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Ohio shooting
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2019-08-10 at 5:16 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra he had like 20 of what I believe were the same platform, though I don't think the list of weapons was ever officially released.
it's been a long time since I watched the video so I'll skim it again before I comment further.
introducing a 'stealth helicopter' just makes the idea of multiple shooters seem more ridiculous so good job spec
either hes paid to discredit conspiracy nuts or a volunteer. -
2019-08-10 at 5:51 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra .. introducing a 'stealth helicopter' just makes the idea of multiple shooters seem more ridiculous so good job spec
Go right ahead and explain the helicopters documented on radar, taking off, backtracking, then turning off their transponders right at the Mandalay Bay, seconds before the shooting, then turning them back on again right after the shooting. -
2019-08-10 at 5:53 AM UTCwhere were they documented?
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2019-08-10 at 5:56 AM UTC
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2019-08-10 at 5:57 AM UTCno a link to actual radar data will do
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2019-08-10 at 5:58 AM UTC
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2019-08-10 at 6 AM UTC
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2019-08-10 at 6 AM UTCNo, I'm not watching anymore idiot YouTube videosThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-08-10 at 6:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny the thing is that according to his audio analysis there are two bursts of equally consistent shots, set a and set b instead of a gradual increase or decrease between the time the bullets hit the floor and shots heard.
and the direction of the second shooter was determined by by guessing / speculating the most likely place a secind shooter can shoot from relative to paddock's location.
so if paddock was shooting from 500 yards from the concert floor, then there can be only a few other places that is 300 yards away from the concert floor that can give the second shooter the vantage point needed to produce more or less the same shot pattern as paddock.
To me all that says is it could be anything ranging from using 2 different types of ammo to aiming at 2 different sets of general angles so there are two consistent sets of shot distances. Could be anything, you literally do not know shit with 1 mic audio.
As shown in my above linked video, at the very least his assumptions NB about the rounds used are bullshit and calculations are way off. -
2019-08-10 at 6:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Go right ahead and explain the helicopters documented on radar, taking off, backtracking, then turning off their transponders right at the Mandalay Bay, seconds before the shooting, then turning them back on again right after the shooting.
Wow what stealth, this enormous government conspiracy didn't account for... The GPS on their "stealth" helicopters? -
2019-08-10 at 7:33 AM UTCWait actually they did... But the stealth helis just didn't turn it off till they were in position rather than simply not having their transponders on at all
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2019-08-10 at 9:35 AM UTCground radar stations have a minimum altitude for detection...
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2019-08-10 at 9:56 AM UTCMy conspiracy theory is that most that conspiracy theories are generated by a government conspiracy so people do t look at actual government conspiracies.
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2019-08-10 at 10:23 AM UTC
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2019-08-10 at 10:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by Common De-mominator To me all that says is it could be anything ranging from using 2 different types of ammo to aiming at 2 different sets of general angles so there are two consistent sets of shot distances. Could be anything, you literally do not know shit with 1 mic audio.
As shown in my above linked video, at the very least his assumptions NB about the rounds used are bullshit and calculations are way off.
depends on what they found in the room and concert floor.
my guess is that those two sets of different acoustics were caused by gunner firing his gun with the muzzle behind the window and sticking out of it. -
2019-08-10 at 10:55 AM UTC
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2019-08-10 at 12:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny depends on what they found in the room and concert floor.
my guess is that those two sets of different acoustics were caused by gunner firing his gun with the muzzle behind the window and sticking out of it.
Could just be 2 types of rounds loaded into different guns tho. IMO that is the most likely scenario. -
2019-08-10 at 1:04 PM UTCMKUltra used numerous methods to manipulate people's mental states and alter brain functions, including the surreptitious administration of drugs (especially LSD) and other chemicals, hypnosis,[11][12] sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, and other forms of torture.[13][14] The scope of Project MKUltra was broad with research undertaken at 80 institutions, including colleges and universities, hospitals, prisons, and pharmaceutical companies.[15] The CIA operated through these institutions using front organizations, although sometimes top officials at these institutions were aware of the CIA's involvement.[16]
Project MKUltra was first brought to public attention in 1975 by the Church Committee of the United States Congress and Gerald Ford's United States President's Commission on CIA activities within the United States. Investigative efforts were hampered by CIA Director Richard Helms order that all MKUltra files to be destroyed in 1973; the Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission investigations relied on the sworn testimony of direct participants and on the relatively small number of documents that survived Helms's destruction order.[17]
They exported experiments to Canada when the CIA recruited British psychiatrist Donald Ewen Cameron, creator of the "psychic driving" concept, which the CIA found interesting. Cameron had been hoping to correct schizophrenia by erasing existing memories and reprogramming the psyche. He commuted from Albany, New York, to Montreal every week to work at the Allan Memorial Institute of McGill University and was paid $69,000 from 1957 to 1964 (which would be US$558,915 in 2018, adjusting for inflation) to carry MKUltra experiments there, the Montreal experiments. These research funds were sent to Dr. Cameron by a CIA front organization, the Society for the Investigation of Human Ecology, and as shown in internal CIA documents, Cameron did not know the money came from the CIA.[57] In addition to LSD, Cameron also experimented with various paralytic drugs as well as electroconvulsive therapy at thirty to forty times the normal power. His "driving" experiments consisted of putting subjects into drug-induced comas for weeks at a time (up to three months in one case) while playing tape loops of noise or simple repetitive statements. His experiments were often carried on patients who entered the institute for minor problems such as anxiety disorders and postpartum depression, many of whom suffered permanent effects from his actions.[58] His treatments resulted in victims' incontinence, amnesia, forgetting how to talk, forgetting their parents, and thinking their interrogators were their parents.[59]
Once Project MKUltra got underway in April 1953, experiments included administering LSD to mental patients, prisoners, drug addicts, and sex workers—"people who could not fight back," as one agency officer put it.[43] In one case, they administered LSD to a mental patient in Kentucky for 174 days.[43] They also administered LSD to CIA employees, military personnel, doctors, other government agents, and members of the general public to study their reactions. LSD and other drugs were often administered without the subject's knowledge or informed consent, a violation of the Nuremberg Code the U.S. had agreed to follow after World War II. The aim of this was to find drugs which would bring out deep confessions or wipe a subject's mind clean and program him or her as "a robot agent."[44]
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2019-08-10 at 4:04 PM UTC
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2019-08-10 at 6:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny and still have the same rate of fire [rpm] ?
Watch my previously linked video.
The same gun can fire different cartridges that have a huge range of different velocities. If he really had multiple of the same platform gun, it would be really easy to see him having 2 guns of the same type loaded with different ammo that has different speeds...
