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Iraq - Major Escalation Underway (January 2020)
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2020-01-09 at 11:42 PM UTCThe US, the UK and Canada are all saying now it was a missile that shot down Flight 752. And we all know who that was. The US military industrial complex, to pin the blame on Iran.
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2020-01-09 at 11:47 PM UTCWhy would anyone do such a thing? This was just some retards doing what retards do best, make a ballser of even the simplest task.
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2020-01-09 at 11:49 PM UTCWe'll see I guess. If the video is genuine the angle of the missile and the location it went down indicates it would've had to have been launched from within Iran. The plane wasn't at cruising altitude yet, it was apparently at 2400m which is well within the range of a MANPAD but too far and too fast for an unguided rocket.
In fact based on that video I'd say a MANPAD was a more likely candidate than a SAM complex considering how small the flare was and the lack of a persistent vapor trail but again, it was at night. -
2020-01-09 at 11:52 PM UTCAnd now the data on the black box was conveniently "damaged and lost". Just like the Epstein cameras.
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2020-01-09 at 11:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra We'll see I guess. If the video is genuine the angle of the missile and the location it went down indicates it would've had to have been launched from within Iran. The plane wasn't at cruising altitude yet, it was apparently at 2400m which is well within the range of a MANPAD but too far and too fast for an unguided rocket.
In fact based on that video I'd say a MANPAD was a more likely candidate than a SAM complex considering how small the flare was and the lack of a persistent vapor trail but again, it was at night.
Air to air missiles don't have a very long range AFAIK. Granted, it's not hard to hit a passenger aircraft, but I never heard of an air to air missile that could fly hundreds of miles.
Unguided rockets are very unlikely to hit anything besides the ground, never mind a plane.
Yes, a manpad. This was some retarded arabs who got each other all worked up about how the jedis were coming to get them, and decided that this commercial airliner was the jedi mothership coming to infect them with the gay and force them to watch reruns of Friends. -
2020-01-10 at 12 AM UTC
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2020-01-10 at 12:02 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL And now the data on the black box was conveniently "damaged and lost". Just like the Epstein cameras.
Citation? The Iranians can claim the explosion was due to a "design flaw", just like the yanks did with TWA 800, which was shot down off Long Island in 1996, apparently in a false flag that -ironically- was to be blamed on Iran. Iran was handing out Manpads to everyone back then (I wasn't in line), and the sensationalist US media was making a big deal about it. -
2020-01-10 at 12:03 AM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Citation? The Iranians can claim the explosion was due to a "design flaw", just like the yanks did with TWA 800, which was shot down off Long Island in 1996, apparently in a false flag that -ironically- was to be blamed on Iran.
If we would just take out Iran we wouldn't need to blame anything on them. -
2020-01-10 at 12:03 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist We all know you hate the US specs, it’s obvious.
It's not a matter of hate, it's a matter of knowing full well what they are capable of and willing to do to further their agendas. These are not the good guys. These are despicable and clever cretins who will stop at nothing to lie, steal and cheat their way into the next world war. -
2020-01-10 at 12:04 AM UTC
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2020-01-10 at 12:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Air to air missiles don't have a very long range AFAIK. Granted, it's not hard to hit a passenger aircraft, but I never heard of an air to air missile that could fly hundreds of miles.
Judging by the angle I would think it'd have to have been surface-launched
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country and decided that this commercial airliner was the jedi mothership coming to infect them with the gay and force them to watch reruns of Friends.
yeah I would've shot at it too -
2020-01-10 at 12:05 AM UTC
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2020-01-10 at 12:07 AM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Citation? The Iranians can claim the explosion was due to a "design flaw", just like the yanks did with TWA 800, which was shot down off Long Island in 1996, apparently in a false flag that -ironically- was to be blamed on Iran. Iran was handing out Manpads to everyone back then (I wasn't in line), and the sensationalist US media was making a big deal about it.
"On 9 January the black boxes were reported, by Iranian investigators, to have been damaged and some parts of their memory lost. The plane is capable of sending automated messages to the airline, including engine failure. However, no automated problem messages from the plane are sent to or received by the airline."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752
https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukrainian-passenger-plane-never-radioed-for-help-before-crash-black-boxes-damaged-iranian-investigators-say -
2020-01-10 at 12:08 AM UTCOn another topic:
I haven't posted much about it but you've probably heard that Iraqis have been firing missiles at the 'Green Zone' fairly regularly with no real effect. The reason for this is that they're firing over the US embassy (missiles keep landing near the waterline on the opposite side) to set off the alarms, piss everyone off and temporarily halt embassy business. -
2020-01-10 at 12:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL "On 9 January the black boxes were reported, by Iranian investigators, to have been damaged and some parts of their memory lost. The plane is capable of sending automated messages to the airline, including engine failure. However, no automated problem messages from the plane are sent to or received by the airline."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752
https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukrainian-passenger-plane-never-radioed-for-help-before-crash-black-boxes-damaged-iranian-investigators-say
No.
While we're on the subject of retards shooting down planes, lets remember 1988, when the brave heroes on board the USS Vincennes illegally crossed into Iranian territorial waters and bravely slaughtered 290 people, including 66 children, aboard a scheduled Iranian flight because they were too retarded to know any better.
Far from being punished for their actions they were all awarded medals for being such all-American heroes.
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2020-01-10 at 12:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra On another topic:
I haven't posted much about it but you've probably heard that Iraqis have been firing missiles at the 'Green Zone' fairly regularly with no real effect. The reason for this is that they're firing over the US embassy (missiles keep landing near the waterline on the opposite side) to set off the alarms, piss everyone off and temporarily halt embassy business.
Imagine being an employee there. -
2020-01-10 at 12:17 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL "On 9 January the black boxes were reported, by Iranian investigators, to have been damaged and some parts of their memory lost. The plane is capable of sending automated messages to the airline, including engine failure. However, no automated problem messages from the plane are sent to or received by the airline."
as far as I can find the Iranian investigators have said that the boxes are damaged and they may need technical help reading the data from them, but there's no official indication that any data is missing or unrecoverable.
Timeline if you're interested: https://www.rt.com/op-ed/477756-ukrainian-plane-crash-questions-iran/Two minutes after take-off at around 6am local time, PS752 stopped transmitting flight data. The pilot and crew, said to be reliable and “excellent” by UIA, did not communicate back to Tehran air control alerting to any problem.
The flight data shows the aircraft climbing normally to an altitude of 8,000 feet (2.4 kilometers), when it suddenly stopped communicating. One would think that if there was a technical engine problem then the flight data would show a haphazard ascent. Also, the pilot would have been expected to transmit a distress alert of the plane losing power. He didn’t. -
2020-01-10 at 12:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Imagine being an employee there.
kek, it'll get to the point where they just start ignoring the sirens, then a faulty missile will fall short and bonk through a window. it's actually already happened to a house just outside the 'green zone' -
2020-01-10 at 12:31 AM UTCIt stopped communicating because the cockpit no longer existed.
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2020-01-10 at 12:34 AM UTCThat was a few minutes before the plane went down.
Come to think of it, if it actually WAS shot down it's interesting that Gulf state news agencies made that call six minutes after the fact.