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So with all this opiod crisis bullshit...
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2018-12-11 at 2:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc You pull that old 'the jokes on him, I was just acting retarded all along' defense a lot, don't you §m£ÂgØL?
Don't worry pal, I'm sure everyone's falling for it tho.
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>posts a bunch of numbers
>who cares about numbers
>"ur retard"
Like are you even fucking serious. I don't even have to finish to post and you rage. I don't even have to make a statement and you will argue. -
2018-12-11 at 2:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by Cro Mango People should just directly sell and buy high quality, properly dosed, diluted fentanyl. It will be cheaper and better. The problem is people buying other shit that has fent mixed in because it's cheap, and they have no idea. Just use fentanyl in 100x smaller doses.
Fentanyl is highly soluble in fats so we could make all sorts of great flavored food products to get kids hooked.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-12-11 at 5:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box legalize opium, no one will even care about heroin. would really like to just throw a little opium in a bowl of weed.
but that's basically free painkillers and cuts out billions and billions of dollars
I mean, you'd still have needle freak junkies shooting grams of skag into their eyeballs but a huge swath of opiate users would be well served by just having their own opium garden. no more withdrawals either, just go for a walk and make sure to smell the flowers.
The Sacklers just put out a $150,000 hit on you.
Originally posted by Rizzo in a box I think that one problem that you see when you get more and more powerful drugs is that that it can be pretty hit/miss on the specific results you wanted but it's going to be strong regardless. heroin is pretty nice but it is stronger and it really fucks with you, your hormones, your normal state of being, you get a prolactin hangover. maybe you didn't really need to be THAT high though. maybe just a little to make you feel more comfortable, make up for the lack of natural options get the endorphins flowing in the modern world.
fentanyl isn't even fun. it's fucking shitty, you get all the negative effects (itchy, dumb & drowsy, nauseous, etc) and barely any of the euphoria. sure, if you're an addict it's better than suicide or whatever - but this is NOT better living through chemistry. this is mass produced poison.
why can't I have my own garden with some opium, peyote, coca, tobacco, weed, whatever else? The natural forms are not necessarily "safe" in some absolute sense, but compared to these ridiculous synthetic drugs that are hundreds and thousands times more potent than anything found in nature…I dunno. Heroin use would drop like 60% if opium was legal to grow and use in small amounts.
of course you get problems like well then people could just make their own heroin…that's true, those people already can, and we also have general rules against doing potentially dangerous or toxic shit with chemicals regardless of the nature of the project. I think the few people making their own dope would pale in comparison to sad 19 year old junkies using needles suddenly harvesting a little neighborhood garden opium to put in their smoke session with friends.
I tried several times to grow Mother Geckos somniferum seeds to no avail. CA isn't very hospitable to those varieties for some reason. -
2018-12-11 at 5:28 PM UTCFentanyl Wasn't awful IMO. Or maybe my drug addled brain just was grasping at whatever I could do that wasn't my DOC.
That said, I'd say there's some truth to both arguments ( fentanyl vs. crisis in general). I've talked to some of my suppliers back in the day, and he way they tell it, while heroin used to be a mostly east coast thing, the cartels wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth, and the popularity and overzealous prescription of hydrocodone and eventually oxycodone really tilled the fields for a fantastic new crop of junkies. After 9/11, law enforcement was on high alert for any shifty looking brown folk, so instead of just moving drugs from the hood into the fringes of the suburbs, they actually set up shop there. In Denver and Oklahoma City, Austin, Portland, Lincoln and Seattle, they began buying property....in some cases paying passable, healthy junkies that they already knew, to be the homeowner of record in these new cities. These became their suburban hubs. Cheap, potent tar even started edging out ECP in some of its own markets. People who would otherwise have passed on needle drugs, opted to experiment with smoking the stuff. When Purdue changed their oxy formulation and demand was suddenly skyrocketing, their were millions of unknowing addicts suddenly in the crosshairs. Many people who started finishing their scripts early began buying from friends, and eventually from the people those friends bought from. So part of the stigma of buying "street drugs" was diminished. Mexican heroin was a fraction of the price, far more effective. Before "black tar heroin" became a household name, I even saw it marketed as other things. The first 3 or 4 times I did it, I was told it was "opium" (although it did taste very different. Maybe it was - who knows?).
In the fentanyl front, black market synthesis and availability on the dark web means that even mid level dealers have been able to whip up their own artisANAL batches of "China white". The people closer to the cartels have had some basic guidance as to know what to use, and in which doses, mix the fent into a solution to dose it volumetrically, and then mix thoroughly to avoid hotspots. Those without that input are often inattentive to the fact that different analogues have different potencies, and end up buying whatever is cheapest at the time, or whatever they can afford. For $300 you can grab 5 grams of acrylfentanyl, furanyl fentanyl or one of its other analogues. And with corn starch, microcellulose, Calcium tablets, quinine, mannitol, elmers glue, lidocaine or even OTC benzocaine gel, cheesecloth, a bench vise, and the kind of vacuum over you'd use to make weed "shatter", you can crank out 10-15 ounces of "high quality" heroin that they'll then turn around and sell for at least 1500- if not 1800-2000 retail.
In other words, the people who have access to this shit are becoming less and less informed.
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2018-12-11 at 7:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG >posts a bunch of numbers
>who cares about numbers
>"ur retard"
Like are you even fucking serious. I don't even have to finish to post and you rage. I don't even have to make a statement and you will argue.
Rage? Who the fuck is raging?
Hold on were you sitting there at your computer typing shit out while imagining me sitting here going ape shit, or summing??
Lol I smoke a bit of gear then just check nis for lolz then smoke a bit more. I never took any internet shit serious in my life.
Sounds like you got a really overactive imagination there, you soppy little faggot
lol.
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2018-12-11 at 11:28 PM UTCEvery response you give is way more effort than anybody else gives my trolling.
These aren't my real opinions and niggas who know me know that. -
2018-12-11 at 11:35 PM UTC
