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2019-07-09 at 3:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by WellHung Dad? wut u think?
Said it before and I'll say it again: Almost nobody enters through the unprotected border. It is very easy to get a visa and arrive legally, then stay illegally or get a green card and stay legally.
He's wrong, Anyone living near the border in a border state know illegals are crossing illegally EVERY DAY/NIGHT. Most of the Central/South Americans don't even know what a visa is and certainly wouldn't qualify for one as many don't even have the necessary documents to get one (Passport for example) -
2019-07-09 at 3:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Short term vs long term.
Short term it's expensive, long term it will pay for itself, again 6 billion < 1 week of welfare, Many illegals and their offspring get welfare either directly or indirectly…then there is the cost to the health system and every paying member when they get health care they don't pay for.
You cannot apply for welfare as an illegal immigrant. I don't know where you got this idea but it's absolutely not true. Everybody on welfare is legal. In many states even having an illegal immigrant in your house will disqualify you for benefits. -
2019-07-09 at 3:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson He's wrong, Anyone living near the border in a border state know illegals are crossing illegally EVERY DAY/NIGHT. Most of the Central/South Americans don't even know what a visa is and certainly wouldn't qualify for one as many don't even have the necessary documents to get one (Passport for example)
I already gave hard statistics that prove you wrong. Any further discussion on this is pointless if you won't accept the facts.
And let's ignore the fact that immigration from Mexico to the US has been on a steady decline for the last 12 years. It's like a fourth of what it was. But fuck that. Let's build a wall anyway because the media has republicans shitting their pants at the thought of passing a brown person on the street. -
2019-07-09 at 3:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG You cannot apply for welfare as an illegal immigrant. I don't know where you got this idea but it's absolutely not true. Everybody on welfare is legal. In many states even having an illegal immigrant in your house will disqualify you for benefits.
You're very naive. Social security theft/ID theft is a thing. I have a Costa Rican friend for example whose very own uncle stole his ID for YEARS and when my friend was in his 20s he found out his illegal uncle had been using his SS# etc etc for years to gain all kinds of benefits. -
2019-07-09 at 3:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG I already gave hard statistics that prove you wrong.
"Almost nobody enters through the unprotected border"
Wrong. This is so ridiculous a statement that nothing else needs to be added.
"There are an estimated half million illegal entries into the United States each year. Illegal border crossings have declined considerably from 2000, when 71,000–220,000 migrants were apprehended each month, to 2018 when 20,000–40,000 migrants were apprehended." -
2019-07-09 at 4:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson "Almost nobody enters through the unprotected border"
Wrong. This is so ridiculous a statement that nothing else needs to be added.
"There are an estimated half million illegal entries into the United States each year. Illegal border crossings have declined considerably from 2000, when 71,000–220,000 migrants were apprehended each month, to 2018 when 20,000–40,000 migrants were apprehended."
And 700,000 on enter by plane/ship. 400,000 at the crossings.
About 60% of illegal crossings happen at the Rio Grande anyway. And we're at the lowest illegal immigration numbers since the 70's. (note that these are apprehensions, also note how there are more apprehensions than people who make it in illegally, implying that our border security is already fairly effective)
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2019-07-09 at 4:07 PM UTCOn the subject of ID/document theft. There is an indoor flea market 5 miles from where I work right now that when you walk in has a big sign up saying "green cards, SS#, Passports $50"
It's been there for years...why the authorities don't do shit about it I don't know. We had one working here a few years ago, she showed me her green card which was stolen/doctored with her picture and it looked 100% legit (compared to my legal green card)...cost her $50.
My first green card 18yrs ago went missing in the mail and I had to wait nearly a year for a replacement. Probably stolen in the post office. I asked at immigration if I could pay to have the replacement (which I had to pay another $300 application fee for) sent registered delivery and I'd pay for it...they said "no", we mail them all out standard mail.
There are thousands upon thousands of greencards, SS cards etc etc intercepted by negroidian postal workers and sold for use to illegal beaners annually. The filthy animals. -
2019-07-09 at 4:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by GGG And 700,000 on enter by plane/ship. 400,000 at the crossings.
Which doesn't detract from the numbers crossing illegally. The wall is to stop/minimize them...not the ones with visas or plane tickets duh...irrelevant and again your statement of "nobody" is ludicrous as demonstrated by the figures.
The argument "Well more people do it this way" is so rere and irrelevant is like a special ed person is using it.
NO shit more people do it other ways...is that reason to open the borders to everyone who walks across? so dumb lolol -
2019-07-09 at 4:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson He's wrong, Anyone living near the border in a border state know illegals are crossing illegally EVERY DAY/NIGHT. Most of the Central/South Americans don't even know what a visa is and certainly wouldn't qualify for one as many don't even have the necessary documents to get one (Passport for example)
There are approximately ten million illegals in the country right now. And the simple, but useful, idiots think they all just waltzed through the customs system. -
2019-07-09 at 4:14 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-07-09 at 4:15 PM UTCTalking about ID theft
You really are a propaganda sheep. -
2019-07-09 at 4:21 PM UTC
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2019-07-09 at 4:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by Common De-mominator This is a cuck emotional argument you could employ for anything.
Traffic accidents kill 40K people in the US annually, we could probably bring that number close to zero if you wanted to make the speed limit 10mph. But that would be retarded because nobody wants to drive around at 10mph all the time. So we accept a degree of risk we deem necessary or convenient. You'd save way more lives than building a border wall.
"B-but if your daughter might not have died if we had a 10mph speed limit, you might think differently about the convenience of going more than 10mph!"
Sure but then that's an unreasonable and emotionally driven, self centered concern that has zero bearing on what the society at large should do.
"but driving and vehicular travels are necessities, immigrants are not". -
2019-07-09 at 4:29 PM UTCAlso school zones do have a 20mph (here in Houston) speed limit for that very reason, because 20mph hits are rarely fatal. lolol
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2019-07-09 at 4:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson I think that's a conservative estimate..more like 20 million.
And probably at least half of those illegals, who aren't even eligible to vote, are voting Democrat, with the drivers licenses the Democrats just handed to them. That's at least five million bogus/illegal votes being counted as legitimate, on the conservative side. Now, if that ain't real election meddling/interference by the Democrats, then there ain't no such a thing. -
2019-07-09 at 4:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL And probably at least half of those illegals, who aren't even eligible to vote, are voting Democrat, with the drivers licenses the Democrats just handed to them. That's at least five million bogus/illegal votes being counted as legitimate, on the conservative side. Now, if that ain't real election meddling/interference by the Democrats, then there ain't no such a thing.
I'm a legal immigrant...in the 22yrs I've been here I've got Jury summons 5 times. I've called the courthouse to tell them "I can't do Jury duty as I'm not a citizen".
Once the idiot at the court said to me "so? you can still do it"...I had to explain to the court employee that no...non citizens can't adjudicate over citizens...they put me on hold for about 15 mins to go find out and then came back and said "OK"...fucking sad that I had to educate the court worker on their own fucking laws... -
2019-07-09 at 4:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL And probably at least half of those illegals, who aren't even eligible to vote, are voting Democrat, with the drivers licenses the Democrats just handed to them. That's at least five million bogus/illegal votes being counted as legitimate, on the conservative side. Now, if that ain't real election meddling/interference by the Democrats, then there ain't no such a thing.
Holy shit do you take your Fox news via IV drip? -
2019-07-09 at 4:46 PM UTC
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2019-07-09 at 5:23 PM UTC
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2019-07-09 at 5:28 PM UTCI'm going to beat my illegal Mexican maid this evening in honor of this thread.
