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How to learn to cook meth Part 1 - The Shake and Bake.
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2021-08-19 at 2:30 PM UTCLOL ANGRY IV LITERALLY SEEETHING
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2021-08-19 at 2:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Alimemo Hello Experts,
PLEASE HELP !! i did every step successfully I put water before pouring last can of fuel, then lithium, and lye, reaction start perfectly after a while I add another dose of water and lye the reaction continue perfectly. my issues are :
1- After a while with shaking Lithium strips disappeared in the mix ?
2- the whole mix turned to tea milk color and never settle to clear even I kept it to settle over night
3- Due to reaction heat and reaction with soda bottle the bottle got a hole from the side then torn apart. BIG MESS !!
I messed up two patches with same issues, first patch turned to BLACK color and second to thick tea milk mix what is wrong ?
* i am using Carburettor cleaner can as a fuel coz where I live don't use starting fuel so its not available ( ANY OTHER SUGGESTION)
* Two Lithium batteries
* PSeudo, lye, ammonia nitrate ….
Please help me I have 300 PSeudo left for third trial, hope to reach smoking part and celebrate the white snow.
the lithium is supposed to be eaten up, an ideal scenario is having no solid floating bits at the end but it's known to happen. Black color/grey/dark blue is good that is one indicator that the lithium and ammonia are reacting, it's supposed to turn to dark cloudy colors.
For FUEL you can use acetone, toluene any "non polar solvent" (look that up). Break cleaner fluid might actually be fucking something up if its tetrachloroetylene i think that messes with the reaction.
It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong, if it's getting hot and turning black and eating through the bottle that sounds like it should be working
you got no product when you gassed the fuel? -
2021-08-19 at 10:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by Alimemo Hello Experts,
PLEASE HELP !! i did every step successfully I put water before pouring last can of fuel, then lithium, and lye, reaction start perfectly after a while I add another dose of water and lye the reaction continue perfectly. my issues are :
1- After a while with shaking Lithium strips disappeared in the mix ?
2- the whole mix turned to tea milk color and never settle to clear even I kept it to settle over night
3- Due to reaction heat and reaction with soda bottle the bottle got a hole from the side then torn apart. BIG MESS !!
I messed up two patches with same issues, first patch turned to BLACK color and second to thick tea milk mix what is wrong ?
* i am using Carburettor cleaner can as a fuel coz where I live don't use starting fuel so its not available ( ANY OTHER SUGGESTION)
* Two Lithium batteries
* PSeudo, lye, ammonia nitrate ….
Please help me I have 300 PSeudo left for third trial, hope to reach smoking part and celebrate the white snow.
Send message to me i can teach you. -
2021-08-20 at 1:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood the lithium is supposed to be eaten up, an ideal scenario is having no solid floating bits at the end but it's known to happen. Black color/grey/dark blue is good that is one indicator that the lithium and ammonia are reacting, it's supposed to turn to dark cloudy colors.
For FUEL you can use acetone, toluene any "non polar solvent" (look that up). Break cleaner fluid might actually be fucking something up if its tetrachloroetylene i think that messes with the reaction.
It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong, if it's getting hot and turning black and eating through the bottle that sounds like it should be working
you got no product when you gassed the fuel?
I did new one using paint thinner as starting duel, no water added, PSE added later. After filtration got the same dark coffee color liquid I did not gas it yet coz I think I will get same garbage. How can I get fucking clear liquid to smoke it ?
Last night I read uncle foster book found this method explained in different way he did not mention any thing on building pressure but I got some useful info that will not help in one pot cook 🤨 -
2021-08-20 at 3:16 PM UTCmaybe try fiiltering it more through some cotton balls. Are you just dumping the entire thing in the fiilter? You should try to pour it carefully try to avoid getting any solids or media in the fillter. Maybe you need more fuel at the end because if you use SODIUM HYDRODE/LYE/DRAIN CLEANER it will FREEBASE the meth into meth oil which dissolves in the fuel
you might not have enough fuel to dissolve it all so it's just picking up the crap with a bit of meth oil, if you add more fuel and it's still not floating to the top and staying dark color maybe try putting a vibrating dildo in the vessel and letting it vibrate for a bit to break up any emulsion.
Your pills also might have emulsifiers if you are just crushing them up and using the ground up pills without cleaning them first.
https://www.reddit.com/r/chemistry/comments/7wa3b9/breaking_emulsions/
salt water might help, i can't remember if meth freebase oil dissolves in water, i don't think it does?
sonification is the dildo, or more filltering. I suspect it's an emulsion or something along those lines.
"Saturated salt solution (brine, Na sulfate, etc.) or a splash of methanol have always worked for me except for the very worst emulsions, in which case filltration or sonication are the only options."
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2021-08-20 at 3:21 PM UTCthe fuel should float to the top at the end and be easy to separate from the teamilk reaction vessel medium
the only thing I can think of that would cause it to not work is something in the pills turning the solvent into jello, it's been known to happen. If it KEEPS happening maybe it's the pills or something with your method, shaking creates emulsions so it's pretty common but usually not bad enough to kill reaction workup
Originally posted by Ghost Extracting pills has become quite a chore. The ephedrine supplement pills are a lot easier than OTC cold medicine.
You still have to deal with the usual suspects like starch, magnesium stearate, microcrystalline cellulose and dyes but the ephedrine pills aren't usually formulated with weird hidden binders.
If you treat them like regular Sudafed you should get a clean extraction. Just make sure you follow a guide written in the past few years, any variation of the tetra trap should work
Best basifying agent is sodium carbonate, make it easily by putting baking soda in the oven at a high temp and gassing off the CO2. Don't use any water or strong bases like lye, it will set off hidden binders (gak) that will turn it into jello that doesn't dissolve in solvents
Or you could just crush the pills and not clean them if you're lazy. -
2021-08-20 at 3:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by kzs
The lithium reaction is finally done! I think its ok.
Now I have problem with the Pse hcl pills those are very bad,, low yield. (cant clean them)
No good pse pills here in this country…
I tried before with ephedrine hcl powder (almost clean) but that time the lithium reaction wasnt complete (was cracked bottle, week pressure) no yield then.
Ghost, my question is: ephedrine hcl it will work with shake and bake?? I did some research and some guys says at another forum it dosent work.
(I dont know is it true or not)
ephedrine hcl is my last chance..
It will work? What do you think?
Thanks
lol@ this guy cooking meth in a sodastream jar in a barnThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-08-20 at 3:26 PM UTCThe reason they say ephedrine doesn't work and you need PSEUDOephedrine is because the PSEUDO part of pseudoephedrine has a proton and you need a proton donor for the birch reaction to work and apparently it doesn't have enough protons if you just use ephedrine
It's an old wives tail though I don't think it was ever confirmed. Also there are plenty of solvents with protons i think if you added toluene and ephedrine it would work. That's where that "myth" comes from. Although in clandestine science it's hard to prove anything it's not like there's a published medical journal for drug cooks.
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2021-08-20 at 3:30 PM UTCoh yeah I forgot about lye gak that is a very real and common thing which killed a lot of the shake and bake industry because most pills have lye gak that turn into jello when you add a strong base. Most common in big brand name american pills
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2021-08-20 at 3:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by Alimemo I did new one using paint thinner as starting duel, no water added, PSE added later. After filtration got the same dark coffee color liquid I did not gas it yet coz I think I will get same garbage. How can I get fucking clear liquid to smoke it ?
Last night I read uncle foster book found this method explained in different way he did not mention any thing on building pressure but I got some useful info that will not help in one pot cook 🤨
This is what I got
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood maybe try fiiltering it more through some cotton balls. Are you just dumping the entire thing in the fiilter? You should try to pour it carefully try to avoid getting any solids or media in the fillter. Maybe you need more fuel at the end because if you use SODIUM HYDRODE/LYE/DRAIN CLEANER it will FREEBASE the meth into meth oil which dissolves in the fuel
you might not have enough fuel to dissolve it all so it's just picking up the crap with a bit of meth oil, if you add more fuel and it's still not floating to the top and staying dark color maybe try putting a vibrating dildo in the vessel and letting it vibrate for a bit to break up any emulsion.
Your pills also might have emulsifiers if you are just crushing them up and using the ground up pills without cleaning them first.
https://www.reddit.com/r/chemistry/comments/7wa3b9/breaking_emulsions/
salt water might help, i can't remember if meth freebase oil dissolves in water, i don't think it does?
sonification is the dildo, or more filltering. I suspect it's an emulsion or something along those lines.
"Saturated salt solution (brine, Na sulfate, etc.) or a splash of methanol have always worked for me except for the very worst emulsions, in which case filltration or sonication are the only options."
Yes I pour everything in the enhancement and it take long time to enhancement, also I did not clean the PSE powder. Exactly I got meth oil I did try adding water it did not mix I noticed semi clear layer at the top. Tonight I’ll hit another try and use sep funnel. Hope it work -
2021-08-20 at 3:59 PM UTCyou can also unscrew the cap of the bottle a bit, enough so liquid can come out but the solid heavy stuff stays in the bottle and tilt it at an angle kinda like pouring the good cream from the top of a container of spoiled cream with chunky solids at the bottom
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2021-08-20 at 4:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood you can also unscrew the cap of the bottle a bit, enough so liquid can come out but the solid heavy stuff stays in the bottle and tilt it at an angle kinda like pouring the good cream from the top of a container of spoiled cream with chunky solids at the bottom
So for 2400 mg PSE of 60mg around 40 pills what is the recommended amount of the fuel I need to mix in 2 Ltr bottle ?
I used to add 1 and 1\2 cup I think this is not enough. Pls advise. Thanks -
2021-08-22 at 2:16 AM UTC
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2021-08-22 at 4:07 AM UTC
Originally posted by Alimemo So for 2400 mg PSE of 60mg around 40 pills what is the recommended amount of the fuel I need to mix in 2 Ltr bottle ?
I used to add 1 and 1\2 cup I think this is not enough. Pls advise. Thanks
that sounds right maybe a bit more, it doesn't have to be perfect. the fuel doesn't really do much. The more you use the more risk it has of catching fire if the lithium sparks up so there is that to consider too -
2021-08-22 at 4:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by Alimemo I have 300 PSeudo
First thing they tell us in organic chemistry is to be precise and always use units.
300 what? Units? Tons? Kilograms? Pounds? Milligrams? Ounces?
They also tell us to be precise in our determinations of mass. Is it 99%+ pure psuedo? So do you mean 300 whatever pseudo? So it could be 300 crushed psudoephedrine? So maybe it could be 300 kilograms of crushed sudafed tablets or maybe 300 crushed sudafed tablets? Big difference either way.
Also keep opsec in mind lads. Although somehow I don't think we have any feds here, so far. I haven't picked them up yet anyway, which is great. -
2021-08-22 at 4:50 AM UTC
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2021-08-22 at 4:52 AM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump First thing they tell us in organic chemistry is to be precise and always use units.
300 what? Units? Tons? Kilograms? Pounds? Milligrams? Ounces?
They also tell us to be precise in our determinations of mass. Is it 99%+ pure psuedo? So do you mean 300 whatever pseudo? So it could be 300 crushed psudoephedrine? So maybe it could be 300 kilograms of crushed sudafed tablets or maybe 300 crushed sudafed tablets? Big difference either way.
Also keep opsec in mind lads. Although somehow I don't think we have any feds here, so far. I haven't picked them up yet anyway, which is great.
the federal government does not give a SHIT about shake and bake meth lmao. It's so fucking dead and old, 99% of meth comes from cartel superlabs. Most of the people making it themselves in amounts less than an ounce are doing it themselves
They have real criminals to catch they wouldnt waste their time on someone with 100 boxes of pills thats a local PD issue. -
2021-08-22 at 9:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump First thing they tell us in organic chemistry is to be precise and always use units.
300 what? Units? Tons? Kilograms? Pounds? Milligrams? Ounces?
They also tell us to be precise in our determinations of mass. Is it 99%+ pure psuedo? So do you mean 300 whatever pseudo? So it could be 300 crushed psudoephedrine? So maybe it could be 300 kilograms of crushed sudafed tablets or maybe 300 crushed sudafed tablets? Big difference either way.
Also keep opsec in mind lads. Although somehow I don't think we have any feds here, so far. I haven't picked them up yet anyway, which is great.
Dude, you missed it ! non of them. It’s 300 tablets 🤨 just wondering why did you catch this part which is really far from what am asking for!! Did you mess up with dosing? 😜 -
2021-08-22 at 3:44 PM UTCShake and bake method is pain in the ass I spend almost a week try and error, spend the price of 30 gram meth street price and the final product never get dry it’s oily non smokable and leaving garbage in the pipe despite the nasty test.
I don’t inject I like the experience mood of meth smoking what to do ?!! Is anyone can get smokable meth out of shake and bake method ? -
2021-08-22 at 3:48 PM UTCyou might have better results if you clean the pills but that's an entire beast of it's own
https://niggasin.space/thread/6585
