid from beaker into a suitable heat-resistant glass pan, bowl, etc. Visionware rules the roost. You may choose to decant through a enhancement/funnel, or just keep a cotton ball at the lip of the beaker as you pour.
9. Evap the toluene on low heat for clean crystals easily lifted. Or if using VM&P naphtha, place in freezer for 2 hours, enhancement, and place the crystals on a coffee enhancement to dry.
Micro crystalline cellulose precipitates out of cold xylene, preboil in straight xylene will remove the bulk of it right away. throw this out or distill it to recover the solvents.
proceed with standard anhydrous extraction into xylene/tetra using Na2CO3
reflux it for a good long time then enhancement it fast and gas it hot
enhancement it hot
rinse it with cold dry mek
recrystallize it from mek/water
then again if you want from either water or an alcohol and acetone.
Investigate the solubility of your particular set of inactives against possibly toluene.
different solvents have slightly different characteristics
some report good results adding about 25% naphtha to the xylene preboil
sometimes pills have unlisted gaaks in them.
pills are hard.
toluene has lower boiling point than xylene but its thinner and more aromatic
its a more selective solvent than xylene
xylene is real aggressive, eats plastic and wax.
Toluene is real nice for extracting final product into
xylene is best all around pill extraction solvent.
Ethyl acetate works really well, too but it needs to be mixed about 10% with ethanol for best effect
and crystallization of the HCl back out of the azeotrope is a pain in the ass
xylene is generally best.
Avoid water and avoid reagents with really high pH… that is, avoid KOH and NaOH with pills as the high pH activates certain gaaks… or so they say…Na2CO3 is plenty high enough pH but doesn't seem to effect the gaaks… water sets the gaaks loco! avoid water unless you can duplicate the human digestive tract in the lab… i mean, people do swallow these pills and the shit does wind up in their blood… so if the body can separate it, so can we, but water methods normally result in a mass of plastic goop… alcohols are treacherous as well…
(not Pseudoephedrine extraction but still pretty useful info)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdTc1AFTKZ0
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/pdf/pseudoephedrine.us6359011.pdf
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.waterless.html
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.fullturps.html
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.smackdown.html
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straightbee.html
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straight-e.html
http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/crystal/000468062
Can I substitute Toluene with Diythlen ether ? And what is the steps if I use Xylene it’s little confusing. -
2021-09-13 at 5:56 PM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood This has been the only development on pill cleaning in the past 15 years. it's basically the same as tetra but you use EA and a long thin container to gravity separate it
it's still a pain in the ass and needs a lot of solvent
Can I use normal paint thinner instead of CleanStrip ? The one in red metal container in embedded picture. or substitute thinner with Xylene or Diethyl ether ? I have access to most of lab chemicals and yet I can’t get at least 60% pure crystal all because of the garbage they mixed with PSE pills.
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2021-09-07 at 6:29 PM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.Does any one bought crystal meth from an online seller or Darkweb, pls advise I am in contact with some online sellers and I don’t want to be scammed. Also it’s is safe on receiving the package ? How they discreetly ship drugs. Pls help I don’t want to be caught for 20 gram and spend 3 years in jail.
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2021-09-07 at 5:56 PM UTC in Shake and bake(Has someone done it like that?)Does any one bought crystal meth from an online seller or Darkweb, pls advise I am in contact with some online sellers and I don’t want to be scammed. Also it’s is safe on receiving the package ? How they discreetly ship drugs. Pls help I don’t want to be caught for 20 gram and spend 3 years in jail
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2021-08-23 at 2:53 PM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.Is their any way to clean fucking PSE pills other than tetra methods ? I hope from meth godfathers to help noobies. TX
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2021-08-22 at 8:08 PM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.Or how they get high out of shake and bake apart from injection
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2021-08-22 at 8:05 PM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood you might have better results if you clean the pills but that's an entire beast of it's own
https://niggasin.space/thread/6585
Just wanted a short cut for me please dose any one get smokable meth out of PSE shake and bake method? -
2021-08-22 at 3:44 PM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.Shake and bake method is pain in the ass I spend almost a week try and error, spend the price of 30 gram meth street price and the final product never get dry it’s oily non smokable and leaving garbage in the pipe despite the nasty test.
I don’t inject I like the experience mood of meth smoking what to do ?!! Is anyone can get smokable meth out of shake and bake method ? -
2021-08-22 at 9:25 AM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.
Originally posted by Donald Trump First thing they tell us in organic chemistry is to be precise and always use units.
300 what? Units? Tons? Kilograms? Pounds? Milligrams? Ounces?
They also tell us to be precise in our determinations of mass. Is it 99%+ pure psuedo? So do you mean 300 whatever pseudo? So it could be 300 crushed psudoephedrine? So maybe it could be 300 kilograms of crushed sudafed tablets or maybe 300 crushed sudafed tablets? Big difference either way.
Also keep opsec in mind lads. Although somehow I don't think we have any feds here, so far. I haven't picked them up yet anyway, which is great.
Dude, you missed it ! non of them. It’s 300 tablets 🤨 just wondering why did you catch this part which is really far from what am asking for!! Did you mess up with dosing? 😜 -
2021-08-22 at 2:16 AM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.
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2021-08-20 at 4:25 PM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood you can also unscrew the cap of the bottle a bit, enough so liquid can come out but the solid heavy stuff stays in the bottle and tilt it at an angle kinda like pouring the good cream from the top of a container of spoiled cream with chunky solids at the bottom
So for 2400 mg PSE of 60mg around 40 pills what is the recommended amount of the fuel I need to mix in 2 Ltr bottle ?
I used to add 1 and 1\2 cup I think this is not enough. Pls advise. Thanks -
2021-08-20 at 3:55 PM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.
Originally posted by Alimemo I did new one using paint thinner as starting duel, no water added, PSE added later. After filtration got the same dark coffee color liquid I did not gas it yet coz I think I will get same garbage. How can I get fucking clear liquid to smoke it ?
Last night I read uncle foster book found this method explained in different way he did not mention any thing on building pressure but I got some useful info that will not help in one pot cook 🤨
This is what I got
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood maybe try fiiltering it more through some cotton balls. Are you just dumping the entire thing in the fiilter? You should try to pour it carefully try to avoid getting any solids or media in the fillter. Maybe you need more fuel at the end because if you use SODIUM HYDRODE/LYE/DRAIN CLEANER it will FREEBASE the meth into meth oil which dissolves in the fuel
you might not have enough fuel to dissolve it all so it's just picking up the crap with a bit of meth oil, if you add more fuel and it's still not floating to the top and staying dark color maybe try putting a vibrating dildo in the vessel and letting it vibrate for a bit to break up any emulsion.
Your pills also might have emulsifiers if you are just crushing them up and using the ground up pills without cleaning them first.
https://www.reddit.com/r/chemistry/comments/7wa3b9/breaking_emulsions/
salt water might help, i can't remember if meth freebase oil dissolves in water, i don't think it does?
sonification is the dildo, or more filltering. I suspect it's an emulsion or something along those lines.
"Saturated salt solution (brine, Na sulfate, etc.) or a splash of methanol have always worked for me except for the very worst emulsions, in which case filltration or sonication are the only options."
Yes I pour everything in the enhancement and it take long time to enhancement, also I did not clean the PSE powder. Exactly I got meth oil I did try adding water it did not mix I noticed semi clear layer at the top. Tonight I’ll hit another try and use sep funnel. Hope it work -
2021-08-20 at 1:15 PM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood the lithium is supposed to be eaten up, an ideal scenario is having no solid floating bits at the end but it's known to happen. Black color/grey/dark blue is good that is one indicator that the lithium and ammonia are reacting, it's supposed to turn to dark cloudy colors.
For FUEL you can use acetone, toluene any "non polar solvent" (look that up). Break cleaner fluid might actually be fucking something up if its tetrachloroetylene i think that messes with the reaction.
It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong, if it's getting hot and turning black and eating through the bottle that sounds like it should be working
you got no product when you gassed the fuel?
I did new one using paint thinner as starting duel, no water added, PSE added later. After filtration got the same dark coffee color liquid I did not gas it yet coz I think I will get same garbage. How can I get fucking clear liquid to smoke it ?
Last night I read uncle foster book found this method explained in different way he did not mention any thing on building pressure but I got some useful info that will not help in one pot cook 🤨 -
2021-08-19 at 1:21 PM UTC in How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.Hello Experts,
PLEASE HELP !! i did every step successfully I put water before pouring last can of fuel, then lithium, and lye, reaction start perfectly after a while I add another dose of water and lye the reaction continue perfectly. my issues are :
1- After a while with shaking Lithium strips disappeared in the mix ?
2- the whole mix turned to tea milk color and never settle to clear even I kept it to settle over night
3- Due to reaction heat and reaction with soda bottle the bottle got a hole from the side then torn apart. BIG MESS !!
I messed up two patches with same issues, first patch turned to BLACK color and second to thick tea milk mix what is wrong ?
* i am using Carburettor cleaner can as a fuel coz where I live don't use starting fuel so its not available ( ANY OTHER SUGGESTION)
* Two Lithium batteries
* PSeudo, lye, ammonia nitrate ….
Please help me I have 300 PSeudo left for third trial, hope to reach smoking part and celebrate the white snow.