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Things I've learned about fitness
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2017-01-27 at 5:50 PM UTCI think a lot of problems on here is just age and hormonal problems. Because you are aging and just sitting on your ass feeling sorry for yourselves and doing drugs. I think that's what a lot of the suicidal thoughts come from. Yeah, we are all fucked, and you realize that more with age, but you can still feel good. Here are some things I've learned:
-To shed fat and get ripped in a few weeks all you have to do is eliminate carbs and exercise. Bear crawls and body weight exercises are fine. You can have a diet high in fat and protein and not crave food or be hungry.
-You can't get bigger without carbs (along with protein) your muscles aren't really going to grow. It's best to spike your insulin after a work out and get in a lot of protein and whatever other supplements you are on. If you are worried about your weight or gaining a little fat your muscles aren't going to grow. Without carbs you can be eating a shitload of calories and have a problem maintaining weight if you are working hard.
-You can get stronger without your muscles growing. In fact this is the goal for Olympic weight lifters and such.
-As far as a regular diet, I would say stick to a high fat/high protein low carb diet. Meat and leafy vegetables. I don't think there is one specific diet that humans are supposed to stick to all the time. But most of the time I think carbs are bad for humans. Cancer is fueled by glucose.
-For functional strength always do plyometric exercises after lifting heavy weights whether it's plyo pushups after benchpresses or box jumps after squats/deadlifts/leg presses etc.
-Don't exercise if you are still sore from the last time. Your muscles are healing and coming back bigger/stronger so if you are sore rest and eat foods for whatever your goal is. So that means if you are really pushing yourself you shouldn't be working out every day doing leg/upper body. If you really push yourself it should be leg/upper body/rest (or minimal exercise) or however you want to do it.
-Best exercises for boosting testosterone are benchpresses, rows, squats, deadlifts, cleans, anything that involves a lot of different muscles.
-Dumbells > Barbells for increasing gains on benchpressing/shoulder pressing, but they only go up so high. It's also a more functional strength you are building. By the time you get to benchpressing like 400lbs with barbells 100lb dumbells are about to be to light to work out with.
-Shoulder presses are probably the best exercise for building upper body strength and is better for building strength with benchpressing, probably more than benchpressing or it seems that way.
-Running long distances is counterproductive. It builds up hormones you don't want and you can get a better cardio workout jumping rope, sprinting, or with bear crawls. I'm not saying not to I'm just saying I see more negatives to it than positive. But running outside (obviously) is better than machines. If you had to I would say it would be best to do with a weighted vest and in the woods or on trails as opposed to concrete. It's just more of a challenge.
That's it for now. I may come back later to edit this as I think of stuff.
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2017-01-27 at 7:37 PM UTCI'm too busy to excersize. I get all my cardio running from the cops.
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2017-01-27 at 9:08 PM UTCThings I've learned about fitness: it sucks ass, avoid at all costsThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-01-27 at 9:22 PM UTCExercise is an essential part of life. Along with psychedelic experiences, sex, and learning. It's like the 4 pillars of Islam, except its the 4 pillars of life. Anyone who doesn't agree just hasn't done it.
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2017-01-27 at 9:25 PM UTCNah mang, I've done exercise, it's just highly lame. I mean things that are good for you can be unpleasant and I'm sure some people enjoy working out but let's be honest: it's just shitty loooong time to payoff suffering for the vast majority of first worlders
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2017-01-27 at 9:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Nah mang, I've done exercise, it's just highly lame. I mean things that are good for you can be unpleasant and I'm sure some people enjoy working out but let's be honest: it's just shitty loooong time to payoff suffering for the vast majority of first worlders
You have to do it for a while and eat healthy. You don't feel the payoff until it becomes somewhat of a habit and then it doesn't suck anymore because your body is used to it and you're not just dying to catch your breath the whole time. After that you can get a feeling similar to like an acid afterglow (not the psychedelia but that very natural feeling euphoria) after you work out. -
2017-01-27 at 10:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Nah mang, I've done exercise, it's just highly lame. I mean things that are good for you can be unpleasant and I'm sure some people enjoy working out but let's be honest: it's just shitty loooong time to payoff suffering for the vast majority of first worlders
20 pushups or jumping jacks after you've been eating shit and masturbating all day doesn't count bra. Exercising and self improvement are both addictive once you get into it, but it does have to be in combination with a good diet otherwise it's just like why bother.
Especially when you are in your mid-late twenties or early thirties thinking you are over the hill. And being able to say that you are the best version of yourself that has ever been. Idk how bad off you are but if you do the things about the carbs you could be shredded in a month...how much will be left once the fat is gone idk that either. But it's hormonal changes more than anything else. That's the main reason I'm suggesting weights instead of other exercising.
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2017-01-27 at 10:30 PM UTCThink of it like this. Testosterone makes you feel better. When you are young though, if you do the right stuff your body has no problem producing it. So getting on steroids isn't a good idea because when you stop your body can't produce it like before and you want to kill yourself (where some of you are now). So exercise can be like naturally taking steroids. You are more confident, aggressive, you are able to build muscle easily and you don't think yourself into a depression thinking about stuff you can't change.
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2017-01-28 at 12:13 AM UTCLanny only runs when the liquor store is about to close. The rest of his existence is spent storing energy for this mad sprint in case he happens to run low one night, He's like a hummingbird.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-01-28 at 1:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by ACE 20 pushups or jumping jacks after you've been eating shit and masturbating all day doesn't count bra.
That's not what I'm talking aboutExercising and self improvement are both addictive once you get into it, but it does have to be in combination with a good diet otherwise it's just like why bother.
People say that and yet I remain doubtful. I think Raymond Chandler novels are addictive and yet when someone says they don't like them my default response isn't "durr, u just need 2 read more and drive a classic american car while wearing a fedora, you haven't had the real experience". Some people just don't like some things, I don't know what about people who are into physical fitness makes them think their hobby is magically universally enjoyable.Especially when you are in your mid-late twenties or early thirties thinking you are over the hill. And being able to say that you are the best version of yourself that has ever been. Idk how bad off you are but if you do the things about the carbs you could be shredded in a month…how much will be left once the fat is gone idk that either. But it's hormonal changes more than anything else. That's the main reason I'm suggesting weights instead of other exercising.
I'm sure that's entirely true even if it's contradictory to a dozen other fitness dogmas, err I mean cults, err I mean regimens but "the best version of myself" isn't a function of my ability to uhh, lift heavy things? I really don't mean to shit on people who are into it, I totally understand the appeal even if I don't experience it personally, I just don't really care about being "shredded". Everyone has different priorities, what matters to me might mean nothing to you, and for some of us physical strength just isn't on the list of things worth giving a shit about. I mean not dying in my 40s is worth something, but it turns out you can be physically healthy with significantly less effort than it takes to be ripped or shredded or torn or grated.
Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump Lanny only runs when the liquor store is about to close. The rest of his existence is spent storing energy for this mad sprint in case he happens to run low one night, He's like a hummingbird.
I could win an olympic medal for the 10 block dash-to-bevmo. Actually carrying a box full of liquor home is actually a half decent workout. -
2017-01-28 at 3:26 AM UTCWhen I was a kid I didn't value being in shape then you lose it and realize that doing 50 pushups is hard. Anyway I don't really respect anyone that isn't capable of throwing around their own body weight. Also sitting all day is terrible for you, worse than smoking, so bad that no amount of exercise can compensate for sitting throughout an 8 hour work day (which is almost always more than 8 hours and accompanied by more sitting at home). If you do sit all day you should fidget as much as possible.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-01-28 at 3:30 AM UTCLifting weights or running are so fucking boring to me. I don't mind working out but it needs to be in the form of a competition like basketball or racquetball.
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2017-01-28 at 3:41 AM UTC
Originally posted by ACE I think a lot of problems on here is just age and hormonal problems. Because you are aging and just sitting on your ass feeling sorry for yourselves and doing drugs. I think that's what a lot of the suicidal thoughts come from. Yeah, we are all fucked, and you realize that more with age, but you can still feel good. Here are some things I've learned:
-To shed fat and get ripped in a few weeks all you have to do is eliminate carbs and exercise. Bear crawls and body weight exercises are fine. You can have a diet high in fat and protein and not crave food or be hungry.
-You can't get bigger without carbs (along with protein) your muscles aren't really going to grow. It's best to spike your insulin after a work out and get in a lot of protein and whatever other supplements you are on. If you are worried about your weight or gaining a little fat your muscles aren't going to grow. Without carbs you can be eating a shitload of calories and have a problem maintaining weight if you are working hard.
-You can get stronger without your muscles growing. In fact this is the goal for Olympic weight lifters and such.
-As far as a regular diet, I would say stick to a high fat/high protein low carb diet. Meat and leafy vegetables. I don't think there is one specific diet that humans are supposed to stick to all the time. But most of the time I think carbs are bad for humans. Cancer is fueled by glucose.
-For functional strength always do plyometric exercises after lifting heavy weights whether it's plyo pushups after benchpresses or box jumps after squats/deadlifts/leg presses etc.
-Don't exercise if you are still sore from the last time. Your muscles are healing and coming back bigger/stronger so if you are sore rest and eat foods for whatever your goal is. So that means if you are really pushing yourself you shouldn't be working out every day doing leg/upper body. If you really push yourself it should be leg/upper body/rest (or minimal exercise) or however you want to do it.
-Best exercises for boosting testosterone are benchpresses, rows, squats, deadlifts, cleans, anything that involves a lot of different muscles.
-Dumbells > Barbells for increasing gains on benchpressing/shoulder pressing, but they only go up so high. It's also a more functional strength you are building. By the time you get to benchpressing like 400lbs with barbells 100lb dumbells are about to be to light to work out with.
-Shoulder presses are probably the best exercise for building upper body strength and is better for building strength with benchpressing, probably more than benchpressing or it seems that way.
-Running long distances is counterproductive. It builds up hormones you don't want and you can get a better cardio workout jumping rope, sprinting, or with bear crawls. I'm not saying not to I'm just saying I see more negatives to it than positive. But running outside (obviously) is better than machines. If you had to I would say it would be best to do with a weighted vest and in the woods or on trails as opposed to concrete. It's just more of a challenge.
That's it for now. I may come back later to edit this as I think of stuff.
you over simplify an equation that has a lot more to it than just diet and hormones. you also dont take into account individual differences. some people take little to no effort to maintain a fit physique yet other can spend hours a week in the gym and still have a spare tire.
carbs have nothing to do with getting bigger. carbs are energy...plain and simple. protein is the exclusive builder (in the triumverate of fats and carbs) of the human body. any consumption of carbs in excess of the direct energy needs will be turned into bodyfat, with a smaller amount stockpiled in various places as glucose.
as with workout routines and how the body responds...diet is the same way. everyone has their own digestive enzymes and microbes that affect their food consumption as well as their bodys response to what they consume. some people so much as look at a fat and it instantly turns into a spare tire. additionally...there are so many different kinds of fat you cant just say 'eat fat.' newsflash...cancer isnt fueled by glucose. if youre going to make such ridiculous statements youre going to need to cite sources. which if you do will be so absurdly ridiculous they can easily be picked apart like a dead rodent in the middle of a field of ravenous king vultures.
there is no 'always' anything. there is no 'best' anything. there is no '>' or '<' anything...its what an individual best responds to. everyones physiology is different. I can control and press 100lb dumbells but i sure to holy merry fuck couldnt bench 400lbs.
i dont feel like typing any more...maybe some other time ill respond to the rest. you get an 'a' for effort but your total comprehension and delivery is lacking. -
2017-01-28 at 4:23 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock carbs have nothing to do with getting bigger.
lol this is so fuckin wrong it's not even funny. Anyone who knows anything knows you need carbs to build muscle. -
2017-01-28 at 4:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny That's not what I'm talking about
People say that and yet I remain doubtful. I think Raymond Chandler novels are addictive and yet when someone says they don't like them my default response isn't "durr, u just need 2 read more and drive a classic american car while wearing a fedora, you haven't had the real experience". Some people just don't like some things, I don't know what about people who are into physical fitness makes them think their hobby is magically universally enjoyable.
I'm sure that's entirely true even if it's contradictory to a dozen other fitness dogmas, err I mean cults, err I mean regimens but "the best version of myself" isn't a function of my ability to uhh, lift heavy things? I really don't mean to shit on people who are into it, I totally understand the appeal even if I don't experience it personally, I just don't really care about being "shredded". Everyone has different priorities, what matters to me might mean nothing to you, and for some of us physical strength just isn't on the list of things worth giving a shit about. I mean not dying in my 40s is worth something, but it turns out you can be physically healthy with significantly less effort than it takes to be ripped or shredded or torn or grated.
I could win an olympic medal for the 10 block dash-to-bevmo. Actually carrying a box full of liquor home is actually a half decent workout.
Then what are you talking about?
That's a bad analogy. When it comes to the media we consume of course people have different opinions. But I don't know a single human who doesn't enjoy a fat endorphin release. -
2017-01-28 at 10:57 AM UTC
Originally posted by greenplastic lol this is so fuckin wrong it's not even funny. Anyone who knows anything knows you need carbs to build muscle.
then you and anyone are both fucking retarded as well as inadequately informed on basic human physiology.
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2017-01-28 at 11:39 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock you over simplify an equation that has a lot more to it than just diet and hormones. you also dont take into account individual differences. some people take little to no effort to maintain a fit physique yet other can spend hours a week in the gym and still have a spare tire.
carbs have nothing to do with getting bigger. carbs are energy…plain and simple. protein is the exclusive builder (in the triumverate of fats and carbs) of the human body. any consumption of carbs in excess of the direct energy needs will be turned into bodyfat, with a smaller amount stockpiled in various places as glucose.
as with workout routines and how the body responds…diet is the same way. everyone has their own digestive enzymes and microbes that affect their food consumption as well as their bodys response to what they consume. some people so much as look at a fat and it instantly turns into a spare tire. additionally…there are so many different kinds of fat you cant just say 'eat fat.' newsflash…cancer isnt fueled by glucose. if youre going to make such ridiculous statements youre going to need to cite sources. which if you do will be so absurdly ridiculous they can easily be picked apart like a dead rodent in the middle of a field of ravenous king vultures.
there is no 'always' anything. there is no 'best' anything. there is no '>' or '<' anything…its what an individual best responds to. everyones physiology is different. I can control and press 100lb dumbells but i sure to holy merry fuck couldnt bench 400lbs.
i dont feel like typing any more…maybe some other time ill respond to the rest. you get an 'a' for effort but your total comprehension and delivery is lacking.
Maybe not all people are the same. I have always gained strength easily but I've never been super big or had a really low body fat % until I started doing all this.
But try to find a bodybuilder that doesn't eat carbs. You will gain body fat % while bulking. You're not putting on size without doing that. You want to be insulin sensitive and that helps deliver protein to the muscle. When I was on a high fat/high protein diet I was trying to lose body fat % while maintaining my weight (for the most part. I lost like 5-10 lbs) and anyone who wants to see the results I can send pictures. But I thought it was my calories. A lot of people say you need a lot of calories to grow. But I was struggling just to maintain weight. When I eat the same amount without excluding carbs I get big pretty fast. Yeah you will lose some definition but it happens. You cut back later and lose the excess fat. People argue about simple vs complex...idk about all that. But spiking your insulin after a hard work out and consuming a lot of protein with it, and creatine etc. is the best way to do it. (If you are trying to get big)
As far as strength, if you can do 8-12 reps with 90-95lb dumbells on incline, decline and flat your max with barbells should be over 350...well maybe not incline, but say use them for decline and flat and like 8-12 reps with 80-85lb dumbells for incline...but as far as that yeah different people would be different but 190lbs of dumbells isn't the same thing as 190lbs on a bar. And I've heard a lot of other people say it's best for building strength too. I only started using barbells to see where I was for a max on flat benchpresses and kind of got addicted to it, but dumbbell benchpresses will get the most gains in strength up to a point.
You also don't want your body fat less than 8%. But if you aren't worried about getting bigger you could stick with the high protein/high fat thing and still get really strong. You won't get bigger though if you are really worried about losing any definition or anything like that though because it is necessary.
Post last edited by ACE at 2017-01-28T11:42:37.190502+00:00
EDIT: I'm not really trying to gain weight at the moment. I don't max out because I think it's a waste of energy but on bench with barbells my 1 rep max is roughly twice my body weight (supposed to be) give or take 5-10lbs. Within the next few weeks it's going to be over twice my body weight. After I get over that I may start trying to get bigger for a little while. My point is I'm not even eating a lot of carbs right now. Hardly any.
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2017-01-28 at 12:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Lifting weights or running are so fucking boring to me. I don't mind working out but it needs to be in the form of a competition like basketball or racquetball.
Heres a video of you playing ball
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2017-01-28 at 1:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock then you and anyone are both fucking retarded as well as inadequately informed on basic human physiology.
go google it, idiot.
Mass-building requires energy, through high carbohydrate intake. "To gain mass, you have to ensure you're getting enough protein to rebuild muscle tissue damaged through training, but you also have to eat a lot of carbohydrates because gaining size requires you to fill your muscles with glycogen," he says.
http://www.muscleandfitness.com/nutrition/gain-mass/how-much-protein-carbohydrate-and-fat-do-you-need
Carbohydrates spare protein and are your body's principal source of fuel. They provide the energy necessary for intense workouts more efficiently than any other energy source. Protein needs carbohydrates to work.
In fact, starving your body of carbohydrates during and after periods of intense exercise will likely cause your body to use protein as an energy source. In severe cases of low carbohydrate for prolonged periods, this may even result in the breakdown of hard-earned muscle proteins to be used as fuel during workouts or to replenish muscle glycogen after training.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/planet27.htm
Carbohydrates are the main source of fuel for our bodies... if you don't consume enough, your body will break down muscle for amino acids it can convert into glucose. Glycogen is the stored form of Carbohydrates in the body, and under normal circumstances, the body can store about 400 grams at a time.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/lean-mass-building-nutrition-secrets.htm
One of the most problematic myths that I constantly hear is that carbohydrates are your worst enemy. Many of us have been trained to avoid or to try and significantly limit carbs because carbs are sugar, and sugar makes you fat, and fat is bad…right
Wrong. Protein is necessary when it comes to muscle growth, but carbohydrates also play an important role in helping you maintain and gain muscle mass.
http://relentlessgains.com/how-many-carbs-should-you-eat-to-build-muscle/
Literally like the first 4 relevant results when I google it. You're just one of those morons who learned all their shit from a gym buddy who was talking out their ass so you take it as the word of god. I fucking despise people like you. -
2017-01-28 at 3:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by greenplastic Mass-building requires energy, through high carbohydrate intake. "To gain mass, you have to ensure you're getting enough protein to rebuild muscle tissue damaged through training, but you also have to eat a lot of carbohydrates because gaining size requires you to fill your muscles with glycogen," he says.
http://www.muscleandfitness.com/nutrition/gain-mass/how-much-protein-carbohydrate-and-fat-do-you-need
Carbohydrates spare protein and are your body's principal source of fuel. They provide the energy necessary for intense workouts more efficiently than any other energy source. Protein needs carbohydrates to work.
In fact, starving your body of carbohydrates during and after periods of intense exercise will likely cause your body to use protein as an energy source. In severe cases of low carbohydrate for prolonged periods, this may even result in the breakdown of hard-earned muscle proteins to be used as fuel during workouts or to replenish muscle glycogen after training.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/planet27.htm
Carbohydrates are the main source of fuel for our bodies… if you don't consume enough, your body will break down muscle for amino acids it can convert into glucose. Glycogen is the stored form of Carbohydrates in the body, and under normal circumstances, the body can store about 400 grams at a time.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/lean-mass-building-nutrition-secrets.htm
One of the most problematic myths that I constantly hear is that carbohydrates are your worst enemy. Many of us have been trained to avoid or to try and significantly limit carbs because carbs are sugar, and sugar makes you fat, and fat is bad…right
Wrong. Protein is necessary when it comes to muscle growth, but carbohydrates also play an important role in helping you maintain and gain muscle mass.
http://relentlessgains.com/how-many-carbs-should-you-eat-to-build-muscle/
Literally like the first 4 relevant results when I google it. You're just one of those morons who learned all their shit from a gym buddy who was talking out their ass so you take it as the word of god. I fucking despise people like you.
thats what i get for thinking someone on the internets...much less this site...is capable of performing a simple task. those sources dont count as sources...the authors are varying degrees useless-idiot...such as yourself.
since youre obviously an idiot, ill break this down for you as simply as i possibly can:
in the most basest structural form...carbohydrates do not possess the physical characteristics to perform the function of building muscle. the only task carbohydrates are capable of fulfilling is energy functions as in fuel for the muscles. the human body is capable of digesting carbohydrates into a base form that produces energy but not into any form capable of building any structure...especially muscle...within the human body. the human body is capable of digesting proteins into its intended base forms that build the structures...including muscle...within the human body. additionally, in the event the human body is lacking energy in either carbohydrate or fat sources, it is capable of digesting proteins...including those tissues already existing within the human body...into carbohydrates for fuel/energy. i know there are some big words there, but if you dont grasp the concepts...automatically consider my stance in the argument correct by default because you lack the basic understanding of human physiology.
Originally posted by greenplastic Mass-building requires energy, through high carbohydrate intake. "To gain mass, you have to ensure you're getting enough protein to rebuild muscle tissue damaged through training, but you also have to eat a lot of carbohydrates because gaining size requires you to fill your muscles with glycogen," he says.
http://www.muscleandfitness.com/nutrition/gain-mass/how-much-protein-carbohydrate-and-fat-do-you-need
any glycogen in the muscles is purely for short term use as conversion to the actual energy source of the muscles...glucose. the quantities within muscles are insignificant in terms of muscle mass and contribute virtually nothing to overall size. that author is obviously an idiot...good choice on reference material
Originally posted by greenplastic Carbohydrates spare protein and are your body's principal source of fuel. They provide the energy necessary for intense workouts more efficiently than any other energy source.
probably not the best quote to use since it supports my argument at the expense of yours
Originally posted by greenplastic Protein needs carbohydrates to work.
yea...umm...no.
false. author = idiot
like i already said...the human body can produce carbs from protein but cannot produce protein from carbs
Originally posted by greenplastic In fact, starving your body of carbohydrates during and after periods of intense exercise will -LIKELY- cause your body to use protein as an energy source. In severe cases of low carbohydrate for prolonged periods, this -MAY- even result in the breakdown of hard-earned muscle proteins to be used as fuel during workouts or to replenish muscle glycogen after training.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/planet27.htm
the human body only uses protein as an energy source when there are carbohydrates lacking, if there are no fat deposits to make use of. the intensity of exercise does not cause proteins to be digested into carbohydrates. starvation conditions are what causes proteins to be digested into carbs...not a basic workout.
read the words this author used...'likely'...'may'...as in, theyre not sure. as in...they dont know what the fuck theyre talking about. as in...theyre an idiot.
you obviously have no idea where i learn't anything. id say we should both post shirtless selfies and let the other posters decide who knows more about physical fitness...but im not posting my pic. there is a shirtless pic of me from skanktuary or totse2 if anyone wants to go find it...although ive gained quite a bit of weight since then.
while there is quite a bit more for me to berate you on...i dont feel like typing anymore.
