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  1. #21
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    it's not going to be long-term 'unification' without some major impetus but they are united specifically on this issue

    KSA used to be firmly aligned with the US, but lately they're a lot more like Turkey, trying to play both sides - if things continue to escalate, they will be forced to choose
  2. #22
    Originally posted by aldra much of the Muslim world is against them, even the major Sunni-Shiite powers are willing to put their differences aside over this.

    just because they're not immediately going all-in doesn't mean they're just idly standing by; even the militias and Yemen aren't using their higher-end weapons yet. they're intentionally escalating slowly to try and force the IDF to overextend itself. did you listen to/read any of the speakers at the Arab summit?

    if israel grants sovereignty to the Palestinian enclaves, they have hostile states full of militarised chimps they've been whipping for decades INSIDE their borders.

    if they give them citizenship, they get bred out of an ethnostate in a generation or two.

    if they continue to openly genocide them, they just give states like Iran, Turkey and Saudi Arabia common ground and unintentionally revive the pan-Arabism they were so afraid of, nevermind giving Iran influence through militias in all of their surrounding states.

    once it escalates past a certain point (which I think is inevitable) their only options are SAMSUNG OPTION or USS LIBERTY

    Sound take I wonder how much China's belt and road initiative will change this, maybe china will move into africa more, specifically the sahel region where they could take advantage of failing states (In the coup belt in particular) and loan them shitloads of money at high interest for oil drilling projects. US did it to the allies after WW2.
  3. #23
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by Kingoffrogs Sound take I wonder how much China's belt and road initiative will change this, maybe china will move into africa more, specifically the sahel region where they could take advantage of failing states (In the coup belt in particular) and loan them shitloads of money for oil drilling projects

    They don't 'loan' anything

    It's bait for a con game where they know the niggers have no financial sense whatsoever and as soon as they miss payments the chinks move in and take whatever they want.

    The same thing mobsters and that kike ceo fron sears did
  4. #24
    Originally posted by infinityshock They don't 'loan' anything

    It's bait for a con game where they know the niggers have no financial sense whatsoever and as soon as they miss payments the chinks move in and take whatever they want.

    The same thing mobsters and that kike ceo fron sears did

    Yes that's how they seize ports, via the debtor country defaulting on their loans
  5. #25
    Donald Trump Black Hole
    Kenya's fancy new Chinese railroad is causing massive financial problems. Who'd have thunk?
    https://adf-magazine.com/2023/11/kenyas-sgr-drives-up-debt-falls-short-on-profits/

    It's cruel to lend money to people you know will never be able to comfortably repay.
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  6. #26
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Originally posted by aldra it's not going to be long-term 'unification' without some major impetus but they are united specifically on this issue

    KSA used to be firmly aligned with the US, but lately they're a lot more like Turkey, trying to play both sides - if things continue to escalate, they will be forced to choose

    They've been united on the issue since 1948 and little progress has been made. Palestine will move unilaterally and it doesn't look like anyone else is rushing into the ring. They've all sat idly by while Israel committed atrocities, they're not going to go in unless hamas makes so much headway it looks like victory is inevitable
  7. #27
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by Kingoffrogs Yes that's how they seize ports, via the debtor country defaulting on their loans

    Airports...land...railway right-of-ways...entire villages.

    They 'offer' to build aiports, shipping ports, rail systems, mining facilities, and other infrastructure at inflated rates, use majority chinee workers, at supposed market interest rates, knowing full well the darkies are going to default
  8. #28
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by Donald Trump Kenya's fancy new Chinese railroad is causing massive financial problems. Who'd have thunk?
    https://adf-magazine.com/2023/11/kenyas-sgr-drives-up-debt-falls-short-on-profits/

    It's cruel to lend money to people you know will never be able to comfortably repay.

    It's intentional and the reason usury has been banned for longer in human civilization than it has been allowed. If there were no kikes there'd be no interest.

    I'm not getting into the basics of money lending...but the basis is for the lendee to default and the lender to make a big payout.

    You should see how large corporations do it.

    *cough* Eddie Lampert *cough*
  9. #29
    Originally posted by Donald Trump Kenya's fancy new Chinese railroad is causing massive financial problems. Who'd have thunk?
    https://adf-magazine.com/2023/11/kenyas-sgr-drives-up-debt-falls-short-on-profits/

    It's cruel to lend money to people you know will never be able to comfortably repay.

    i am blocked from accessing the site but let me guess, either the one who wrote that or somwone in the editorial has an 'early life' section.
  10. #30
    Originally posted by infinityshock Airports…land…railway right-of-ways…entire villages.

    They 'offer' to build aiports, shipping ports, rail systems, mining facilities, and other infrastructure at inflated rates, use majority chinee workers, at supposed market interest rates, knowing full well the darkies are going to default

    the people still get to enjoy these modern facilities irregardless of who owns them.

    the airport that chineses built for them is still a zillion times than what they have had with cargo cult-tier "air strip".

    a. fucking. zillion.
  11. #31
    Originally posted by infinityshock It's intentional and the reason usury has been banned for longer in human civilization than it has been allowed. If there were no kikes there'd be no interest.

    I'm not getting into the basics of money lending…but the basis is for the lendee to default and the lender to make a big payout.

    You should see how large corporations do it.

    *cough* Eddie Lampert *cough*

    the reason they banned ursury instead of money landing is because it drives the rate of interest even higher and moves the lending agreement into extra legal territory.

    its not about curbing the acts of charging interest, its to inflate the rate of interests.
  12. #32
    Cowboy2013 African Astronaut
    There have been a lot of stories in the past couple weeks about people getting caught with guns in Washington. Idk if this is the great satan's guilty conscience making it paranoid or some of these people were actually looking to do something.

    I can see a false flag in Detroit or something. Hamas shoots up a Detroit rent-a-wheel or nursing home in Idaho or something 🤡
  13. #33
    totse2118 Space Nigga [my ci light-haired pongee]
    Originally posted by Wariat Turkey could.

    Turkey is a slave
  14. #34
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny the people still get to enjoy these modern facilities irregardless of who owns them.

    the airport that chineses built for them is still a zillion times than what they have had with cargo cult-tier "air strip".

    a. fucking. zillion.

    that is totally not how it works. at all.
  15. #35
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny the reason they banned ursury instead of money landing is because it drives the rate of interest even higher and moves the lending agreement into extra legal territory.

    its not about curbing the acts of charging interest, its to inflate the rate of interests.

    that is not even close to the correct answer.
  16. #36
    infinityshock Black Hole
    Originally posted by Cowboy2013 There have been a lot of stories in the past couple weeks about people getting caught with guns in Washington. Idk if this is the great satan's guilty conscience making it paranoid or some of these people were actually looking to do something.

    I can see a false flag in Detroit or something. Hamas shoots up a Detroit rent-a-wheel or nursing home in Idaho or something 🤡

    yea...theres going to be a false flag of ham-bullah doing something fucked up during the holiday season...with the twist being it was coordinated by the j­ews with the intent of increasing US/western support

    *cough*lavon affair*cough*
  17. #37
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Sudo They've been united on the issue since 1948 and little progress has been made. Palestine will move unilaterally and it doesn't look like anyone else is rushing into the ring. They've all sat idly by while Israel committed atrocities, they're not going to go in unless hamas makes so much headway it looks like victory is inevitable

    two things:

    1. with the advent of social media, they don't have a stranglehold on the 'truth' no matter how many media companies they can buy out, financially or ideologically. support for israel gets lower every year because nobody believes Hamas is forcing them to bomb hospitals and refugee camps anymore. zoomers don't care about the holocaust; it 'happened' almost a century ago.

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-generation-gap-in-opinions-toward-israel/

    2. the US no longer has the juice to enforce israel's will across the middle east. 20-30 years ago nobody would dare openly bomb US bases, now it's a daily occurrence without a shred of ambiguity.


    after the previous wars the question was always 'sure, we don't like the Palestine situation but what can we do about it?'

    now there are a lot more options on the table. don't assume nothing is going to happen because they didn't all immediately start bombing Dimona.
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  18. #38
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Originally posted by aldra two things:

    1. with the advent of social media, they don't have a stranglehold on the 'truth' no matter how many media companies they can buy out, financially or ideologically. support for israel gets lower every year because nobody believes Hamas is forcing them to bomb hospitals and refugee camps anymore. zoomers don't care about the holocaust; it 'happened' almost a century ago.

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-generation-gap-in-opinions-toward-israel/

    2. the US no longer has the juice to enforce israel's will across the middle east. 20-30 years ago nobody would dare openly bomb US bases, now it's a daily occurrence without a shred of ambiguity.


    after the previous wars the question was always 'sure, we don't like the Palestine situation but what can we do about it?'

    now there are a lot more options on the table. don't assume nothing is going to happen because they didn't all immediately start bombing Dimona.

    I was just talking to a leb about public opinion on Israel and he says even "white news" outlets are submitting that Israel is losing the discourse and the idea of Netanyahu annexing gaza and putting checkpoints up sends shivers to all the regional powers. He thinks Israel will have others jump in if they continue with the atrocities much longer. Idky they'd wait until the gaza infrastructure is decimated though. Is it to avoid hitting friendly targets? How bad does it have to get for governments to anger Das j00? What's the tipping point if it's not hospital and refugee camp bombings?
  19. #39
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    I think part of it is to overextend and exhaust the IDF across multiple fronts so that they can be forced into some kind of political solution or, failing that, they'll be less-able to fight effectively when it comes to it.

    the other thing is allowing israel to go hogwild is causing popular support in the west to evaporate, and the only reason they've been able to swing their dicks around for so long is because of the US (and to a lesser extent, the EU and 'countries' like Canada and Australia) funding them, arming them and running political-media interference for them. the bulk of the US political apparatus may be pro-israel but they will have to be held accountable by their constituents to some degree as it becomes harder and harder to deny that they're desperately lashing out and targeting civilians. how is it even possible to inflict almost 50% of casualties as children?

    I've read recently that US fighter pilots actually flew for them in the six days war and were responsible for destroying Egypt's airforce and anti-air capability; no official confirmation but the whole thing happened during a 'combat pause' in Vietnam.
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  20. #40
    Originally posted by infinityshock that is totally not how it works. at all.



    Originally posted by infinityshock that is not even close to the correct answer.

    two wongs dont make a wright.
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