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What would realistically happen if the U.S. pulled out from every war and international conflict they are involved in?

  1. #41
    Originally posted by -SpectraL The US would go bankrupt and mass hunger would ensue. The US economy relies heavily upon the invasions of other countries. Without that gross domestic product of inflicting suffering and pain and death onto the world scene, they would no longer exist.

    Please be trolling
  2. #42
    Gas prices and electronics would go up slightly, and most of the first world would criticize us for not intervening in "gross human rights violations" yet will do nothing themselves, and eventually things would calm back down and we'd have a slightly more difficult time finding lawyers
  3. #43
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker It's not lost it's in the trunk of a 1973 Plymouth Fury III. Like I said I didn't lose I know right where I left it.

    In fact it was this color


    car reminds me of meta.

    i forgot what car he had but its the same big squarish monster from the 60/70s.
  4. #44
    Originally posted by Jฯ…icebox Gas prices and electronics would go up slightly, and most of the first world would criticize us for not intervening in "gross human rights violations" yet will do nothing themselves, and eventually things would calm back down and we'd have a slightly more difficult time finding lawyers

    gas price would drop significantly.

    the #1 oil user in the US is its military.
  5. #45
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by Sophie The world would be a better place.



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  6. #46
    Yeah, how much oil do we burn in all that military hoo hah?
  7. #47
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    short-term the world economy would implode, long-term is impossible to predict like pulling someone's spine out and guessing how they'll land.

    military force, or more specifically the threat of imminent military force is a cornerstone of US hegemony; without it the others (global finance, control over major shipping lanes etc.) would crumble (they already are to a degree). All of these institutions are designed to benefit the empire but also to be integral to the way the world currently operates so they can't simply be discarded. Russia and China are creating multilateral alternatives (Russia and China already have alternatives to SWIFT and have built BRICS funds specifically to compete with the IMF), but capacity is low, not all requirements are answered for and there's no way it'd be a smooth transition if other countries were forced to cut over without warning.

    which is another thing - if the US were forced to withdraw all of their foreign-stationed military, would Russia and China also have diminished economic and military power? what of Europe? the more powerful players still standing, the quicker the system would stabilise. if only one or two we'd likely see the same thing as the US, how it became sole hegemon after WWII by virtue of being the only industrial country that was largely untouched by the war. if none, it'd take much longer and much more suffering.
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  8. #48
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
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  9. #49
    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Originally posted by aldra if only one or two we'd likely see the same thing as the US, how it became sole hegemon after WWII by virtue of being the only industrial country that was largely untouched by the war. if none, it'd take much longer and much more suffering.

    Sounds like a good plan to me. Bring on WWIII. 1950's America was probably the most prosperous place and time in all of history.
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  10. #50
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by GGG Sounds like a good plan to me. Bring on WWIII. 1950's America was probably the most prosperous place and time in all of history.

    They rounded up brown people back then, and deported them back to their shitholes. Operation Wetback was explicitly racial, and intended to protect the terms and conditions of the white working class.
  11. #51
    Japan-Is-Eternal Naturally Camouflaged
    The NWO would collapse overnight, the middle east and China would team up to form a team against the west (Russia would probably join along too), there would be a world war for control over the planet etc etc
    Maybe 9/11 and the middle eastern wars were inside jobs afterall but ultimately for the good of Americans and the rest of the world.
  12. #52
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Anyone with an OZ of strategic sense cautioned Hitler against many fatal errors. You can't let mad mean have nukes.

    did you know hitler had chemical and bio weapons at his disposal but refused to use them?

    he didn't even use them against the russians when they were on his doorstep.


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  13. #53
    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Operation Wetback was explicitly racial, and intended to protect the terms and conditions of the white working class.

    Oh, just like what we're doing now?

  14. #54
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by -SpectraL The US would go bankrupt and mass hunger would ensue. The US economy relies heavily upon the invasions of other countries. Without that gross domestic product of inflicting suffering and pain and death onto the world scene, they would no longer exist.

    So we spend trillions on war and we get it back with profit how?
  15. #55
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by GGG Oh, just like what we're doing now?


    fail
  16. #56
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by GGG Oh, just like what we're doing now?


    I agree, both the Nazis and the Americans, way too soft.
  17. #57
    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker So we spend trillions on war and we get it back with profit how?

    Lol are you serious
  18. #58
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by GGG Lol are you serious

    Yes, please tell me how the trillions in taxes that the US spends on war creates a profit for the US government and it's tax payers.
  19. #59
    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker Yes, please tell me how the trillions in taxes that the US spends on war creates a profit for the US government and it's tax payers.

    It doesn't directly. .. The money is funneled to guys like Dick Cheny, former CEO of Halliburton who has built the majority of American military infrastructure since the 1960's. War is extremely profitable when you're the one selling all the lego pieces to wage that war. They lobby hard and get many people elected who will support their cause and help them continue to make money. Never heard of the military industrial complex?
  20. #60
    NARCassist gollums fat coach
    rebuilding projects after the war are also pretty profitable, but only for the companies doing the rebuilding. the taxpayer gets fuck all.


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