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The Retarded Thread: Malice Metro Edition
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2019-06-18 at 7:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by Octavian Yeah till I start buying more stuff for my apartment, games console etc, I just lie back and watch shit on Youtube. I'm going to start getting back into reading. My main priority is sobriety, everything else will fall into place once maintained.
If it's really your main priority you'll do the only reasonable thing which is to get help. You don't have to go to inpatient, although that is by far the best option. At least getting an eval and going to outpatient treatment is miles ahead of whatever you're doing.
You also live in a country with basically free healthcare; I don't. I had to meet a $1300 deductible plus pay several hundreds of dollars, if not over a thousand out of pocket for prescriptions to go get sober. You don't have to do that, which tells me that choosing not to go get free help means that it simply is not your first priority; or that you are, respectfully, in a delusion.
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2019-06-18 at 7:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano If it's really your main priority you'll do the only reasonable thing which is to get help. You don't have to go to inpatient, although that is by far the best option. At least getting an eval and going to outpatient treatment is miles ahead of whatever you're doing.
You also live in a country with basically free healthcare; I don't. I had to meet a $1300 deductible plus pay several hundreds of dollars, if not over a thousand out of pocket for prescriptions to go get sober. You don't have to do that, which tells me that choosing not to go get free help means that it simply is not your first priority; or that you are, respectfully, in a delusion.
Go get help.
You're right man. It's just I see an addict as someone using everyday n shit. Every weekend I wouldn't class as an addiction, but I make up for it through how much I consume when spread out over a few days when it becomes a bender. I do need help though. -
2019-06-18 at 7:37 PM UTCIn the US we have have what's called Residential, Day Treatment, Intensive Outpatient, and Outpatient.
Resi is however long your insurance says you can stay (avg. of 21 days, sometimes as little as 5 lol. I got 28 cuz I'm special) Day Treatment is 5-6hrs/d 4 days a week, IOP is 3hrs/d for 4 then 3 then 2 days a week each stage about 6 weeks long, Outpatient is 1-2 days a week 3hrs/d. You can't really start at regular Outpatient, they won't let you. It's a step-down level.
Many guys start out in IOP so they can keep working, and it's usually just enough to keep you afloat, but it's not enough to hash out your demons and figure out why you keep imploding and how do you accept yourself and the world and life and get what you want out of it. That stuff only comes from Resi, or at least Day Treatment where you have more time to process things in depth every day and pray you make it through the weekend.
The best part about Resi and DT is that you aren't with a hodgepoge of addicts who are already sober for months and years, you're with a bunch of other guys who just got of detox ward and probably drank on the way there the first day that are battling out the earliest stage of recovery right there with you. It's intense and daunting, but it's awesome.
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2019-06-18 at 7:48 PM UTCSemi-related:
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2019-06-18 at 9:41 PM UTCMy fucking legs itch like fuck. There's what feels like multiple fatty lumps in my calves.
Is this leukhemia?
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2019-06-18 at 9:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo It doesn't even seem like he's getting good coke rn anyway. He said he did 4 grams in a day, 4 grams of pure to yourself is insane and unnecessary. I've read a bit about the street level cocaine of Britain being of a typically higher quality but this doesn't seem to be his case which is even more depressing.
Coke isn't what you need to be doing. Plan to get your dopamine from other things. Money, altruism, sex, food etc all give it to you, it sounds like these things aren't enough for you in your life in its current form. Look at fucking fubi, he used to shoot heroin and drink his own piss and now he's apparently a fine upstanding country gentleman.
Coke is for peasants and oligarchs, not for lower middle class yobs fresh off the dole. You got this
the thing with coke heads is when they get together they start competing who can do the most. it gets so you gotta stick grams up your nose every five minutes just to stay one of the boys.
and then once you get to feeding a chick or two it gets crazy expensive.
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2019-06-18 at 9:45 PM UTC
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2019-06-18 at 9:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano If it's really your main priority you'll do the only reasonable thing which is to get help. You don't have to go to inpatient, although that is by far the best option. At least getting an eval and going to outpatient treatment is miles ahead of whatever you're doing.
You also live in a country with basically free healthcare; I don't. I had to meet a $1300 deductible plus pay several hundreds of dollars, if not over a thousand out of pocket for prescriptions to go get sober. You don't have to do that, which tells me that choosing not to go get free help means that it simply is not your first priority; or that you are, respectfully, in a delusion.
Go get help.
the fact is until you get to the point in yourself where you've genuinely had enough then all the rehab and detox programs won't do shit. in short if you need to go into rehab, then you don't need to go in to rehab. because it will be a waste of time.
the thing is once you've reached the point where you've genuinely had enough, you'll find giving it up easy as shit. because you will be genuinely committed to stopping.
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2019-06-18 at 9:49 PM UTCHave you ever gotten to that point Narc?
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2019-06-18 at 9:50 PM UTCyeah, about 10 years ago. i was mad addicted before that.
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2019-06-18 at 9:58 PM UTCWhat’d you do?
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2019-06-18 at 10:08 PM UTCRang the NHS line n they are sending an out of hours doc to my apartment. I may as well make use of a free service, my tax pays for it.
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2019-06-18 at 10:09 PM UTCDue to your itchy legs?
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2019-06-18 at 10:15 PM UTC
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2019-06-18 at 10:15 PM UTCJk go to a doctor tho
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2019-06-18 at 10:15 PM UTC
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2019-06-18 at 10:17 PM UTCHmmm, well I’m glad he’s coming out. Hopefully it’s something small, and he can ease your mind. I hope🤞
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2019-06-18 at 10:19 PM UTC
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2019-06-18 at 10:21 PM UTCItchy skin can be a number of things. I’m glad you'll be seeing someone.
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2019-06-19 at 2:03 AM UTC.