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list of drugs no one should ever use
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2019-07-26 at 4:49 AM UTCif they dont want to destroy their lives
there was a diet drugs thread, now this is the thread of most unhealthy ones
-heroin
-meth
-spice
-phenibut (but your mileage may vary)
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2019-07-26 at 4:51 AM UTCmaybe crack belongs on this list but i find it to be a fairly underwhelming substance thats incredibly fiendish but doesnt cause mind-control levels of addiction after being away from it for a few days. might just be my personal reaction to it
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2019-07-26 at 4:56 AM UTCrecreational T-PAIN
recreational loperamide
huffing (besides maybe ether/heptane only starter fluid, tetraflouroethane duster, or nitrous)
when i was in a blackout i stabbed a hole in a can of duster with a big knife for some reason i dont remember. maybe i was trying to do the whole can in 1 hit -
2019-07-26 at 4:59 AM UTCWhy the fuck is phenibut on that list?
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2019-07-26 at 5:06 AM UTC
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2019-07-26 at 5:07 AM UTCT-PAIN's fine if you don't overdo it
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2019-07-26 at 5:08 AM UTC
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2019-07-26 at 5:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra T-PAIN's fine if you don't overdo it
you might be right. T-PAIN and lope despite being underwhelming apparently have the worst withdrawals out of any opioid because of their peculiar mechanisms of action. so i included those because the chance of having the most painful months of life possible coming off of them is not worth the mild-moderate effects they cause -
2019-07-26 at 5:09 AM UTC
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2019-07-26 at 5:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by frumbob ππ¦ππ―π·π¦ you might be right. T-PAIN and lope despite being underwhelming apparently have the worst withdrawals out of any opioid because of their peculiar mechanisms of action. so i included those because the chance of having the most painful months of life possible coming off of them is not worth the mild-moderate effects they cause
I've only ever heard of terrence payne's withdrawals being bad if you IV it -
2019-07-26 at 5:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by JΟ icebox IV heroin has given me withdrawals after two days of use every time I've done it
i dont agree with people that say opioids dont have a hangover. like everything's fine until the withdrawals start. in my experience even one dose of an opioid is enough to cause a mild anhedonia and depression that lasts like 2 fucking weeks. the hangover effect can be subtle but it lasts so long that it's clearly a really fucking bad idea to mess with that brain system -
2019-07-26 at 5:13 AM UTCI believe that's only when you first start doing opioids, most people claiming there's no hangover effect have probably been doing it long enough they don't remember
I remember the first few times I tried oxy I got nausea and headaches for a while afterwards, nowhere near as bad as a regular alcohol hangover though -
2019-07-26 at 5:16 AM UTCi dont mean the puking and physical reactions people can have when overdoing it as a novice, more like i know if i take an opioid today just one dose the next half month of my life will be a somewhat sad hopeless world view. like i can clearly notice it rewiring my brain to feel no pleasure for a little while unless i take another dose
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2019-07-26 at 5:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I believe that's only when you first start doing opioids, most people claiming there's no hangover effect have probably been doing it long enough they don't remember
I remember the first few times I tried oxy I got nausea and headaches for a while afterwards, nowhere near as bad as a regular alcohol hangover though
Originally posted by frumbob ππ¦ππ―π·π¦ i dont mean the puking and physical reactions people can have when overdoing it as a novice, more like i know if i take an opioid today just one dose the next half month of my life will be a somewhat sad hopeless world view. like i can clearly notice it rewiring my brain to feel no pleasure for a little while unless i take another dose
I get a "sort of" hangover from opioids, but if I save just a little bit, even if it's below a threshold dose, for the morning after it usually fixes it
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2019-07-26 at 5:22 AM UTCyou always end up going back to it though. its insidious how they can pretty much kill off a person's sober happiness for months and years with regular use.
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2019-07-26 at 5:26 AM UTC-PCP
-Bath salts
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2019-07-26 at 5:32 AM UTC
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2019-07-26 at 5:35 AM UTCThis is gonna be controversial maybe, especially coming from me, but: bundy.
bundy is bad. Maybe the effects of its high aren't super horrible and it's not physically addictive, but it is so freely available and retardedly potent and (arguably) enjoyable that it is probably dangerous to fuck with. People who fuck(ed) with bundy hard are a rare breed of bizarre retards and I'm like 75% sure it was caused by the bundy rather than the other way around. -
2019-07-26 at 5:35 AM UTC
Originally posted by frumbob ππ¦ππ―π·π¦ i was considering pcp, but pcp analogs dont seem too dangerous. i think its just stigma. the others are spot on, but benadryl could be ok if youre a complete masochist
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2019-07-26 at 5:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by HTS This is gonna be controversial maybe, especially coming from me, but: bundy.
bundy is bad. Maybe the effects of its high aren't super horrible and it's not physically addictive, but it is so freely available and retardedly potent and (arguably) enjoyable that it is probably dangerous to fuck with. People who fuck(ed) with bundy hard are a rare breed of bizarre retards and I'm like 75% sure it was caused by the bundy rather than the other way around.
i believe that using bundy causes permanent and distinct personality changes to a person that can lower their ability to function. considering that tolerance to dissociatives can take years to go down, it means that these substances have an effect that alters the functioning of glutamate receptors for years. i dont know if pcp or ket and the -logs have the same sort of depravity-inducing chemical mechanics as bundy. but yeah everyone who has ever done bundy has a degree of bundy syndrome which means a sort of incomprehensible shitposting disorder