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Can you get your head around the vastness of nothing?
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2020-01-18 at 10:53 PM UTCSpectral, would you say the Bible is more reliable than "mainstream media"?
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2020-01-18 at 10:53 PM UTC
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2020-01-18 at 11:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Sure it does. A perfect man had to die being righteous because a perfect man died sinning. That is what is meant by the "corresponding ransom". If Adam weren't a perfect man, the life of the perfect man Jesus would have been overpayment. You really aren't any good at this, kid. Just give up arguing now and save yourself some embarrassment.
Nowhere does it say either Jesus or Adam were 'perfect'. You are just inferring based on whatever youtube video you watched. Nowhere does it say anything about this 'trade' shit you're making up, or mention Adam at all.
It does however allude to the fact that Jesus, oh I don't know, died for OUR sins?
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2020-01-18 at 11:40 PM UTCI think there was something about how Adam eating the apple was the original sin, and that sin got passed on to us, and that’s why Jesus died. I dunno I didn’t read most of it
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2020-01-18 at 11:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox I think there was something about how Adam eating the apple was the the original sin, and that sin got passed on to us, and that’s why Jesus died. I dunno I didn’t read most of it
'died for our sins' basically means Jesus died so that we could go to heaven.
I guess nobody before 33 AD or whatever went to heaven. God didn't forgive any sins before then. Adam definitely didn't go to heaven because he sinned without being 'perfect' and you have to be 'perfect' to go to heaven. Either by a life of righteousness (andbeingbaptizedandproperlyburiedlol) or/and by having your sins forgiven. -
2020-01-19 at 2:10 AM UTC
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2020-01-19 at 2:15 AM UTC
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2020-01-19 at 2:58 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Ok so what does original sin mean
The sin of being human. You are guilty for this as a result of Adam and Eve disobeying God... somehow. You get cleansed of this when you are baptized.
But really it's all about interpretation. It's just that all MODERN interpretation and MODERN translations have some sort of explanation like this. Hilariously a lot of the support for original sin is in apocryphal texts. It's all just a bunch of bullshit really. People trying to make sense of a 2,000 year old fairy tale to fit their modern views. Most sects don't believe in the original sin anymore because its too outlandish and guilt-trippy. People act like their particular version of their particular God is THE particular version, but in practice organized religion is really pretty fluid.
Last year the Pope said that homosexual tendencies are not a sin lol
https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2019/04/pope-francis-says-homosexual-tendencies-are-not-a-sin/
I mean today's religion is just WILDLY liberal compared to just a century or two ago when it was frowned upon for women in the west to do anything other than raise a family. The world will probably continue to liberalize and the meaning and wording of the bible will change with it. Anybody who relies on a book to guide them through life is fucking retarded. Believe in God, fine, but don't be such a sheep as to need a set of rules written by long dead men. And if you are going to be a sheep, at least fucking follow them. -
2020-01-19 at 3:53 AM UTCNothingness is unstable and cannot exist. /thread
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2020-01-19 at 8:16 AM UTCSpectruM is a massive nigger retard
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2020-01-19 at 8:16 AM UTCFox is an intermediate nigger retard who is salty as a motherfucker and walks around being salty.
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2020-01-19 at 8:29 AM UTCedited for privacy
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2020-01-19 at 3:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE I didn't reword shit faggot, link what you think I reworded or kill yourself nigger. Don't project your own stupidity on to me retard.
And no you didn't. Don't lie you piece of dried cum.
I just literally bullshitted out my ass to spitball one idea for a single probe that can regulate a laser fired alongside it and the whole project can be one ultra long term but self contained endeavour.
You suggested Von Neumann probes being sent out to do who knows what into the radiation and stresses of interstellar space and will just take over the universe for sure lmao. Easy to say unless you think 15 seconds about the actual challenges of developing such a thing.
And the math doesn't even work out. Even if the intelligent species was born 8 billion years ago, even the first photons they sent out would have a radius of 8b lightyears they could possibly have traversed. What if they were all the way across the universe? We wouldn't see them for another 40+ billion years even if they went at 100% the speed of light (I.e.literally impossible).
Plus it would take an equal amount of time for their probes to relay the info back to them again.
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2020-01-19 at 3:26 PM UTC
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2020-01-19 at 3:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL We and the animals and the plant life are the only life in the entire Cosmos. The only other life is the angelic creatures that reside in another dimension, or marooned here on Earth, which are all of the same race. It's just us and them and God. No other life forms exist. The entire Cosmos is just for us to behold, to prove beyond all doubt the might and power and wisdom of the Creator.
If this creator was so hell bent on us being so impressed by his awesomeness then he would without doubt show himself in all his splendor for us to see and know. The fact he doesn't do that at all, in any way or form, ever, proves its all bullshit."I want everyone to know the full extent of my greatness, how should I go about showing this? I know, I'll hide myself so far out of sight that nobody ever sees me."
lol
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2020-01-19 at 3:34 PM UTC
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2020-01-19 at 3:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Why wouldn’t they? What we can see from here is blurry blips of light billions of years old from across the universe. Which is a little different than sending a probe with sophisticated measurement equipment to study interstellar phenomena up close and relay that information back. Obviously you would have no real-time communication with the drones, you would just send them out by the trillions with onboard intelligence so each one could carry out its mission independently.
Intelligent life is like a virus, or maybe more like mold overtaking a ripe fruit - look how humans spread across this entire planet within a few thousand years. And even you concede that probably very soon we will do the same thing to our solar system. And if you take that reasoning a step further, there seems to be no reason why we wouldn’t try to spread our influence beyond that, across the galaxy and then the entire universe, given the means. There are a few things that would stop us along the way, such as a planet wide extinction event or whatever. But out of thousands, or potentially even millions of intelligent civilizations throughout the universe since the beginning of time, they can’t all have been hit by an asteroid or nuked themselves into oblivion. There must have been at least one that could have done it. Unless of course once a civilization reaches the level of technological advancement to do so, they would also have the technological means to abandon this reality like I said.
Other than that, the only explanation for the Fermi Paradox that makes sense to me is maybe the rare earth hypothesis. Maybe intelligent life really is just so uncommon that we’re actually the first or one of the first to ever reach this stage.
But the theory that interstellar travel is just “too hard” doesn’t really hold much water. We literally have the technology to do it right now, in fact we’ve already started albeit in an extremely rudimentary way. The Voyager 1 probe has already left the solar system and will reach a distance equivalent to the nearest star sometime within the next 50,000 years or so. And that’s on 1970’s technology, within the next century we will be able to send things out much further and faster, although it would still take probably over a million years to explore even our own galaxy due to the light speed barrier. What we DONT have right now is the will or foresight as a society to see through a 50,000-year project, let alone a million-year one. But once humanity evolves to be able to think on these kind of timescales, rather than just within the frame of reference of one modern day lifetime, what’s stopping us? People are already looking into this kind of thing even today, like project Starshot for example.
I mean obviously it’s an extremely difficult problem, but if a highly advanced civilization had billions of years to figure it out? They could eventually accomplish literally anything within the bounds of physics.
And yes the universe is still relatively in its infancy, but still, out of the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars in the observable universe, and if life isn’t just some infinitesimally unlikely event, there’s been plenty of time for other civilizations to evolve before us. So again, I find the rare earth hypothesis far more likely than the “too darn hard :(” hypothesis.
I do like the triple post though, you seem to be upset with me after learning who I am. Did I really hurt you that bad before? Why don’t you go buy a private jet with all your millions and fuck off lol
You know at even just 1 tenth of the speed of light, which is pretty ambitious to say the least, the nearest star to us is 80 years away. And even at a tenth of the speed of light hitting anything even the size of a grain of sand would smash you to oblivion.
Star trek isn't the real world, its called sci-fi for a reason.
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2020-01-19 at 3:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc You know at even just 1 tenth of the speed of light, which is pretty ambitious to say the least, the nearest star to us is 80 years away. And even at a tenth of the speed of light hitting anything even the size of a grain of sand would smash you to oblivion.
Star trek isn't the real world, its called sci-fi for a reason.
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2020-01-19 at 3:47 PM UTC
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2020-01-19 at 3:55 PM UTC