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2019-08-29 at 12:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist The alt right should hate the El Paso shooter. If he hadn’t posted his paper on 8chan, the bigots would still have their platform.
Do commies hate the Bäder Meinhof gang?
The alt right should not aplogise. If you apologised you lose.
When have jedis or Muslims or blacks or gays ever apologised for ... anything?
Originally posted by Technologist If that is the case, they are breaking the law. Big difference between discrimination, and protecting your company from possible law suits.
8chan hasn't been sued. Neutral Harbor provisions apply to neutral platforms, such as this one. -
2019-08-29 at 12:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Do commies hate the Bäder Meinhof gang?
The alt right should not aplogise. If you apologised you lose.
When have jedis or Muslims or blacks or gays ever apologised for … anything?
What does apologizing have to do with my general opinion??? I’m just stating a fact. This shooting and manifesto has spurred all this.8chan hasn't been sued. Neutral Harbor provisions apply to neutral platforms, such as this one.
I didn’t say they’ve been sued. I’m saying their host could be sued.
Net neutrality:Network neutrality, or simply net neutrality, is the principle that Internet service providers (ISPs) must treat all Internet communications equally, and not discriminate or charge differently based on user, content, website, platform, application, type of equipment, or method of communication.
Again, discrimination is totally different than stopping something that has shown to cause terrorism. Don’t think the American people’s outrage can’t cause these people to be leaned on hard, and they are forced to take some kind of action. Just how it is. -
2019-08-29 at 12:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist What does apologizing have to do with my general opinion??? I’m just stating a fact. This shooting and manifesto has spurred all this.
I didn’t say they’ve been sued. I’m saying their host could be sued.
Net neutrality:
Again, discrimination is totally different than stopping something that has shown to cause terrorism. Don’t think the American people’s outrage can’t cause these people to be leaned on hard, and they are forced to take some kind of action. Just how it is.
No. Just no. None of that is true, and I'm not going to bother explaining why. I mean what mass shooting did Alex Jones inspire?
Your opinions aren't even internally consistent. It's just whatever is convenient to the jedis in charge. I mean what do you gain from any of these views? Who represents you? -
2019-08-29 at 1 PM UTC
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2019-08-29 at 1:01 PM UTC
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2019-08-29 at 1:01 PM UTCKill yourself retard you are so fucking dumb it is astonishing, it's like you never developed beyond a 3rd grade reading level.
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2019-08-29 at 1:04 PM UTCI represent myself. I’m not looking to gain a damn thing. I’m telling you my viewpoint and some facts. Not everyone is out to “gain” a damn thing from anyone.
Soi,
Sorry if you don’t believe the truth. Certain things happen, then the repercussions follow. It’s just how it is!
Fact: that kid posted his manifesto on 8chan. 8chan was all over the news. Cloudfare said they wouldn’t shut down 8chan. Boom 3 days later, they were shut down. The outrage in America caused them to shut it down. Plain and simple. Nothing more to it. -
2019-08-29 at 1:04 PM UTC
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2019-08-29 at 1:10 PM UTC
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2019-08-29 at 1:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Looks like they need to host their own shit.
Do you not know what isps are? Do you not understand what monopolies are?
Originally posted by Technologist Again, discrimination is totally different than stopping something that has shown to cause terrorism.
Being black has been shown to cause terrorism, being muslim has been shown very well to cause terrorism. -
2019-08-29 at 1:23 PM UTC
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2019-08-29 at 1:29 PM UTC
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2019-08-29 at 1:35 PM UTC
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2019-08-29 at 1:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist There’s a lot of pressure on these industries not to give these alt right nationalists a platform, after the El Paso shooting. I agree that any entity can cancel a person out whenever they feel like it. They pay the bills. Why don’t these folks start their own website?
They personally agreed to be a politically unbiased platform to get a special exemption from legal action for discrimination. They didn't have to agree, but they did. That's on them, not anyone else. They could have just went without the exemption and banned and harassed opinions they don't agree with all they wanted, but they decided to go with the option which would provide them legal immunity. Now, they want their cake and get to eat it, too. Ain't gonna happen. -
2019-08-29 at 1:51 PM UTC
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2019-08-29 at 2:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Number13 US centric huh? Is the US the only country that matters? The world wide web is well you can figure that one out for yourself, can't you?
Are you going to ignore my other question?
So you can’t prove it. Yes we are discussing the USA. I am talking about the El Paso shooting that got the ball rolling on these alt right sites being dumped. Try to keep up kid.
Yes I know what an isps is, as well as monopolies. I also know that these people can create their own actual site, buy the rights, etc., etc. That’s how enterprise works in the USA. -
2019-08-29 at 3:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist So you can’t prove it. Yes we are discussing the USA. I am talking about the El Paso shooting that got the ball rolling on these alt right sites being dumped. Try to keep up kid.
There's no point even trying to prove anything to you, I could mention the countless isis twitter accounts that don't get banned even though they directly support and radicalise people, disproving your point that it's about terrorism, or the streams of these mass shootings, footage of which is the stated reason for certain sites being taken down but not facebook, not twitter, ain't that odd?
I could quote crime statistics or give you sites but you'd say it was misrepresented, the site was wrong or it was cherry picked.
And then what you'll do is say that I'm a racist or a nazi or a trump supporter and say that you're leaving cause you have better things to do which you do in pretty much every thread you get in to an argument in.
So anyone else but you, I would.
Originally posted by Technologist Yes I know what an isps is, as well as monopolies. I also know that these people can create their own actual site, buy the rights, etc., etc. That’s how enterprise works in the USA.
If you knew what isps are then you'd know people can't simply go start their own site like that, because it wouldn't get hosted, if they started their own host company then the isps could easily ban the site for their customers and if the people started their own isp they'd get shit on because there are monopolies/duopolies on us infrastructure, if they even get that far which they won't because many banks and payment options refuse to fund such things.
But let's say for the sake of argument that they are able to own the hosts, the isps, the infrastructure and the banks, do you know what would happen?
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country I mean what mass shooting did Alex Jones inspire?
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2019-08-29 at 3:57 PM UTCSo you can’t prove it!
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2019-08-29 at 4:12 PM UTCHere, I’ll give you a better response, I was busy. God forbid I have things to do.
Originally posted by Number13 There's no point even trying to prove anything to you, I could mention the countless isis twitter accounts that don't get banned even though they directly support and radicalise people, disproving your point that it's about terrorism, or the streams of these mass shootings, footage of which is the stated reason for certain sites being taken down but not facebook, not twitter, ain't that odd?
I could quote crime statistics or give you sites but you'd say it was misrepresented, the site was wrong or it was cherry picked.
And then what you'll do is say that I'm a racist or a nazi or a trump supporter and say that you're leaving cause you have better things to do which you do in pretty much every thread you get in to an argument in.
So anyone else but you, I would.
You are a racist pig, wear it proud kid that can only say this shit online cause you’d be dead if you said it to their face. So you can’t prove it. I’m here, not going anywhere until I get in the shower. God forbid I take a shower and not wait in your response with great anticipation.If you knew what isps are then you'd know people can't simply go start their own site like that, because it wouldn't get hosted, if they started their own host company then the isps could easily ban the site for their customers and if the people started their own isp they'd get shit on because there are monopolies/duopolies on us infrastructure, if they even get that far which they won't because many banks and payment options refuse to fund such things.
Geeee I wonder why. -
2019-08-29 at 6:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Here, I’ll give you a better response, I was busy. God forbid I have things to do.
lol as if you ever leave because of that, you just use it as an excuse to get out of fighting your side.
Originally posted by Technologist You are a racist pig, wear it proud kid that can only say this shit online cause you’d be dead if you said it to their face. So you can’t prove it. I’m here, not going anywhere until I get in the shower. God forbid I take a shower and not wait in your response with great anticipation.
I am racist yeah, and I'm racist to peoples faces too.
This just in: Anti-racist says that black and brown people resort to violence based on mere words.
That's some internalised racism right there
Originally posted by Technologist Geeee I wonder why.
You say that but you're proving my point and disproving your own, people can't simply go and make their own site.