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2017-09-28 at 3:34 AM UTCYeah but what kind of video's and pictures? I'm asking you if its child porn.
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2017-09-28 at 3:42 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon I think it'll give him convenient longevity. I would be a better value to just build a mid range PC and do mid range upgrades as time goes by but since he's not willing to build, I'm also guessing he doesn't give enough of a shit to upgrade every other year.
depends on if you're willing to spend that much extra for future-proofing I guess. fyi you could drop that down to specs closer to what you'd actually use and save $500 or so.
If you do go with the spec CF gave though, I'd recommend getting one of the 'reference' or 'founders edition' versions of the 1080ti, they're a little more expensive but built to nVidia's original spec and significantly more durable and reliable. -
2017-09-28 at 3:44 AM UTC
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2017-09-28 at 3:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra depends on if you're willing to spend that much extra for future-proofing I guess. fyi you could drop that down to specs closer to what you'd actually use and save $500 or so.
If you do go with the spec CF gave though, I'd recommend getting one of the 'reference' or 'founders edition' versions of the 1080ti, they're a little more expensive but built to nVidia's original spec and significantly more durable and reliable.
If he plans to build it, I'd recommend lower specs. But he seems set on buying a prebuilt so that's the best option I think. -
2017-09-28 at 4:03 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon I think it'll give him convenient longevity. I would be a better value to just build a mid range PC and do mid range upgrades as time goes by but since he's not willing to build, I'm also guessing he doesn't give enough of a shit to upgrade every other year.
thats something else i was wondering while looking at that table of parts...if i can just yank out a few components from my current computer and replace them with something more modern. according to what ive been reading, the one i have now is an i7 2.xxghz...with 9GB RAM...however my graphics are gimped to fuck due to me adding a graphics card that i bought at best buy in desperation when the previous one shit itself to death and i couldnt even log onto the computer.
edit: now that im looking at that option i see that id have to figure out compatibility between whatever im going to add and the mother board, power supply, etc. not much less complicated than the last PC i built in the fred-flintstone era.
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2017-09-28 at 4:07 AM UTC
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2017-09-28 at 4:07 AM UTC
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2017-09-28 at 4:08 AM UTC
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2017-09-28 at 4:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock thats something else i was wondering while looking at that table of parts…if i can just yank out a few components from my current computer and replace them with something more modern. according to what ive been reading, the one i have now is an i7 2.xxghz…with 9GB RAM…however my graphics are gimped to fuck due to me adding a graphics card that i bought at best buy in desperation when the previous one shit itself to death and i couldnt even log onto the computer.
edit: now that im looking at that option i see that id have to figure out compatibility between whatever im going to add and the mother board, power supply, etc. not much less complicated than the last PC i built in the fred-flintstone era.
Post last edited by infinityshock at 2017-09-28T04:10:18.422887+00:00
Yeah the problem is that since you have an i7 2xxx, it's probably ~6 years old along with your motherboard, you won't be able to just buy a new CPU and plug it in.
However, you can reuse your hard drive, your case, your PSU, fans, optical drives, your RAM (if you are fine with sticking to DDR3 rather than 4, which is perfectly fine).
Those are mostly relatively small cost concerns though(~$300). The big shit is the mobo, CPU and GPU, which are probably what need to be upgraded.
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2017-09-28 at 4:27 AM UTCIf you want a nice PC that will last a good 10-15 years, the Lenovo ThinkCentre M600 10G9001GUS (IBM previously manufactured the ThinkCentre) is built like a tank. It's all anyone really needs, and you can probably get a used one for about $300. A new One, $500-$600, which means a lot of bang for the buck.
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883795767CVF&_ga=2.184017446.1426545844.1506572789-958494858.1506572789&_gac=1.250726834.1506572789.EAIaIQobChMIqPbzs4PH1gIVUIGzCh3oyQgKEAkYBSABEgIlh_D_BwE -
2017-09-28 at 4:28 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL If you want a nice PC that will last a good 10-15 years, the Lenovo ThinkCentre M600 10G9001GUS (IBM previously manufactured the ThinkCentre) is built like a tank. It's all anyone really needs, and you can probably get a used one for about $300. A new One, $500-$600, which means a lot of bang for the buck.
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883795767CVF&_ga=2.184017446.1426545844.1506572789-958494858.1506572789&_gac=1.250726834.1506572789.EAIaIQobChMIqPbzs4PH1gIVUIGzCh3oyQgKEAkYBSABEgIlh_D_BwE
Absolutely 100% not suitable for his professional use.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-09-28 at 4:29 AM UTC
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2017-09-28 at 4:37 AM UTC
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2017-09-28 at 4:39 AM UTCWell, the more you want, the more the cost. He said he wants to keep the cost modest. That's a powerful computer, for the price, and as I said, it will last at least a decade and a half. It's built super tough, with next to no maintenance required.
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2017-09-28 at 5:02 AM UTCI linked something similar, but for graphics work I would not recommend a budget Pentium CPU and integrated graphics
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2017-09-28 at 5:07 AM UTCSpectraL, you are a fucking moron. I'm not having this discussion with you beyond this post, so I'll lay it out:
Your PC won't require much maintenance anyway unless you are literally mentally retarded. It's a stationary object that sits on your desk with like 1 or 2 moving parts i.e. the fans and possibly an HDD. The most maintenance you have to do on a PC is to open it up and hit it with some compressed air to clear out the heatsink and fans. Being "built like a tank" is not what makes a desktop PC last a long time, it is more of a consideration for a laptop.
What "kills" computers for the most part is just being slow and shitty. The computer you linked is fairly weak and will not make sense for his professional use, specially over the coming years. It would be fine as a family computer for general use, like web browsing and so on. It's not fine as a computer for any professional to use for multiple years. -
2017-09-28 at 5:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon SpectraL, you are a fucking moron. I'm not having this discussion with you beyond this post, so I'll lay it out:
Your PC won't require much maintenance anyway unless you are literally mentally retarded. It's a stationary object that sits on your desk with like 1 or 2 moving parts i.e. the fans and possibly an HDD. The most maintenance you have to do on a PC is to open it up and hit it with some compressed air to clear out the heatsink and fans. Being "built like a tank" is not what makes a desktop PC last a long time, it is more of a consideration for a laptop.
What "kills" computers for the most part is just being slow and shitty. The computer you linked is fairly weak and will not make sense for his professional use, specially over the coming years. It would be fine as a family computer for general use, like web browsing and so on. It's not fine as a computer for any professional to use for multiple years.
You have to be built like a tank to endure the psychological abuse SpectraL's computers go through. -
2017-09-28 at 12:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon Yeah the problem is that since you have an i7 2xxx, it's probably ~6 years old along with your motherboard, you won't be able to just buy a new CPU and plug it in.
However, you can reuse your hard drive, your case, your PSU, fans, optical drives, your RAM (if you are fine with sticking to DDR3 rather than 4, which is perfectly fine).
Those are mostly relatively small cost concerns though(~$300). The big shit is the mobo, CPU and GPU, which are probably what need to be upgraded.
Post last edited by Captain Falcon at 2017-09-28T04:28:06.038731+00:00
that's what I was seeing from the websites.
HD isn't relevant since I trash them and replace them on a regular basis.
everything else is a wear item so to speak and probably past its usable life. I like the case tho... -
2017-10-15 at 11:48 AM UTCI came here to say build your own, but after reading other people saying the same and you saying it isn't an option, that limits us. Store bought/off the shelf computers.............eh........................
I don't like them. At all. I am an IT professional and I repair these heaping piles of shit for people every day. While getting a mainstream, prepackaged, off the shelf computer is fine and all, you're severely limiting yourself in terms of warranty, power, functionality, price point, and just about any other deciding factor.
If you still insist, look at Lenovo or MSI. They make quality shit. Fuck a Dell and HP with their notorious overheating chipsets can burn in hell. -
2017-10-15 at 1:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by Grimace I came here to say build your own, but after reading other people saying the same and you saying it isn't an option, that limits us. Store bought/off the shelf computers………….eh……………………
I don't like them. At all. I am an IT professional and I repair these heaping piles of shit for people every day. While getting a mainstream, prepackaged, off the shelf computer is fine and all, you're severely limiting yourself in terms of warranty, power, functionality, price point, and just about any other deciding factor.
If you still insist, look at Lenovo or MSI. They make quality shit. Fuck a Dell and HP with their notorious overheating chipsets can burn in hell.
thats the thing...its easy to say 'build your own' when you have the time and ability. i dont have the time to collect and assemble the whole shebang, then when something doesnt work, the technical know-how to unfuck it.
warranty with dell has always been good with me. HP sucks...i had one i bought at sears back in the 90s and it was a piece of ass getting nigger raped. i was taking cursory looks at prices and assembling a super-computer is cheaper than buying one, but the 'high-end-average' prices were about the same.
the dell-bought alienware that i have now is having overheating issues, i think. i dont know for certain...im just guessing.
