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2019-09-27 at 3:22 AM UTCYa all having fun with your debates? I’ve been working my ass off for over 13 hrs, ughhhhhh. I’m beat.
Ok, well let me remind you that they didn’t even need the whistleblower complaint to impeach trump. He openly admitted to asking Ukraine’s president to investigate Biden and his son.
No need for the report at all ya see?
He solicited a “thing of value”.....to him. What’s fuckin funny is it’s looking like Biden may not even be the candidate
Just a refresher for those who may have missed it.Federal law prohibits a foreign national from directly or indirectly making a “contribution or donation of money or other thing of value” in connection with a U.S. election, and prohibits a person from soliciting, accepting or receiving such a contribution or donation from a foreign national. Federal law defines “contribution” to include “any gift … of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office.” And the FEC by regulation defines “solicit” to mean “to ask, request, or recommend, explicitly or implicitly, that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value.”
Now here’s where shit gets really good.And that’s all the law requires. Whether or not Ukraine came through, whether or not the communications involved a quid pro quo, the solicitation of a thing of value from the Ukraine President in connection with a U.S. election is a federal crime.
Oh and Skull, I do appreciate your intellectual responses. Doesn’t mean I have to agree with ya though.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-09-27 at 3:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo literally no one wants Hillary Clinton to be president except Hillary Clinton you have to stop using that because it makes you look stupid when it's easily discredited. Nobody gives a fuck who's president as long as it's not Trump but really tho, chances are pence would be a worse president. He would probably outlaw all sexual positions besides missionary and institute a national nap time
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2019-09-27 at 3:27 AM UTCThe dumb Dems in the House just made another huge error in their desperate haste to get at Trump. They created a new precedent where the majority can table and pass a motion which nullifies standing House rules, just so they could avoid taking a House vote on their so-called impeachment inquiry. They went for the nuclear option. This precedent of theirs can now be used by the Republicans as well, as soon as they regain control of the House. Any House rule can be overridden with a successful motion by the standing majority.
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2019-09-27 at 3:28 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Ya all having fun with your debates? I’ve been working my ass off for over 13 hrs, ughhhhhh. I’m beat.
Ok, well let me remind you that they didn’t even need the whistleblower complaint to impeach trump. He openly admitted to asking Ukraine’s president to investigate Biden and his son.
No need for the report at all ya see?
He solicited a “thing of value”…..to him. What’s fuckin funny is it’s looking like Biden may not even be the candidate
Just a refresher for those who may have missed it.
Now here’s where shit gets really good.
Oh and Skull, I do appreciate your intellectual responses. Doesn’t mean I have to agree with ya though.
Oh man. You must be beat love. Get in touch when you can. Love u -
2019-09-27 at 3:50 AM UTCThe Democrats know that there is no impeachable offense. What they intend to do is to use the investigation to look into every aspect of Trump’s life and try to make dirt out of things unrelated to his talk with the Ukrainian president. This “impeachment investigation” is a political act to help their candidate win the next presidential election.
Democrats themselves describe it in this way. For example, here is how Rob Kall, the director of one of the progressive Democrat websites, described the purpose of the investigation: “The idea should be to keep the impeachment going as long as possible, with new testimonies and new releases of disclosures of alleged corruption and treason on a regular basis. “Looking at impeachment as a process for removing the president is the wrong way of thinking about it. Looking at it as a key that gives access to investigative tools is the smarter, more strategic, way of looking at it.
“Ideally, it will get so bad for Trump that the Republicans will end up putting up someone else to run in the general election.
“But keeping him under investigation, at least through the November election, will increasingly erode the support of both Trump and the Republican party brand, making a Democratic takeover of the Senate and the White House, and an increased control of the House even more likely.”
In other words, it is a political power play.
The outcome depends on whether Americans see the impeachment investigation as another orchestrated hoax like Russiagate or whether they fall for the hoax as they initially did with the Russiagate investigation.
The United States does not have a media. It has a propaganda ministry that helps the ruling elites control the explanations that Americans are given. Polls show that Americans have lost confidence in the media. If so, the impeachment investigation will backfire on the Democrats.
The ultimate purpose of the constant attacks on Trump is to teach the American voters that electing a president who is disapproved by the Establishment is futile. The Establishment simply will not permit any change and will frustrate and destroy any president not selected by them as a candidate.
This is the real way so-called “American democracy” works. The establishment guides the selection of the Democrat and Republican candidates. Whichever wins, the Establishment wins. This didn’t happen in Trump’s case, and so he has to be prevented from altering the Establishment’s agendas.
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2019-09-27 at 3:53 AM UTCNo impeachable offense?
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2019-09-27 at 6:16 AM UTC
Originally posted by iam_asiam68 and that is also my point. but the deficit could be cut down to a 1/3 by making our Allies finally pay instead of still paying to protect them, to keep them afloat for their time of need, to allow the bandaid to keep being pulled and the blood to continue flowing.
when you extend to help…you go into debt.
a real friend or Ally, looks at the debt they have caused and repays it back to keep You stronger for protecting them!!
Trump wanted that but the Left Winged Nutjobs said, "hell no!!"
well the thing is no one is putting a gun to US's head and force it to 'help' the allies. the fact that the US is willing to pay more to put their boots on its allies soils is already a good indication of who needs who.
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2019-09-27 at 6:17 AM UTC
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2019-09-27 at 11:12 AM UTC
Originally posted by Jackrabbitpsych How? Explain in your own words cuz I hate when people cut and paste stuff…if you don't mind
America's strength and global hegemony is based on its economy, and retarded protectionist trade policies is quite literally the antithesis of what made America great in the first place. The US comprises 1/4th of the world's GDP and 3/4th of the world's Forex reserves are in USD. America's raw power is ultimately derived from the fact that EVERYBODY wants to do business with us, because American consumers have extreme purchasing power. On our end that's awesome because we can buy lots of shit or save lots of money.
The idea that these tariffs will bring back manufacturing jobs, it's frankly humiliating that almost half the US public believes it. The reason China can make shit cheaper is because their quality of life is way lower than ours. Manufacturing in the US is literally (I mean literally literally) never going to be competitive again, even in China their cheap workforce is losing jobs to automation.
Every time he enacts a new tariff, America loses, because the ONLY thing that ever happens is, the cost of the tariff is passed on to American consumers. Nobody buys less shit. Nobody buys more expensive American goods. You just have less money in your pocket at the end of the day. And even if you bought less shit, that's what it is: your purchasing power has gone down either way.
It's a way to tax American taxpayers more heavily while having literally zero benefit for American consumers, businesses etc. China etc are utterly unaffected by the tariffs on their end. Functionally all it is is a direct attack upon US consumers and businesses.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-09-27 at 11:24 AM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke America's strength and global hegemony is based on its economy, and retarded protectionist trade policies is quite literally the antithesis of what made America great in the first place. The US comprises 1/4th of the world's GDP and 3/4th of the world's Forex reserves are in USD. America's raw power is ultimately derived from the fact that EVERYBODY wants to do business with us, because American consumers have extreme purchasing power. On our end that's awesome because we can buy lots of shit or save lots of money.
The idea that these tariffs will bring back manufacturing jobs, it's frankly humiliating that almost half the US public believes it. The reason China can make shit cheaper is because their quality of life is way lower than ours. Manufacturing in the US is literally (I mean literally literally) never going to be competitive again, even in China their cheap workforce is losing jobs to automation.
Every time he enacts a new tariff, America loses, because the ONLY thing that ever happens is, the cost of the tariff is passed on to American consumers. Nobody buys less shit. Nobody buys more expensive American goods. You just have less money in your pocket at the end of the day. And even if you bought less shit, that's what it is: your purchasing power has gone down either way.
It's a way to tax American taxpayers more heavily while having literally zero benefit for American consumers, businesses etc. China etc are utterly unaffected by the tariffs on their end. Functionally all it is is a direct attack upon US consumers and businesses.
tl;dr - americans are lazy, pure and simple. -
2019-09-27 at 11:50 AM UTC
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2019-09-27 at 1:45 PM UTCSounds like more than trump is gonna go down for this.
Barr, giuliani, and possibly pence were involved in the cover up. How sweet. I think we’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg. Shits gonna get real😁 -
2019-09-27 at 1:49 PM UTCIt all comes out in the wash!
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2019-09-27 at 1:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jackrabbitpsych It's seems to me….and I'm not political at all, though I have known many politicians
He seems to be quite good at keeping international talks and connections going.
The US seems no worse today than it was 5 or even 10 years ago.
I don't think he is incorrect about other countries having to pay as well. We should not just be responsible for paying all the other countries, with no contributions from countries who as well benefit
The wall thing is going a bit far but I genuinely understand why that is such a big deal to him. On 9/11 He saw all the men in jersey city applauding as the buildings fell. He lost many many people very close to him as did I. These were people that should not have been in this country, that we let in and allowed them to stay and trained to destroy us. So he is going far but when things are personal. You do that …
He is egocentric….pompous and callus. I believe he often takes credit for things that maybe were not all his doing however he is the first president I can think of, that isn't just a "spokesperson" or the "face of America". He is an integral part of decision making.
I never ever have hated a president. I respect my country and therefor my president. Even with Bush hate. Obama hate etc. No one man is the cause of our demise or otherwise. To blame the president is just silly …that being said for failures or for successes …I will hold Trump more accountable than any other president before him
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2019-09-27 at 1:51 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-09-27 at 2:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL So-called "fact checkers" are more like opinion editorials.
Originally posted by 8stringflinG Ah yes the fake news runs deep. Only FOX and other right wing news is accurate. Lefty, centrist, and objective news is fake news and should be illegal. How dare they hurt President Trump
https://twitter.com/lilagracerose/status/1174775874366787586
"BREAKING: In a meeting today with @HawleyMO, Mark Zuckerberg said @facebook was wrong to censor me & @LiveAction, that there was clear bias, and that the “fact checkers” were activists." -
2019-09-27 at 2:05 PM UTCThat's Facebook not Factchecker
Also not any sort of evidence lmao
