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How to learn to cook meth Part 2 - Cleaning Pseudoephedrine Pills

  1. #1
    All credit goes to tramp for writeup, RIP.

    Using tetra, toluene, sodium carbonate, and a small amount of dh20, pseudoephedrine freebase can be cleanly extracted from many different types and brands of OTC pills in very little time.
    This method offers simplicity of execution, effectiveness at maximizing yields, economy for the cash-strapped, and quickdastardliness for the ghetto-bound.

    Pills – any OTC pseudoephedrine compilation (with pseudoephedrine as the only active ingredient). Includes: 30mg “Red Hots”, 120mg “12-hour” name brand and generics, 240mg “24-hour” name brand. Pills exist as such only long enough to waltz with washing soda (sodium carbonate) in a blender on high.

    MATERIALS
    o Beaker – 400ml
    o Other heat proof glassware for evaporating or cooling solvent
    o Hot plate
    o Safety glasses, latex gloves
    o enhancement paper or coffee enhancements or cotton balls
    o Glass or wood stirring implement (1/2 of a wooden clothespin is splendid)

    - Chemicals –

    Tetrachloroethylene (brake cleaner, red can (not green) at your local skunk-boys auto supply.)
    Toluene or VM&P Naphtha (if you enjoy evaporating solvents, choose Toluene. If you are safety conscious and have some extra time, choose VM&P and chill instead of evaporate).
    Sodium Carbonate (washing soda, ph minus pool stuff at dome hepot ).
    DH20 (tap works as well)

    - Abstract of Procedure –

    Grind pills with sodium carbonate in a blender
    Dump formed powder into beaker
    Saturate powder with tetrachloroethylene
    Pour toluene into beaker until the toluene stands about 1” above the pill mass
    Heat thoroughly while stirring (let the heat from the bottom transfer into the toluene long enough to bring just to boiling point.
    Decant liquid from solids through a cotton ball or other suitable enhancement.
    Evaporate decanted solvent (Toluene) or Chill (VM&P) to precipitate freebase crystals.

    - Standard Procedure -

    1. Combine approximately the same volume of sodium carbonate as unground pill volume: put the pills in the blender, grab a handful of carbonate and toss an eyeballed estimate on top of the pills. A reasonable approximation for 1 box of 96 30mg “red hots” would be about 2.5- 3 tablespoons. Cover the blender, run on high for about 1 minute. Let stand 5 minutes before removing lid.
    2. pour the powder created in step 1 into a dry glass beaker – the dry pill mass should not be more than 1/3 of the beaker volume.
    3. Carefully hose the powder-in-beaker from step 2 with tetrachloroethylene straight from the can. Hint: direct the stream to the upper part of the beaker onto the glass wall to prevent scattering your dry pill mass. Otherwise, spray the tetra in a glass first, then pour into the beaker. Saturate the pill mass: this means that all of the powder should be wet, but there should be no free-running tetra. Tip the beaker just to make sure that the tetra doesn’t run. The mass should be one glorious whole. If you added to much tetra, the application of heat at this point is prudent – not only to evaporate the extra tetra, but to drive the tetra into the powder more thoroughly. 120mg pills can soak up quite a bit of tetra, so saturate, heat, and add more tetra until you reach this point of saturation. Extra tetra can be soaked up easily from the top of the pill mass with a couple of cotton balls.
    4. pour toluene into the beaker until the level of toluene is approximately 1” above the pill mass. This will vary with the overall magnitude of the extraction you are performing – experiment with 3 boxes of 96, using this one-inch approach. You have the option of using VM&P naphtha at this point instead of the toluene – in the precipitation stage, you’ll chill the naptha to crash the crystals. You’ll evap the toluene. Evaping hydrocarbon solvents is nasty business. Just ask Geez. The naptha chill takes 1-2 hours, possibly endangering your position. Your pays yo’ money, you takes yo’ shot.
    5. add a dash of water. (for 3 boxes of 96, use 2 tablespoons). Start with little h20 – you can always add more toluene and another shot of h20 if you want to try another pull. You’ll screw the whole gig if you add too much h20 for the first pull.
    6. Apply heat gently while stirring until the contents of the beaker are at the boiling point, then back off. Practice makes perfect. Keep the temperature just below that boiling point for 2 minutes (4 minutes if using 120mg 12-hour pills). Stir continuously with appropriate implement.
    7. Remove beaker from heat source and let settle for 1 minute.
    8. decant all liquid from beaker into a suitable heat-resistant glass pan, bowl, etc. Visionware rules the roost. You may choose to decant through a enhancement/funnel, or just keep a cotton ball at the lip of the beaker as you pour.
    9. Evap the toluene on low heat for clean crystals easily lifted. Or if using VM&P naphtha, place in freezer for 2 hours, enhancement, and place the crystals on a coffee enhancement to dry.

    Micro crystalline cellulose precipitates out of cold xylene, preboil in straight xylene will remove the bulk of it right away. throw this out or distill it to recover the solvents.
    proceed with standard anhydrous extraction into xylene/tetra using Na2CO3
    reflux it for a good long time then enhancement it fast and gas it hot
    enhancement it hot
    rinse it with cold dry mek
    recrystallize it from mek/water
    then again if you want from either water or an alcohol and acetone.

    Investigate the solubility of your particular set of inactives against possibly toluene.
    different solvents have slightly different characteristics
    some report good results adding about 25% naphtha to the xylene preboil
    sometimes pills have unlisted gaaks in them.
    pills are hard.

    toluene has lower boiling point than xylene but its thinner and more aromatic
    its a more selective solvent than xylene
    xylene is real aggressive, eats plastic and wax.

    Toluene is real nice for extracting final product into
    xylene is best all around pill extraction solvent.
    Ethyl acetate works really well, too but it needs to be mixed about 10% with ethanol for best effect
    and crystallization of the HCl back out of the azeotrope is a pain in the ass

    xylene is generally best.

    Avoid water and avoid reagents with really high pH... that is, avoid KOH and NaOH with pills as the high pH activates certain gaaks... or so they say...Na2CO3 is plenty high enough pH but doesn't seem to effect the gaaks... water sets the gaaks loco! avoid water unless you can duplicate the human digestive tract in the lab... i mean, people do swallow these pills and the shit does wind up in their blood... so if the body can separate it, so can we, but water methods normally result in a mass of plastic goop... alcohols are treacherous as well...

    (not Pseudoephedrine extraction but still pretty useful info)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdTc1AFTKZ0

    https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/pdf/pseudoephedrine.us6359011.pdf
    https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.waterless.html
    https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.fullturps.html
    https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.smackdown.html
    https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straightbee.html
    https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straight-e.html
    http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/crystal/000468062
  2. #2
    plumpkatt1 Yung Blood
    Found this n thought I'd share it. What do u think?

    New Clean Gassing Method!

    Gassing is a love hate kind of thing and none of the current methods seem to
    perform consistently or safely. Some methods make too much and some make too
    little. Most are difficult to control, more importantly difucult to stop. SWIVE
    has rusted more tools and electronic equipment than he cares to think of. Had a
    gassing bottle blow up once (hose clogged suddenly, while he wasn't watching) and
    suck back can ruin your whole day. Most drain cleaner Sulfuric Acid contains
    foaming additives that create a dangerous mess.

    I have tried all the various gassing methods ie: Sulfuric Acid & Salt, Sulfuric
    Acid & HCL, Aluminum & HCL, Air bubbled through HCL, but I've never been totally
    happy with any of them. The methods using Sulfuric Acid always taste and/or smell
    funny. The Aluminum & HCL is wet, week, messy and generates too much heat. The
    Air bubbled through HCL is clean but is a little slow for SWIVE's taste. So SWIVE
    started thinking how could he improve the process. After all we're just trying to
    seperate the HCL from the water, right?

    Introducing -> HCL over calcium chloride! Now before you start to whine about how
    this won't work like your current method, try this.

    Materials

    (1) Plastic Wash Bottle
    (1) Box of Damp Rid (calcium chloride)
    Muratic Acid (HCL)
    Something that needs gassing

    Method

    Take the plastic wash bottle and remove the center tube that runs to the bottom.
    Fill the bottle 1/3 full of Damp Rid. Now carefully add muratic acid until about
    2/3 of the Damp Rid is covered. Let this sit for 2 minutes. Your Done!

    Usage

    To gas you simply squeeze the wash bottle, thats right, insert the tip of the
    wash bottle into whatever your gassing and squeeze. pull the tip out before the
    end of the squeeze to avoid sucking whatever your gassing into the bottle. Repeat
    as needed. You will be surprised at the concentration and dryness of the HCL
    produced. You will also be surprised at how long that small amount of muratic
    acid will last. Just shake the bottle every now and then and it will keep coming.
    One fill usually lasts SWIVE several rxn's until a refill is needed. Clean,
    simple, controllable and no liquid acid to accidenly spill or leak into your
    product.

    SWIVE used TFSE and did not see a mention of this method, so he thinks it is
    original (pat on the back) Now where's the Hive Patent Office.

    http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/newbee/000265010.html
  3. #3
    Gassing there are lots of different ways to do this with different chemicals but its all very simple, I like the aluminum foil ball method. Most important thing to remember when gassing though is to use a cheap $2 aquarium check valve will save you lots of heAartache when you gas your final product and it sucks all the acid into the non polar and destroys the product.



    or you can just use a trap.
  4. #4
    plumpkatt1 Yung Blood
    Is this really Muriatic Acid? Will it work? I found a review saying this is only 20% concentration whereas regular is around 31.5%.

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Klean-Strip-Green-Muriatic-Acid-Gallon/20531315

    Post last edited by plumpkatt1 at 2017-01-07T23:50:26.318251+00:00
  5. #5
    It probably just has water or something in it.
  6. #6
    cerakote African Astronaut
    are the fumes produced from chilling toxic?

    i dont want to put this in a freezer full of food and end up killing myself and my dad
  7. #7
    Chilling what?.

    The only thing you will ever put in the freezer is pseudoephedrine/MA recrystallized from acetone and the container is sealed so there no vapor.
  8. #8
    kroz weak whyte, frothy cuck, and former twink
    cleaning pseudophed is childs play , can't you just buy ephedrine tabs and clean the guaf off of it?
  9. #9
    Millions of dollars has been spent to make the pills extraction proof, its impossible to make it 100% proof but at the moment it takes lots of work and stops 95% of people dead in their tracks and makes it So shake and bake fucks up and makes more toxic byproducts.
  10. #10
    scronaldo j bump
  11. #11
    donutshop Yung Blood
    THIS IS supposed to impress those of us who actualy managed to whip up decent crank from one pot methods WITHOUT reverting to biker-era michelobe-extra commercial times in which we had to de-gakk our pills using wasteful processes long before reduction took place? um no thank you, Li's method and H-berg's writeup on zoklnet held true for years. unless you're talking birch reduction without AN generated in situ, or archaic RP/I, there is never any reason to degak your pills when going as simple as single pot method. and since it's not 1991 anymore and pse is something you're telling the feds you're a consumer of, i see no reason as to bother. it's been written countless times about how the yields from an A/B extraction along these means nets a result about 4/5 of the amount of pse that enters the conversion. unlike snb, which converts nearly if not all of it.

    who wants to gas their shit twice? and how does one return the hcl to a base for the final reduction? not me. and i always had good yeilds.

    but then again i'm a prick and didn't actually read this entire long rambling post, for I saw no point in it.

    guess totse2 was where the true visionaries were at.

    have fun pretending like it's 1988 again boys. make us some MCAT if that's the route you're so intent on pursuing. seems like a fun lil diversion
  12. #12
    RP/I may be outdated but at least you won't blow up your entire apartment building doing it
  13. #13
    Originally posted by donutshop THIS IS supposed to impress those of us who actualy managed to whip up decent crank from one pot methods WITHOUT reverting to biker-era michelobe-extra commercial times in which we had to de-gakk our pills using wasteful processes long before reduction took place? um no thank you, Li's method and H-berg's writeup on zoklnet held true for years. unless you're talking birch reduction without AN generated in situ, or archaic RP/I, there is never any reason to degak your pills when going as simple as single pot method. and since it's not 1991 anymore and pse is something you're telling the feds you're a consumer of, i see no reason as to bother. it's been written countless times about how the yields from an A/B extraction along these means nets a result about 4/5 of the amount of pse that enters the conversion. unlike snb, which converts nearly if not all of it.

    who wants to gas their shit twice? and how does one return the hcl to a base for the final reduction? not me. and i always had good yeilds.

    but then again i'm a prick and didn't actually read this entire long rambling post, for I saw no point in it.

    guess totse2 was where the true visionaries were at.

    have fun pretending like it's 1988 again boys. make us some MCAT if that's the route you're so intent on pursuing. seems like a fun lil diversion

    How is it wasteful lol it takes 1 day of processing and gives you clean feedstock. Garbage in = garbage out
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