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2019-03-26 at 9:03 PM UTC
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2019-03-26 at 9:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson If pedophilia is a mental illness then they are not responsible for their thoughts/actions no more than a manic depressive is responsible for his…demonizing people with mental illness is pretty low on the humanity scale isn't it.
I more or less agree with this notion, except that you do have to draw a line somewhere.
It's precisely why I advocate for (psychological, perhaps even biological) treatment first and foremost, then once an actual offense with a real live victim occurs, punishing the offender, but humanely.
It's the jumping right into medieval, or even down-right biblical (Old Testament), punishments, that is so unreasonable and even cruel/sadistic to me.
It's not unreasonable to assign a certain degree of personal responsibility.
I mean, if someone drove drunk and mowed down a bike race or something, killing dozens of cyclists, we're not just gonna say "well, they were too drunk to rationally choose to drive, or not to drive, and thus they are 100% innocent."
But the important thing is to balance personal responsibility with the mitigating factors brought on by the recognized mental illness (or whatever other decision-influencing factors, such as intoxication in the above example). -
2019-03-26 at 9:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks I mean, if someone drove drunk and mowed down a bike race or something, killing dozens of cyclists, we're not just gonna say "well, they were too drunk to rationally choose to drive, or not to drive, and thus they are 100% innocent."
Ill just leave this here.
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2019-03-26 at 9:06 PM UTCNot a poster thread.
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2019-03-26 at 9:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Did I say that?
I’m saying there is a very strong maternal instinct I knew nothing about till the second I held my son for the first time. I would have never understood it even a second earlier, and I know a childless person cannot understand it.
I can totally understand wanting to protect a child and not wanting to see a child get hurt. That’s pretty ignorant to think otherwise. Did you honestly not give a fuck about children before you had children?
Of course people understand that you love your own child differently but people can comprehend wanting to protect children without having children. -
2019-03-26 at 9:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks I more or less agree with this notion, except that you do have to draw a line somewhere.
It's precisely why I advocate for (psychological, perhaps even biological) treatment first and foremost, then once an actual offense with a real live victim occurs, punishing the offender, but humanely.
It's the jumping right into medieval, or even down-right biblical (Old Testament), punishments, that is so unreasonable and even cruel/sadistic to me.
It's not unreasonable to assign a certain degree of personal responsibility.
I mean, if someone drove drunk and mowed down a bike race or something, killing dozens of cyclists, we're not just gonna say "well, they were too drunk to rationally choose to drive, or not to drive, and thus they are 100% innocent."
But the important thing is to balance personal responsibility with the mitigating factors brought on by the recognized mental illness (or whatever other decision-influencing factors, such as intoxication in the above example).
Translation:
We've been noncing for 1000's of years, why should anyone start caring now?
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2019-03-26 at 9:11 PM UTCTechnologist seems to have narcissistic personality disorder. I think it may be the same fat blond woman that was on zoklet? Anyway, psychopaths aren't mentally ill. But until someone does something wrong, there's no reason to kill them. All these arm-chair activists and lynch mobs... Hilarious. Most of them wouldn't do anything in real life but call the cops. I knew a guy who would often go on about how pedophiles should be shot and how he'd shoot them if he caught them abusing a kid... The guy was later convicted of raping a bunch of kids. Similar to how people who are extremely homophobic are often closet gays. They see something in the people they hate that reminds them of their own flaws.
Anyhow, everyone needs to be shot. -
2019-03-26 at 9:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by ohfralala I can totally understand wanting to protect a child and not wanting to see a child get hurt. That’s pretty ignorant to think otherwise. Did you honestly not give a fuck about children before you had children
Of course people understand that you love your own child differently but people can comprehend wanting to protect children without having children.
You’re really stretching it there. I said earlier that the pedo sympathizers I see here are childless. That is an accurate observation...no?
I’m saying NO parent worth a hill of beans would be a pedo sympathizer. -
2019-03-26 at 9:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by ohfralala I don’t have kids, nor do I wants kids, but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t be crushed if I had children and someone hurt them, nor does it mean I can’t have a rational conversation about certain subject matters.
That’s pure nonsense.
Are you still "tight"?
Or...did it get all stretched out by dating Magic Mike? -
2019-03-26 at 9:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist I would start getting him help the second he realized his feelings. I would call the cops on him if I knew that he raped a child. I’d have him put in continuing care if he could possibly be a danger to anyone.
I like what you are saying here, as it is a lot more humane than what many others would wish upon a pedophile with whom they share zero familial association.
But when you read what you just said, and read what you typically say about the scenario when not considering the offender being your own child, do you truly feel like you are being 100% consistent?
You know how a lot of people believe in the moral/ethical dictum "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
I live by that, but slightly modified, and it has had an incredibly impactful effect every single time I find myself judging another person's actions, or deciding on what a fair punishment would be for them...
And that's this modified version: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto your closest/dearest loved ones."
It's why I can comfortably say, I find adult/minor sexual relationships morally repugnant.
But you know what else I find equally morally repugnant? Treating these offenders inhumanely or unjustly or as downright evil entities.
In the first scenario, I imagine, say, my mother or father, or one of my siblings, or possibly future children I may have one day, being the victims.
In the second scenario, I imagine the exact same thing, only the victim is not sex abuse victim but a victim of society's cruel treatment.
I mean, if someone commits a single rape, then spends 25 years in prison, being raped over and over, how are they not also a victim?
Or are we picking and choosing when sexual assault/abuse and rape is taboo, and when it's totally kosher?
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2019-03-26 at 9:16 PM UTCGad,
Just like we agreed earlier. If it’s not shoved in my face, I won’t say a word. -
2019-03-26 at 9:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist You’re really stretching it there. I said earlier that the pedo sympathizers I see here are childless.
I don’t feel like I am. I am asking you if you were able to care about children before you had your own, enough so to not want to see them get harmed. Or were you just like meh fuck it that kid can maybe get raped? -
2019-03-26 at 9:18 PM UTCAnd I said you’re stretching it.
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2019-03-26 at 9:19 PM UTC
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2019-03-26 at 9:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by We'reAllBrownNosers Technologist seems to have narcissistic personality disorder. I think it may be the same fat blond woman that was on zoklet? Anyway, psychopaths aren't mentally ill. But until someone does something wrong, there's no reason to kill them. All these arm-chair activists and lynch mobs… Hilarious. Most of them wouldn't do anything in real life but call the cops. I knew a guy who would often go on about how pedophiles should be shot and how he'd shoot them if he caught them abusing a kid… The guy was later convicted of raping a bunch of kids. Similar to how people who are extremely homophobic are often closet gays. They see something in the people they hate that reminds them of their own flaws.
Anyhow, everyone needs to be shot.
Yes cause I'm a fucking nonce m8. -
2019-03-26 at 9:21 PM UTCLol smh she on meth. Crazy bitch.
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2019-03-26 at 9:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks Or are we picking and choosing when sexual assault/abuse and rape is taboo, and when it's totally kosher?
That presents a scenario that just plain makes me sick.
Some of them are evil. It makes bleeding heart liberals everywhere sick. They're the ones defending the criminals. Kind of like in the UK where you may get a worse punishment for defending yourself against an attacker than the attacker gets for attacking you. Retarded, but that's the way some people want it. Again, everyone needs to be killed. There are too damn many people in the world to be worrying about how a rapist or serial killer or some other faggot is being treated in prison. The majority of people in prisons probably don't belong there, as most are not rapists or child abusers. Doesn't that bother you more than how certain types of people are treated according to their crimes? -
2019-03-26 at 9:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by ohfralala That’s what I thought. You were able to care enough before you had your own kids.
Thanks :)
You didn’t prove a point. I would hope most would care about a child’s welfare or anyone’s for that matter. I’m saying you would not sympathize with a pedo if you were a parent. And you could never understand unless you were.
Again I will say that I AM NOT downing the childless. I’m just saying I’ve been armed with a different viewpoint because I have a child. -
2019-03-26 at 9:25 PM UTCThere's actually quite a lot of people who have kids that sympathize with pedophiles. The vast majority of them are democrats or liberals.
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2019-03-26 at 9:26 PM UTC
