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  1. #81
    WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Always good to get the homeless population's input. How is business? Are you blocking up the footpath?

    What does it feel like to be completely emasculated by a female bully?
  2. #82
    Originally posted by SPLAT Oh so Oracle is Falcon? I figured but wasn’t sure.

    Pretty sure yeah. The avatar is a dead giveaway and also the preachy pseudo-intellectualism
  3. #83
    Originally posted by WellHung What does it feel like to be completely emasculated by a female bully?

    Don’t forget he’s also HIV positive
  4. #84
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Falcon will have $80 million, once he earns his PhD in physics and wins his 80 noble prizes.

    Time is all relative.
  5. #85
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by WellHung What does it feel like to be completely emasculated by a female bully?

    I ruined her career, made the whole company know, also have ransom material I can go public with, and I am now in a way better job.

    That's what happens when you're dealing with dumb-as-a-rock workplace psychopaths.

    Originally posted by Fox Don’t forget he’s also HIV positive

    I got tested not long ago, I'm not.
  6. #86
    ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Lets see that PhD first, genius.

    This is wrong by high school physics standards.
  7. #87
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    And the force exerted at the edge of our dimensional plane is formidable. Its force is actually exponential, in that the faster and/or harder you push against it, the more of the effect you experience; you are battling against yourself. The more you try, the harder and faster it pushes back. It's like trying to lift yourself up by the seat of your own pants. Impossible, by design.
  8. #88
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by ORACLE This is wrong by high school physics standards.

    Oh? Are the laws of physics invariant across the universe? If so try to explain why.

    Maybe Spectral has secret info about how things are at the edge.
  9. #89
    ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Oh? Are the laws of physics invariant across the universe? If so try to explain why.

    Maybe Spectral has secret info about how things are at the edge.

    Yes, Noether's theorem establishes conservation laws in our universe that mean that if it is in any way causally in the same realm of existence as us, the laws remain the same. Otherwise you have all sorts of energy conservation violations.

    Secondly we can observe the spectra of light from stellar objects near the edge of the observable universe, which were formed near the beginning of the universe, and the laws work just the same as they do for nearby objects.

    Edit: also the CMB is literally the "big bang backboard", the darkness is essentially the furthest, most redshifted part of the universe from the dawn of time. Guess what laws this radiation from all the way over there obeys?
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  10. #90
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    The one that gets me sometimes is if there were SUPER INTELLIGSNT people with advanced technology then they would have found us by now.

    It's kind of like the time traveling paradox since if someone foild time travel they already would have come back to us. Assuming we cant go into the future. Which would determine redetermination
  11. #91
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    When you travel in time, you are not actually travelling in this time. You are travelling in another time, another dimensional plane, and then returning to this one. It appears as if you have traveled back and forward through this plain, but it's actually another. There are multiple layers of similar realities all running concurrently, but not necessarily in the same time line, and usually not. It's usually not that makes time travel possible. You are basically breaking through into the next layer of existence, and it happens in the fraction of an instant. It's more like teleporting between dimensions than it is time travel. That's how the quantum world works. That's how a photon can be in two places at once simultaneously and can communicate with one another. All the layers are working together, as a giant machine. "Spooky action at a distance" is how Einstein put it.
  12. #92
    ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by mmQ The one that gets me sometimes is if there were SUPER INTELLIGSNT people with advanced technology then they would have found us by now.

    It's kind of like the time traveling paradox since if someone foild time travel they already would have come back to us. Assuming we cant go into the future. Which would determine redetermination

    Why? I think the likely answer to the Fermi Paradox is that interstellar travel is just hard as motherfuck.

    Honestly, the part of me that usually talks about science and tech is an optimist. But it's not my deepest and truest side. I really do think space travel will just be insanely hard. It's somewhat realistic for us to colonize our solar system in the next 5000 years. But beyond that, I think we might make it to the nearest stars for exploration missions and the like but that's around it. It's just gonna be too hard from an engineering perspective. Only way we break that is with truly well managed AGI doing all the heavy lifting.
  13. #93
    ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by -SpectraL When you travel in time, you are not actually travelling in this time. You are travelling in another time, another dimensional plane, and then returning to this one. It appears as if you have traveled back and forward through this plain, but it's actually another. There are multiple layers of similar realities all running concurrently, but not necessarily in the same time line, and usually not. It's usually not that makes time travel possible. You are basically breaking through into the next layer of existence, and it happens in the fraction of an instant. It's more like teleporting between dimensions than it is time travel. That's how the quantum world works. That's how a photon can be in two places at once simultaneously and can communicate with one another. All the layers are working together, as a giant machine. "Spooky action at a distance" is how Einstein put it.

    ^ This is wrong

    Also the photon can't be in two places at the same time.
  14. #94
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    You can travel interstellar and unlimited distances within this dimension also by jumping back and forth between levels. In this plane, you wouldn't have actually moved at all. You would just disappear from this plain, enter the other plain, and then exit the other plane after a certain duration, and you would find yourself at your destination - all in the blink of an eye.
  15. #95
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by ORACLE ^ This is wrong

    Also the photon can't be in two places at the same time.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement
    n experiments in 2012 and 2013, polarization correlation was created between photons that never coexisted in time.[51][52] The authors claimed that this result was achieved by entanglement swapping between two pairs of entangled photons after measuring the polarization of one photon of the early pair, and that it proves that quantum non-locality applies not only to space but also to time.

    In three independent experiments in 2013 it was shown that classically-communicated separable quantum states can be used to carry entangled states.[53] The first loophole-free Bell test was held in TU Delft in 2015 confirming the violation of Bell inequality.[54]

    In August 2014, Brazilian researcher Gabriela Barreto Lemos and team were able to "take pictures" of objects using photons that had not interacted with the subjects, but were entangled with photons that did interact with such objects. Lemos, from the University of Vienna, is confident that this new quantum imaging technique could find application where low light imaging is imperative, in fields like biological or medical imaging.[55]

    In 2015, Markus Greiner's group at Harvard performed a direct measurement of Renyi entanglement in a system of ultracold bosonic atoms.

    From 2016 various companies like IBM, Microsoft etc. have successfully created quantum computers and allowed developers and tech enthusiasts to openly experiment with concepts of quantum mechanics including quantum entanglement.[56]
  16. #96
    Originally posted by ORACLE Why? I think the likely answer to the Fermi Paradox is that interstellar travel is just hard as motherfuck.

    But human beings are kind of late to the party. If the universe is almost 14 billion years old, and sentient life evolved on earth in about 4 billion, that means there was plenty of time for potentially thousands of intelligent species to evolve before us and they’d have about a 8-10 billion year lead on us.

    At least one of these civilizations should have created automated drones to explore and map the universe within that time. It’s simply a problem of engineering, and given enough time (which they had), it should have been solved by now. Less likely that these beings would have the means to colonize every part of the universe themselves within that time. But even if they were just drones zipping by at significant fractions of the speed of light, you’d think we would have by now detected some kind of signal to indicate their existence if they were so ubiquitous.

    I personally think the most likely answer is that once a civilization reaches a certain level of technological advancement, they upload their minds to a digital world and lose all interest in reality. The ones that choose not to die off due to being unable to compete for resources with a hyper intelligent race of supercomputer-people.

    I have a half-assed pet theory about this, that dark matter/energy is actually some kind of super advanced cloud computing system created by an ancient civilization that has since expanded to permeate the entire known universe over billions of years to increase processing power/memory capacity. All we have to do is learn to tap into it as others have. Obviously there’s no evidence to support this theory, it’s more like the plot to a sci fi novel at this point
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  17. #97
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    We and the animals and the plant life are the only life in the entire Cosmos. The only other life is the angelic creatures that reside in another dimension, or marooned here on Earth, which are all of the same race. It's just us and them and God. No other life forms exist. The entire Cosmos is just for us to behold, to prove beyond all doubt the might and power and wisdom of the Creator.
  18. #98
    Originally posted by -SpectraL We and the animals and the plant life are the only life in the entire Cosmos. The only other life is the angelic creatures that reside in another dimension, or marooned here on Earth, which are all of the same race. It's just us and them and God. No other life forms exist. The entire Cosmos is just for us to behold, to prove beyond all doubt the might and power and wisdom of the Creator.

    You literally belong in a mental hospital
  19. #99
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Originally posted by Fox You literally belong in a mental hospital

    Who's to say he hasn't been in one since 1989?
  20. Because he would only get like an hour a week of computer-time, if at all
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