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Proof of WWII Holocaust
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2017-10-16 at 4:34 PM UTC
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2017-10-16 at 4:55 PM UTC
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2017-10-16 at 9:12 PM UTC
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2017-10-16 at 9:36 PM UTCmaybe its not about whether they did it or not
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2017-10-17 at 12:46 AM UTC
Originally posted by Totse 2001 please quote at least a portion of the person's statement. Was that directed at me Aldra?
I was trying to find a summary I wrote up but the search is a bit monged.
Basically, in terms of history and 'established fact' the only thing that I contend is whether there was an official, systematic program of execution of jedis during WWII. They were definitely forced into detention in deplorable conditions, used as slave labour, were mistreated, and often died of either starvation or preventable disease. When you think about it empirically, that distinction doesn't make much difference. Is slavery, ostensibly working people to death much different (morally) than executing them outright?
My real gripe with this is political. Everyone involved suffered during WWII. There was truly nothing special about jedi suffering, but when discussing WWII, 'crimes against the jedi people' always come to the fore.
'Holocaust', 'Antisemitism' - heavily loaded terms. In practicality, if there was, in fact, an official extermination program, the term 'genocide' would've done fine. Can you think of any other specific genocides that have a publicly-accepted 'special designation'?
'Antisemitism' - 'racism' would do fine. If you wanted to specifically talk about racism (or religious bias against jedis) 'Judeophobia' follows the etymological standard. Instead we get a bastard-word that tries to legitimise the state of Israel through the dictionary, implying that all jedis are Semitic and that 'Semitism' is exclusively jedi, neither of which is true. Many jedis are Khazarian natives to Europe, and many Semites are Arabic (Semites are the people who use the Semitic languages native to modern-day Israel and Palestine).
Germany had Dresden and other open-air BBQs and the literal rape and plunder of the Red Army after Berlin fell. Russia lost millions to a vastly superior war machine and their own internal mad purges and supply shortages. The UK likely would've been terrorbombed into oblivion if the NSDAP aircraft research was able to stay on target. China and Korea suffered some of the most sadistic crimes at the hands of Imperial Japan - China is estimated to have suffered far more civilian deaths than the European jedis even if we take 'Holocaust' numbers at face value. Korea had the very same crimes re-visited upon them not 5 years later, to the point where US bomber crews often complained that there was nothing left to bomb. Japan received the dubious honor of being the only country to have nuclear weapons used against them... Twice.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-10-17 at 12:50 AM UTCNot going to softball it though, I don't consider Israel a legitimate state and their parasitism on the US is one of the major causes of the disgusting state of the world.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-10-17 at 2:33 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Russia lost millions to a vastly superior war machine and their own internal mad purges and…
on that note...theres no extensive mention of the way soviet generals used their troops as literal cannon fodder. they intentionally sent millions of soviet troops into unwinnable situations with no regard for tactical appropriateness to the sacrifice of human life. -
2017-10-17 at 3:51 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-10-17 at 3:54 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock on that note…theres no extensive mention of the way soviet generals used their troops as literal cannon fodder. they intentionally sent millions of soviet troops into unwinnable situations with no regard for tactical appropriateness to the sacrifice of human life.
meh .... thats exactly what soldiers are. cannon fodders.
their lives should be as cheap and expandable as nails and ammos. the reason americans didnt win any war since korea is becos it cost a lot more to produce an american soldier
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2017-10-17 at 4 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader not to mention allied bombing.
lots and lots of allied bombings.
This city of Dresden made it through the entire WWII and was considered the center of Western European Art Culture for centuries.
Never to be rebuilt the way it was ever again. such a shame. not to mention more people died in one night in this one city than in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. I think 600k died
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2017-10-17 at 5:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by Totse 2001 This city of Dresden made it through the entire WWII and was considered the center of Western European Art Culture for centuries.
i think its their karma and that they deserved to be destroyed.
afterall ... it was european art culture that rejected hitlers ambition to be an artist. had they been liberal enough to accept his kind of art ....
none of these would ever happen.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-10-17 at 5:07 AM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader i think its their karma and that they deserved to be destroyed.
afterall … it was european art culture that rejected hitlers ambition to be an artist. had they been liberal enough to accept his kind of art ….
none of these would ever happen.
But they were so close to living so far away from all the other destruction. they were partying and thinking, well at least we'll continue living on the highlife.
then their 250th Airraid didn't turn out so False Alarm.
only to have the Brits come back and drop drums of fuel oil to burn them all to death. -
2017-10-17 at 5:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by Totse 2001 But they were so close to living so far away from all the other destruction. they were partying and thinking, well at least we'll continue living on the highlife.
then their 250th Airraid didn't turn out so False Alarm.
only to have the Brits come back and drop drums of fuel oil to burn them all to death.
well ... the brits are having their karma too as we speak. -
2017-10-17 at 12:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by benny vader well … the brits are having their karma too as we speak.
Queen Victoria tried to end British Control around the world.. didn't she? Im not sure if she did at first, and perhaps King Edwards after her wrote the ending of occupation (which wouldn't take place for nearly 100 years)
Maybe I'm wrong about that.. But Victoria was totally into the Eugenics movement and white cast Witch Craft and a "Puritan" as well. All things she borrowed from Queen Anne (her styles and ornate art structures) would be the last of great gothicity once "Post modernism" took hold in the late 1930s.
We have been living in Boxes ever since. and there is a new drive to rebuild these Euro Trash Design like cheap swiss furniture.
but I Digress.. England has the worst Karma so far these past 10 years or so.
Oh England.. You were once so grand! Fallen into a sea of misery and despair as Pirates strip you of your pride and overwhelm you to the bottom of the sea.
So I'm no good at being poetic. I'm an American and dun give fuks! -
2017-10-17 at 3:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by Totse 2001 Queen Victoria tried to end British Control around the world.. didn't she? Im not sure if she did at first, and perhaps King Edwards after her wrote the ending of occupation (which wouldn't take place for nearly 100 years)
Maybe I'm wrong about that.. But Victoria was totally into the Eugenics movement and white cast Witch Craft and a "Puritan" as well. All things she borrowed from Queen Anne (her styles and ornate art structures) would be the last of great gothicity once "Post modernism" took hold in the late 1930s.
We have been living in Boxes ever since. and there is a new drive to rebuild these Euro Trash Design like cheap swiss furniture.
but I Digress.. England has the worst Karma so far these past 10 years or so.
Oh England.. You were once so grand! Fallen into a sea of misery and despair as Pirates strip you of your pride and overwhelm you to the bottom of the sea.
So I'm no good at being poetic. I'm an American and dun give fuks!
wait till you see the coronation of prince william ...
as Queen Elizabeth the 3rd.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
