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2019-08-14 at 11:36 PM UTCWatch roshambo kill it kind of
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2019-08-14 at 11:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano Again, there is no reason that health insurance cannot be 95% automated by AI that does everything instantly once the bill is received, which should be almost right away. It takes months always and it's always looming over your head when you're not a healthy person
So what happens if you're not covered? They just let you die? -
2019-08-15 at 12:31 AM UTC
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2019-08-15 at 12:33 AM UTCor you move to mexico and sneak onto their gubbament pwogwams and collect your $766 a month
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2019-08-15 at 12:34 AM UTCno, what you do is stop working so you can get on the free insurance like me lol
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2019-08-15 at 12:36 AM UTCWhen I get sick I just pray to Jesus and he makes it all better for free.
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2019-08-15 at 12:59 AM UTC= a brain storm
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2019-08-15 at 2:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano Because people with good plans do not want to downgrade to "more affordable" but crappier plans that don't make up the difference plus tax hikes
Thats not how it works. Higher taxes, yes, but everyone would be able to get care from any doctor they want. No plans. It comes out cheaper anyway, Americans pay 2-3x more for Healthcare than those with socialized systems. There's no reason to privatize the health industry other than wanton capitalism. -
2019-08-15 at 2:44 AM UTCIt'd be nice to have taxes actually go towards something that actually benefits me as well
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2019-08-15 at 3:05 AM UTC"Temporarily embarrassed millionaires" mindset tbh.
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2019-08-15 at 3:28 AM UTCHealthcare services cost so much because of the cost it takes to train people and supply and demand, being not enough supply which is why wages are raised, which is why school costs more and prices go up.
Drugs cost so much because there is no freedom in the drug industry and because of the FDA being so ritsy titsy that they won't accept data from other countries and demand all research be conducted here in the US even if it takes 7 years and millions for no reason.
When I say no freedom, I mean that the doctor has 100% control over what prescription healthcare products you may purchase, and you have 0%. Your doctor does not know what insurance you have or what you can afford and doesn't care, and he doesn't know what the drugs cost and he doesn't care. He prescribed what he thinks is optimal, yet with absolutely no regard to price, which doesn't matter to him. When he picks the drug that costs $400 a month instead of $4, he has the only say and you have no challenge. The only CHOICE you have in this system is whether you want to buy the one product that he says you can buy, or you can purchase nothing.
And yes, profits must be taken into account of course, but that doesn't mean that a measure like forcing the doctor to give you a printout of the costs of similar treatments and letting you petition him due to inability to pay wouldn't keep things working for people of all classes.
Ever notice how Tylenol doesn't cost $375 for 30 pills when generic acetaminophen or ibuprofen costs $1.50 for 30 pills? That's because it has to compete with itself and with other drugs in the painkilling class. So it can charge more, but it cannot, by law of free markets, gouge you and still be profitable. -
2019-08-15 at 4:13 AM UTCAbsolutely didn't read
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2019-08-15 at 4:26 AM UTCyou know i'm not saying ยงmยฃรgรLs huge, but if i had to name 5 of the fattest people i know, he'd be 3 of them.
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2019-08-15 at 4:30 AM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano Healthcare services cost so much because of the cost it takes to train people and supply and demand, being not enough supply which is why wages are raised, which is why school costs more and prices go up.
Drugs cost so much because there is no freedom in the drug industry and because of the FDA being so ritsy titsy that they won't accept data from other countries and demand all research be conducted here in the US even if it takes 7 years and millions for no reason.
When I say no freedom, I mean that the doctor has 100% control over what prescription healthcare products you may purchase, and you have 0%. Your doctor does not know what insurance you have or what you can afford and doesn't care, and he doesn't know what the drugs cost and he doesn't care. He prescribed what he thinks is optimal, yet with absolutely no regard to price, which doesn't matter to him. When he picks the drug that costs $400 a month instead of $4, he has the only say and you have no challenge. The only CHOICE you have in this system is whether you want to buy the one product that he says you can buy, or you can purchase nothing.
And yes, profits must be taken into account of course, but that doesn't mean that a measure like forcing the doctor to give you a printout of the costs of similar treatments and letting you petition him due to inability to pay wouldn't keep things working for people of all classes.
Ever notice how Tylenol doesn't cost $375 for 30 pills when generic acetaminophen or ibuprofen costs $1.50 for 30 pills? That's because it has to compete with itself and with other drugs in the painkilling class. So it can charge more, but it cannot, by law of free markets, gouge you and still be profitable.
i'm surprised the health insurance companies in the us don't apply pressure on doctors to prescribe the cheaper options tho.
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2019-08-15 at 4:33 AM UTC
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2019-08-15 at 6:25 AM UTC
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2019-08-15 at 8:37 AM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke "Temporarily embarrassed millionaires" mindset tbh.
"Millionaires in waiting" is the best one I've heard
I think a good portion of it is that people on expensive plans derive a sense of pride from being able to afford them, and improving the conditions of the people who can't narrows their 'superiority' -
2019-08-15 at 8:41 AM UTCThey want to make sure they have a foot on the face of at least a person or two.
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2019-08-15 at 11:34 AM UTC
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2019-08-15 at 1:08 PM UTC