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We have a moral obligation to stop eating meat
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2018-05-07 at 7:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe What's your point? Choosing to not eat meat is a nice ritual but ultimately it is meaningless. Some people prefer to eat meat, some people prefer not to eat meat, either way it doesn't really matter.
Not eating meat isn't a ritual, it's a principle. It's measured in the number of animals who don't die for the purpose of consumption. If you care about suffering, this is a very important metric to use and it has real-world value, unlike your best wishes for the consumed.
I'm not addressing your nihilism, it's a refuge from a failing argument and it's prohibitive to discussion. -
2018-05-07 at 8 PM UTC
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2018-05-07 at 8:12 PM UTCHas TeeHee seen this thread
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2018-05-07 at 8:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick Not eating meat isn't a ritual, it's a principle. It's measured in the number of animals who don't die for the purpose of consumption. If you care about suffering, this is a very important metric to use and it has real-world value, unlike your best wishes for the consumed.
what if we only eat animals that died of old age ??? -
2018-05-07 at 8:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader what if we only eat animals that died of old age ???
The logistics of that are difficult to stomach. If you want any sort of reliable supply of meat from animals which have died from old age, you need a large number of strategically-birthed livestock, and while you're not killing them for the meat, you're still rearing them for the exclusive purpose of providing food. From my position, this exploitation is impermissible just as is factory farming. The alternative to agricultural production would be to find animals which died in the wild and butcher them, which I think presents a number of dangers to us and doesn't achieve the consistency of supply that our current industry provides. -
2018-05-07 at 8:37 PM UTC
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2018-05-07 at 8:39 PM UTC
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2018-05-07 at 8:49 PM UTC
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2018-05-07 at 8:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by Zanick Why the hell would I do that? At worst, I could incriminate myself on charges of murder and cannibalism. At best, you're going to post another picture of a dog defecating.
more like abject hypocrisy and further evidence that youre a smoldering pile of shit, you smoldering pile of shit.
open wide, nigger, and feast your cum-stained maw...
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2018-05-07 at 9 PM UTCverganism summed up
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2018-05-07 at 9:02 PM UTCIf you want to contribute to the discussion, ACP, I would suggest doing so through text. Nobody feels like opening a Vocaroo unless it was posted by mmQ in which case we're guaranteed quality.
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2018-05-07 at 9:04 PM UTCHe said A CHICKEN WILL CHASE YOU DOWN AND EAT YO BODYThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-05-07 at 9:05 PM UTCsry i only talk thru vocaro now i cant read ur comment unless u make it a audio book
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2018-05-07 at 9:21 PM UTCVegan and humanitarians are two completely different animals. Whereas the humanist would take issue with, say, chicken feather sandwiches, a vegan would probably have no problem with it.
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2018-05-07 at 9:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by Vegan and humanitarians are two completely different animals. Whereas the humanist would take issue with, say, chicken feather sandwiches, a vegan would probably have no problem with it.
You can complete a sentence better than ACP or infinityjedi, but you are exactly at their level of stupidity regardless. -
2018-05-07 at 9:26 PM UTCnot sure what ol' chapped-cock said but I'm sure it was something rude.
don't eat this duck guys -
2018-05-07 at 9:37 PM UTCI seriously thought this thread was parody and never clicked on it until the other day. Do you know what happens to animals that only eat grass when there are no predators around? They grind their teeth down to nothing, can't chew grass anymore and then starve to death. If they are lucky they live long enough for that to happen, more likely they will starve to death in winter when there is nothing to eat because there are too many of them for the environment to sustain.
I hunt with skill and give animals an instant death so tell me, why do you want animals to have a prolonged and antagonizing death?
Also your quantification of how many animals you haven't eaten is wrong, you've never butchered an animals and have no idea how much weight is actually eaten from an animal.
Fuckin city kids, here's a good illustration of how the real world works. In the 1980's a plane crashed in the andes, it was carrying a soccer team, successful and normal people. They ate their dead just like has happened many many times in the past. Everyone says "I would never be a cannible" but the truth is you have never experienced hunger and you have no idea what you would do if you did, but I can tell you, you would dig up a dead body and eats its brain under the right circumstances.
Your argument is so stupid that I thought you were joking. -
2018-05-07 at 9:52 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2018-05-07 at 9:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Madman I seriously thought this thread was parody and never clicked on it until the other day. Do you know what happens to animals that only eat grass when there are no predators around? They grind their teeth down to nothing, can't chew grass anymore and then starve to death. If they are lucky they live long enough for that to happen, more likely they will starve to death in winter when there is nothing to eat because there are too many of them for the environment to sustain.
So I should kill animals before they can all starve to death in the wild? I can't believe I never thought of that. It's almost like a hideously flawed syllogism just vomited out of your mouth onto the keyboard.I hunt with skill and give animals an instant death so tell me, why do you want animals to have a prolonged and antagonizing death?
That's funny, I went into this post hoping you would describe yet another one of your many talents and employ several fallacies of reasoning at the same time.Also your quantification of how many animals you haven't eaten is wrong, you've never butchered an animals and have no idea how much weight is actually eaten from an animal.
This is an argument from authority, yet another fallacy. The fact is that not eating animals is the greatest currency for someone seeking to reduce their impact on suffering.Fuckin city kids, here's a good illustration of how the real world works.
I'm not confident that you know how the real world works, and I never said I was from the city, you imagined that about me because it makes you feel superior.In the 1980's a plane crashed in the andes, it was carrying a soccer team, successful and normal people. They ate their dead just like has happened many many times in the past. Everyone says "I would never be a cannible" but the truth is you have never experienced hunger and you have no idea what you would do if you did, but I can tell you, you would dig up a dead body and eats its brain under the right circumstances.
What exactly is your point here? Are you suggesting that I should assume scarcity of resources when I craft my diet, or that I should avoid professional soccer? I don't see how this changes the fact that eating meat is immoral.Your argument is so stupid that I thought you were joking.
You didn't actually address my argument, you created a strawman. I'm not sure you know what my argument is, it looks as though you're just barely familiar with the most general possible iteration of the vegan position and you assumed it would carry over into any debate on the subject. -
2018-05-07 at 9:57 PM UTC
