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  1. For a first sport bike, what do you think?

    I was going to get a used 500 or 650 but I keep hearing that good used sport bikes are always priced just short of new ones, and if the price is low it's either stolen or wrecked

    I want to get a zx-10 but I know that's suicide for a first bike

    I've ridden bikes before, but never a sport bike, so I fully expect to go down once or twice but hopefully not. As much as I'd love to go brand new, i wouldn't want to tear up a $7k investment if they're only good for one wreck. I know if I go down on a full-fairing sport bike I'll probably have to replace the fairings, but what about a "naked bike" or streetfighter? Do they tear up easy?

    I'm 6 feet tall and over 250 pounds so I'll probably have to get 500cc or higher

    Leaning toward kawasaki or Suzuki, but if a Yamaha or Honda calls my name I would get it.

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  2. benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by Kolokol-1 For a first sport bike, what do you think?

    I was going to get a used 500 or 650 but I keep hearing that good used sport bikes are always priced just short of new ones, and if the price is low it's either stolen or wrecked

    I want to get a zx-10 but I know that's suicide for a first bike

    I've ridden bikes before, but never a sport bike, so I fully expect to go down once or twice but hopefully not. As much as I'd love to go brand new, i wouldn't want to tear up a $7k investment if they're only good for one wreck. I know if I go down on a full-fairing sport bike I'll probably have to replace the fairings, but what about a "naked bike" or streetfighter? Do they tear up easy?

    I'm 6 feet tall and over 250 pounds so I'll probably have to get 500cc or higher

    Leaning toward kawasaki or Suzuki, but if a Yamaha or Honda calls my name I would get it.

    Also general motorcycle discussion thread

    start with mopeds.
  3. Originally posted by benny vader start with mopeds.

    I've already had other motorcycles, just never a sport bike
  4. RestStop Space Nigga
    Ducati ftw.
  5. benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by Kolokol-1 I've already had other motorcycles, just never a sport bike

    then stage 2 would be to modify them legally or otherwise so that they be just as fast as sport bikes .... to familiarize yourself with the speed and acceleration while maintaining the handling characteristics of a something your familiar with.
  6. benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by RestStop Ducati ftw.

    ducatis are for faggotts.
  7. RestStop Space Nigga
    Originally posted by benny vader ducatis are for faggotts.

    People who can't afford Ducatis are faggots.
  8. infinityshock Black Hole (banned)
    Originally posted by Kolokol-1 For a first sport bike, what do you think?

    I was going to get a used 500 or 650 but I keep hearing that good used sport bikes are always priced just short of new ones, and if the price is low it's either stolen or wrecked

    I want to get a zx-10 but I know that's suicide for a first bike

    I've ridden bikes before, but never a sport bike, so I fully expect to go down once or twice but hopefully not. As much as I'd love to go brand new, i wouldn't want to tear up a $7k investment if they're only good for one wreck. I know if I go down on a full-fairing sport bike I'll probably have to replace the fairings, but what about a "naked bike" or streetfighter? Do they tear up easy?

    I'm 6 feet tall and over 250 pounds so I'll probably have to get 500cc or higher

    Leaning toward kawasaki or Suzuki, but if a Yamaha or Honda calls my name I would get it.

    Also general motorcycle discussion thread

    for a first bike, get a cheap POS that is SAFE and runs decently...then beat the shit out of it. and make sure you get good body armor and wear it.

    then when you break it your feelings will be 'meh' instead of suicidal thoughts at breaking a $12k toy

    as far as pricing on used bikes...its like anything else automotive-related: depends on the seller. i bought a $8000 bike for $5000 because the dudes wife was 'making' him sell it and i was the only one that answered his newspaper classifieds ad.

    nowadays bike prices are ridiculous and dealing with the dealers is a bullshit hassle. $10k for a CBR600...$12k for a CBR1000...$18k for a S1000RR...fuck bike dealerships. twice i went into a dealership (one honda...one BMW) with approved financing from my personal bank and couldnt get the salesman to stop being jews on their inflated 'deals' so i went home with my money and they kept their overpriced junk.
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  9. infinityshock Black Hole (banned)
    Originally posted by benny vader start with mopeds.

    no.
  10. Ajax African Astronaut [rumor the placative aphakia]
    Watch Craigslist and wait for a deal. My last bike I got around 6 years ago was off CL. The guy was asking for $4,500. KBB was in the $5,500-$6,000 range, so I jewed him down to $4,000. He laid the bike down on some gravel and it spooked him, which is why he would selling it for a deal. He replaced all the damaged parts, which were cosmetic anyway. All in all, I’ve been happy with the bike and I could sell it right now and get at least what I paid for it.
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  11. Originally posted by Ajax Watch Craigslist and wait for a deal. My last bike I got around 6 years ago was off CL. The guy was asking for $4,500. KBB was in the $5,500-$6,000 range, so I jewed him down to $4,000. He laid the bike down on some gravel and it spooked him, which is why he would selling it for a deal. He replaced all the damaged parts, which were cosmetic anyway. All in all, I’ve been happy with the bike and I could sell it right now and get at least what I paid for it.

    This is what I was thinking at first. Problem is I don't know what signs to look for that a bike has been stolen or trashed with the cosmetics fixed.
  12. infinityshock Black Hole (banned)
    Originally posted by Kolokol-1 This is what I was thinking at first. Problem is I don't know what signs to look for that a bike has been stolen or trashed with the cosmetics fixed.

    nowadays most stolen bikes are either shipped overseas (south america...messyco) or stripped and sold for parts to mechanics or online.

    as far as trashed...its almost impossible to tell if repairs are done by an expert. sloppy repairs are easy to find and identify. mismatched handlebar caps...mismatched clutch/brake levers...same with the common parts that would be damaged in a drop.

    check the VIN thru a state DMV...theyll tell you if it has a valid title
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  13. komokazi Houston
    New bike is stupid simp, stupid question. Almost all new riders will lay down their craft at least once.
  14. Vigilante Yung Blood
    ^^ I dropped my first bike immediately right after driving it for 10 secs. The reason? Adjusting to the weight and acceleration needed to turn. In short, your probably gonna wanna take that first turn slow.. even if its just circling in a lot of whatever, and likely.. without prior knowledge of experience, it may just tip on over on you. Fortunately, these sort of drops don't typically cause much damage or harm.. maybe a slightly scuffed fairing. Needless to say, the damage could also be more sever, such as the dreaded dented tank (fugyly). I started on a 650 that was slightly older, but adjusted quickly. If you've got the extra cash and wanna go the safe route, blow $150 and go take the MSF course. Atleast you can fuck around on their tiny bikes there, and when you go home to jump on your own iron horse, you'll have a much better understanding of what your doing. And I'm pretty sure you get your license or permit taking that course.. not sure, but I do know it causes your insurance to go down. Another thing, can't go wrong with full coverage on a newer model bike. Worst case scenario, you crash it out.. it's paid for, bike might still be repairable or used as a parts bike. Things to consider.

    Also, I'd start on a 650 or belowe. The lower the better kinda, but if your buying a new bike I'd suggest 500-650 just because it's a good size bike for new or experiences riders. Some 300's are pretty wicked bikes themselves. Really, just gotta be realistic.. Are you going to daily driver, do you plan on riding the interstate, looking for something to go on long trips.. All those factors play a role.

    Pretty sure I got off topic... Back on topic, buy a nice used bike off craigslist or go to a local dealerships and check out their trade ins. All of the guys at the local place I go to seem to be on the up and up because they're passionate enthusiast themselves and want to help the buyers get the right bike for them, instead of just making a sell.. Can't say its like that everywhere. Also, if you go through a dealership to get a trade in, always atleast try to get that first number down.. You may succeed, may not.. Or try to get some in store gear packaged with it. Never know until you try, and if you are successful, you come away with more than you would have.
  15. apt Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by komokazi New bike is stupid simp, stupid question. Almost all new riders will lay down their craft at least once.

    Hey komo, kill yourself
  16. A College Professor African Astronaut [your moreover breastless limestone]
    if i have a dotter im gona buyer a hiboosa all name the motorcycle sharlit
  17. When I made this thread, I was new to SPORT bikes, not motorcycles in general

    I ended up buying a brand new Ninja 300 for $4.5k last December and had no problems for the first thousand miles.

    Then in February I decided i was going to get fucked up and ride it home. I would've been fine if it wasn't for fog so bad I couldn't see a foot in front of me, GPS sending me all over the place, anger from the events of the night, and being totally lost.

    I couldn't see a foot in front of me and ended up hitting a median at about 40mph

    I made it over the median but hit the curb on the other side, breaking my collar bone, shoulder blade and lacerating my spleen

    Then recently I got a new set of bodywork, put it on, and have had another thousand miles trouble free

    And I finally quit drinking and lost thirty pounds.
  18. Originally posted by infinityshock ass rapes lannyfag in the mouth and he likes it thats why i said that:

    Yep, I didn't listen

    At least I only ended up being out around 700 for the new set of bodywork though (and possibly another 300 if i decide to replace the helmet. I know I'm supoosed to but the impact only hit the visor)

    It still runs great
  19. Originally posted by infinityshock ass rapes lannyfag in the mouth and he likes it thats really, really cheap

    modern plasto-bikes with their lightweight frames usually tweak or rip when they hit a curb at that speed…and once a frame is out of alignment you may as well buy a new bike. the manufacturers use so much aluminum in all the load bearing locations (shocks…forks…etc)that its almost a guaranteed four-figure repair bill if you hit something.

    not really relevant to your wreck but:



    note the cop holding the dudes pants. the dude was dead.

    I was actually surprised and very thankful that I had no obvious frame damage, the new body kit fit perfectly

    I hit the curb at a ~40 degree angle too

    Can't see the pic, it's giving me a 502 error
  20. joerell African Astronaut [twine our circinate supersymmetry]
    Used bikes in NY state being stolen is a greater possibility...especially if bought privately and under priced. Age of bike is also important and if it can be modified. You'd also be surprised where rust shows up on some and if the bike is not higher end. So new is better...considering most used bikes will need repairs or you'll find hidden problems. Although better made Hayabusas tend to be run fast and usually have more issues if used. Ducatis on the other hand are the worse in my opinion and still you can find good ones if you look hard enough. Their electronics can be tricky and hopefully you have a good mechanic or have some skills.

    Places like this use to be good.

    https://www.cycletrader.com/New-Or-Used-Motorcycle-For-Sale-In-New-York---CycleTrader.Com/motorcycles-for-sale?state=New York%7CNY&sort=featured%3Aasc&

    Now it's a crap shoot...warranties are needed and once you buy privately you have none.
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