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2017-04-07 at 3:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by Dargo I believe in the Bible because it is a reliable source of historical information. I agree with you; that's circular reasoning, and blind faith is fucking stupid.
As are many others. I just wonder why people believe in the bible as infallible and "God-breathed" other than that they essentially HAVE TO to support their claims. -
2017-04-07 at 4 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Well, then it was very silly of God to create something that would ruin his perfect world. Unless his perfect world is this shithole we call earth in which case God is cruel and therefore not God.
First of all, why is God not God if he's cruel?
Second, freewill. And, God promises to fix everything, so it's not like it's shit forever. -
2017-04-07 at 4:01 AM UTC
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2017-04-07 at 4:03 AM UTC
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2017-04-07 at 4:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra -that was a shit article-
http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/abramovic-rhythm-0-l03651
Oh Spirit Cooking. Say no more. -
2017-04-07 at 4:05 AM UTCno, same woman but spirit cooking is completely unrelated
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2017-04-07 at 4:07 AM UTC
Originally posted by Dargo First of all, why is God not God if he's cruel?
Because God is supposed to be good. You said so yourself.
Originally posted by Dargo If God represents everything good, as Christians believe
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2017-04-07 at 4:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ I don't. I agreed with you. There are many reliable historical documents, Bible included, to an extent.
Now answer my question.
Oh my bad.
The thing is with the Bible is that it's somewhat of an all or nothing deal. It says directly in there that the scripture is 'God breathed' (2 Timothy 3:16-17), and because everything is intertwined, you can't cherry pick your way through. -
2017-04-07 at 4:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Because God is supposed to be good. You said so yourself.
https://niggasin.space/post/140155
I thought you were asking from an outside perspective. Yeah, God's good. -
2017-04-07 at 4:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by Dargo Oh my bad.
The thing is with the Bible is that it's somewhat of an all or nothing deal. It says directly in there that the scripture is 'God breathed' (2 Timothy 3:16-17), and because everything is intertwined, you can't cherry pick your way through.
That's exactly where the circular logic you just said you're opposed to, begins.
I can write a book, pass it around to people, and in the book, as the author, I say, "I am God, you are my creations, you need to worship me and love me and you get to go to heaven." If I handed you that book, right now, would you change your mind about the Christian God and start worshipping me? -
2017-04-07 at 4:12 AM UTC
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2017-04-07 at 4:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ That's exactly where the circular logic you just said you're opposed to, begins.
I can write a book, pass it around to people, and in the book, as the author, I say, "I am God, you are my creations, you need to worship me and love me and you get to go to heaven." If I handed you that book, right now, would you change your mind about the Christian God and start worshipping me?
No, because that book would not be founded on historical facts. It'd just be something you pulled out of your ass. -
2017-04-07 at 4:15 AM UTC
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2017-04-07 at 4:16 AM UTC
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2017-04-07 at 4:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie What is your standard of proof for "historical fact" an old book?
Something that is directly verifiable, or dictated through multiple reliable eyewitness testimonies.
Originally posted by mmQ This is the correct question here. If I wrote a book with a bunch of historical facts in it and also included that I was your real God, would you believe me?
No, because the fact you were God would just be thrown in there and unsupported. -
2017-04-07 at 4:20 AM UTCThe tough thing about religious debates is that everyone has very ingrained beliefs and it's almost laughable to imagine you, or your "opponent" ever saying "wow, that's a good point, I'm no longer a ______."
It took me 28 years of life and a strange awakening to realize that my constant doubts in the existence of the Christian God were actually legitimate. Nobody could have ever just convinced me because I could always fall back on an 'I just know I feel it in my heart' response, which essentially is the be all end all Christian argument when it comes to actually demonstrating God's existence. You know you can't prove it, you know it can't be disproved, so "I JUST FEEL HIM" is the default logic behind said belief. -
2017-04-07 at 4:21 AM UTC
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2017-04-07 at 4:21 AM UTC
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2017-04-07 at 4:22 AM UTCtee-hee duplicate post by two different people
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2017-04-07 at 4:22 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ The tough thing about religious debates is that everyone has very ingrained beliefs and it's almost laughable to imagine you, or your "opponent" ever saying "wow, that's a good point, I'm no longer a ______."
It took me 28 years of life and a strange awakening to realize that my constant doubts in the existence of the Christian God were actually legitimate. Nobody could have ever just convinced me because I could always fall back on an 'I just know I feel it in my heart' response, which essentially is the be all end all Christian argument when it comes to actually demonstrating God's existence. You know you can't prove it, you know it can't be disproved, so "I JUST FEEL HIM" is the default logic behind said belief.
You're right. No one can prove God exists - in any capacity. But we can determine that is existence is the most probable option.
What was the turning point that made you lose your faith? Just curious.
