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Can you get your head around the vastness of nothing?
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2020-01-18 at 6:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE No, why? This is just a bunch of retarded assumptions about the sci fi shit YOU would do without understanding the challenges because you are an idiot.
Why would an intelligent civilization "create drones to map out the universe"? Are you mentally defective? We get information from all over the universe at the speed of light. Why would they send drones? How would they control drones far away when radio communications are limited by the speed of light? Do you think you have a radio antenna that can transmit more information across the universe without attenuation or disruption than a magnetar? No you don't because you are brain dead.
And no there hasn't been "plenty of time to evolve intelligent life" and we aren't "late to the party". Again
meaningless stupid assumptions.
Statistically we are in the youth of the universe, 14 billions years in compared to the trillions ahead. Earthlings are some of the first life forms amongst the countless trillions that will emerge in the cosmos, we are almost infinitely fortunate to be so early. And even on Earth, out of the trillions of species that have existed, humans are the sole accident of intelligence. And our intelligence is highly contingent upon a bunch of massive coincidences of evolution. If there's anything you can discern from life on earth it's that general intelligence is unbelievably rare. There are many features observed to have been independently evolved, wings, claws, hippity hops. Intelligence isn't one of them. There are some semi intelligent animals who can perform certain tasks like a young child, like orcas. Those are the smartest ones we've found. I.e. the next smartest thing we have ever found evidence of is basically on the level of a severely retarded person compared to an average human adult.
Who's to say we aren't some of the first or we won't be the first ones to actually leave cosmic signposts of our existence? I think the chances are good. And every one of these arguments taking it seriously is always some retard who does not understand shit about engineering who watched too much The Matrix.
Fox thinks that a planet capable of supporting life formed within the first billion years of the universe and that a highly intelligent being formed straight from the primordial soup on that planet in less than another billion years. He clearly has no concept of how many billions of years it takes for intelligent life to form, lol.
Also, crows are some of the most intelligent species on our planet. They are not only one of the few animals observed to use tools, but will use a tool to either make or obtain another tool to perform a task. This shows a whole other level of forward planning that even chimps or dolphins are not known to be capable of.
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2020-01-18 at 6:43 PM UTC
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2020-01-18 at 6:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox Ok but why the fuck would we ever send probes out you retard? There are 1x10googol better uses of our resources
Because a specific, precalculated scientific mission that uses finite and realistic amount of resources is actually a realistic idea, just one that will pay off in an extremely long time. As opposed to blindly sending autonomous drones out there and hoping they work. -
2020-01-18 at 6:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc Fox thinks that a planet capable of supporting life formed within the first billion years of the universe and that a highly intelligent being formed straight from the primordial soup on that planet in less than another billion years. He clearly has no concept of how many billions of years it takes for intelligent life to form, lol.
Also, crows are some of the most intelligent species on our planet. They are not only one of the few animals observed to use tools, but will use a tool to either make or obtain another tool to perform a task. This shows a whole other level of forward planning that even chimps or dolphins are not known to be capable of.
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Whatever, give or take a couple billion years. My point is at 14 billion years there has been plenty of time for life to come before us by a margin of potentially billions of years. And if we could make as much technological progress as we have in just the last couple decades, imagine what a civilization could do in that time. -
2020-01-18 at 6:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Because a specific, precalculated scientific mission that uses finite and realistic amount of resources is actually a realistic idea, just one that will pay off in an extremely long time. As opposed to blindly sending autonomous drones out there and hoping they work.
What you described is pretty much the exact concept I was talking about. I just didn’t bother to reword a bunch of Wikipedia articles & waste time getting into all the particulars. I never said the drones, probes, whatever would be completely disconnected from any kind of wider network. All I said was they could be sent out en masse and somehow relay information back, which is what you just described.
It’s funny how you literally agreed with everything I said but phrased it like an argument just so you could appear smart by “winning” that argument. -
2020-01-18 at 7 PM UTCScientific debate is how you discover. Disagreeing is good but think about the glory that awaits an idea nobody can disagree with.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-01-18 at 7:09 PM UTC
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2020-01-18 at 7:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny no, seriously, do you know how retarded it is to communicate witn far awar probes with optical technology ?
its like trying to throw a needle at another needle in a haystack a few lightyears away.
thats utter retardation.
have you ever tried aiming a laser sight at small things a thousand yards away ?
Yeah dude your fingers are literally the exact same thing as a hypothetical future laser probably aimed by AI. -
2020-01-18 at 7:24 PM UTCno, a hostility for acid throwers
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2020-01-18 at 7:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox What you described is pretty much the exact concept I was talking about. I just didn’t bother to reword a bunch of Wikipedia articles & waste time getting into all the particulars. I never said the drones, probes, whatever would be completely disconnected from any kind of wider network. All I said was they could be sent out en masse and somehow relay information back, which is what you just described.
It’s funny how you literally agreed with everything I said but phrased it like an argument just so you could appear smart by “winning” that argument.
I didn't reword shit faggot, link what you think I reworded or kill yourself nigger. Don't project your own stupidity on to me retard.
And no you didn't. Don't lie you piece of dried cum.
I just literally bullshitted out my ass to spitball one idea for a single probe that can regulate a laser fired alongside it and the whole project can be one ultra long term but self contained endeavour.
You suggested Von Neumann probes being sent out to do who knows what into the radiation and stresses of interstellar space and will just take over the universe for sure lmao. Easy to say unless you think 15 seconds about the actual challenges of developing such a thing.
And the math doesn't even work out. Even if the intelligent species was born 8 billion years ago, even the first photons they sent out would have a radius of 8b lightyears they could possibly have traversed. What if they were all the way across the universe? We wouldn't see them for another 40+ billion years even if they went at 100% the speed of light (I.e.literally impossible). -
2020-01-18 at 7:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE I didn't reword shit faggot, link what you think I reworded or kill yourself nigger. Don't project your own stupidity on to me retard.
And no you didn't. Don't lie you piece of dried cum.
I just literally bullshitted out my ass to spitball one idea for a single probe that can regulate a laser fired alongside it and the whole project can be one ultra long term but self contained endeavour.
You suggested Von Neumann probes being sent out to do who knows what into the radiation and stresses of interstellar space and will just take over the universe for sure lmao. Easy to say unless you think 15 seconds about the actual challenges of developing such a thing.
And the math doesn't even work out. Even if the intelligent species was born 8 billion years ago, even the first photons they sent out would have a radius of 8b lightyears they could possibly have traversed. What if they were all the way across the universe? We wouldn't see them for another 40+ billion years even if they went at 100% the speed of light (I.e.literally impossible).
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2020-01-18 at 7:44 PM UTCYou losers are pathetic. Y'all need friends.
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2020-01-18 at 7:47 PM UTC
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2020-01-18 at 7:49 PM UTC
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2020-01-18 at 7:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny the why do we have such a long list of birth defects, mental retardations and endangered speciesea ?
yes. those were produced in error, some of those unlucky tries.
Because the further away we get from the perfect man, Adam, who caused himself to become imperfect, the more imperfect we become. -
2020-01-18 at 8:54 PM UTC
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2020-01-18 at 8:57 PM UTCedited for privacy
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2020-01-18 at 10:43 PM UTC
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2020-01-18 at 10:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL You need to study up on what the "corresponding ransom" actually means, kid. Start with 1 Timothy 2:5, 6.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time.
Nothing to do with Adam being perfect. Try again. -
2020-01-18 at 10:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace
Nothing to do with Adam being perfect. Try again.
Sure it does. A perfect man had to die being righteous because a perfect man died sinning. That is what is meant by the "corresponding ransom". If Adam weren't a perfect man, the life of the perfect man Jesus would have been overpayment. You really aren't any good at this, kid. Just give up arguing now and save yourself some embarrassment.
