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Iraq - Major Escalation Underway (January 2020)
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2020-01-11 at 2:59 PM UTCI bet it was the deep state and the joos.😛
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2020-01-11 at 3:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker These sand niggers are not trained like our military even at senior field command levels. They are nervous, they are under trained, they have equipment that is not being maintained properly due to economic and supply issues, and they are a blood thirsty lot. And some of you are surprised they shot down the airline?
Some light reading (Why Arabs Lose Wars by Norvell B. De Atkine Middle East Quarterly December 1999):
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2020-01-11 at 3:39 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-01-11 at 4:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker The image you posted was mobile rocket platform.
Yeah, that was from before Soleimani was killed - the thing that prompted the flare-up initially was *someone* fired off a few 107mm KATYUSHA-type rockets at the K1 airbase killing 2 Iraqi soldiers and a US contractor. An Iraqi unit was sent to investigate where the rockets came from and they found that truck which was assumed to be the launch site, and the media used the presence of unfired Iranian 107mm rockets to claim an Iranian connection (even though they flood Iraqi and Syrian battlefields and the batch numbers match those found in SDF stores).
***https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_K-1_Air_Base_attack
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2020-01-11 at 4:29 PM UTC
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2020-01-11 at 4:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie That's a yikes from me chief.
I posted quickly from mobile before but:
I think the Iranians were right and the plane did initially suffer engine failure. This forced the plane to turn around and try to emergency-land, but for whatever reason they weren't able to communicate with the tower so the SAM complex operators assumed it'd been hijacked.
The U-turn back toward the airport has been confirmed via flight records and the U-turn happened after their last transmission (they did not or could not report to the tower), so it's likely that whatever failure the plane suffered caused issues with its communications systems.
The timing is highly suspicious but unless evidence comes out that the plane was hijacked or sabotaged, it seems like an unfortunate cascade of events at the worst possible time. -
2020-01-11 at 4:35 PM UTCHow about their communications were intentionally jammed?
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2020-01-11 at 4:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I posted quickly from mobile before but:
I think the Iranians were right and the plane did initially suffer engine failure. This forced the plane to turn around and try to emergency-land, but for whatever reason they weren't able to communicate with the tower so the SAM complex operators assumed it'd been hijacked.
The U-turn back toward the airport has been confirmed via flight records and the U-turn happened after their last transmission (they did not or could not report to the tower), so it's likely that whatever failure the plane suffered caused issues with its communications systems.
The timing is highly suspicious but unless evidence comes out that the plane was hijacked or sabotaged, it seems like an unfortunate cascade of events at the worst possible time.
doesnt make sense. terrorism doesnt happen in a terror sponsoring state, just doesnt.
and has the flight data been released ?
edit : its perfectly reasonable for the plane to turn around because ukraine is located on the east. need to find previous flight path for the flight. -
2020-01-11 at 4:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL How about their communications were intentionally jammed?
it's possible but completely without evidence at the moment
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny and has the flight data been released ?
Yeah Ukraine has a copy but it hasn't been decoded or analysed yet as I understand it. They're still trying to organise an international investigation team. -
2020-01-11 at 4:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I posted quickly from mobile before but:
I think the Iranians were right and the plane did initially suffer engine failure. This forced the plane to turn around and try to emergency-land, but for whatever reason they weren't able to communicate with the tower so the SAM complex operators assumed it'd been hijacked.
The U-turn back toward the airport has been confirmed via flight records and the U-turn happened after their last transmission (they did not or could not report to the tower), so it's likely that whatever failure the plane suffered caused issues with its communications systems.
The timing is highly suspicious but unless evidence comes out that the plane was hijacked or sabotaged, it seems like an unfortunate cascade of events at the worst possible time.
lol get that opinion from RT did you? -
2020-01-11 at 4:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Yeah Ukraine has a copy but it hasn't been decoded or analysed yet as I understand it. They're still trying to organise an international investigation team.
actually there are two, one for the flight data and the other for voice records. would be interested to hear the voice recordings. -
2020-01-11 at 4:46 PM UTCThe black boxes got Epsteined and "some data was lost".
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2020-01-11 at 4:48 PM UTC
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2020-01-11 at 4:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I posted quickly from mobile before but:
I think the Iranians were right and the plane did initially suffer engine failure. This forced the plane to turn around and try to emergency-land, but for whatever reason they weren't able to communicate with the tower so the SAM complex operators assumed it'd been hijacked.
The U-turn back toward the airport has been confirmed via flight records and the U-turn happened after their last transmission (they did not or could not report to the tower), so it's likely that whatever failure the plane suffered caused issues with its communications systems.
The timing is highly suspicious but unless evidence comes out that the plane was hijacked or sabotaged, it seems like an unfortunate cascade of events at the worst possible time.
Gotcha. -
2020-01-11 at 5 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL How about their communications were intentionally jammed?
This is interesting because I just read a few articles about the IRGC commander that gave the order to shoot it down - he says he had to make the call personally because there were 'communications issues' and he couldn't verify with his superiors. -
2020-01-11 at 5:02 PM UTCThe deep state actors are very clever. They've thought of everything.
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2020-01-11 at 5:14 PM UTClol, ISIS has called Soleimani's murder 'divine intervention' in their latest newsletter
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2020-01-11 at 5:27 PM UTCThis is the bag of sub-human garbage who murdered all those people, including women, kids and infants.
IRGC General Amir Ali Hajizadeh
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2020-01-11 at 5:36 PM UTCActually he's just the commanding officer of the overall air force in Iran.
The actual idiot who launched the missile hasn't been named, but must be feeling pretty pessimistic about his future right about now. -
2020-01-11 at 5:38 PM UTCThe buck stops with commander and chief. Just like over here.
