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2019-05-28 at 5:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL The problem isn't capitalism. Capitalism is good. The actual problem is crony capitalism. Two completely different animals. The ironic part is that the two are like night and day, yet almost no one seems to know the difference. How can anyone solve a problem when they don't even know what it is?
I think the problem is there doesn't seem to be a way to separate a capitalist economy from the government that's supposed to regulate it. When businesses become able to influence regulation to their own benefit, 'cronyism' becomes unavoidable.
***ffs, https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3a13qe -
2019-05-28 at 5:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I think the problem is there doesn't seem to be a way to separate a capitalist economy from the government that's supposed to regulate it.
thats the wrong way to look at it.
we dont need the government. all we need is set up another company, private or public to look out for the wellbeing of the society and its citizenry. -
2019-05-28 at 5:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny thats the wrong way to look at it.
we dont need the government. all we need is set up another company, private or public to look out for the wellbeing of the society and its citizenry.
That's the wrong way to look at it. all we need is to set up another govt to look out for the well-being of society and its citizenry. -
2019-05-28 at 6:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny thats the wrong way to look at it.
we dont need the government. all we need is set up another company, private or public to look out for the wellbeing of the society and its citizenry.
then you'd have a government that was a wholly-owned subsidiary of the current most-powerful company -
2019-05-28 at 7:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny capitalism is by its nature, cronystic.
Wrong. If I sell you a goat for a donkey, that's capitalism, and there's nothing wrong with that. If I sell you a goat for 100 donkeys, after I've already hoarded every goat in the town, that's crony capitalism, and there is something wrong with that. -
2019-05-28 at 8:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Wrong. If I sell you a goat for a donkey, that's capitalism, and there's nothing wrong with that. If I sell you a goat for 100 donkeys, after I've already hoarded every goat in the town, that's crony capitalism, and there is something wrong with that.
lolol... You're something else, speckles.👍😏 -
2019-05-28 at 8:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra We all support a system that can only continue by exploiting and victimizing huge numbers of people. When it all falls apart none of us will be able to say we were innocent
I'm innocent af, I barely make any impact on the world and the impact I do make it negative how tf am I supporting tha system dood? im a leech fam -
2019-05-28 at 8:16 PM UTC
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2019-05-28 at 8:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I think the problem is there doesn't seem to be a way to separate a capitalist economy from the government that's supposed to regulate it. When businesses become able to influence regulation to their own benefit, 'cronyism' becomes unavoidable.
***ffs, https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3a13qe
How is lobbying different in a socialist country? -
2019-05-28 at 8:39 PM UTC
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2019-05-29 at 1:17 AM UTC
Originally posted by DietYellow How is lobbying different in a socialist country?
I'm not certain but I don't think businesses directly lobbying the government is a thing - businesses certainly aren't treated as citizens like in most of the first-world western states. Employees or business owners typically present their concerns the same way as anyone else does, either directly to local representatives or through the ordinary channels like the Chinese CCP or the Iranian Basij -
2019-05-29 at 4:03 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra then you'd have a government that was a wholly-owned subsidiary of the current most-powerful company
which is already a something that most countries are and if everything is going on as they are, most countries with significant economic activities and trades are going to end up as capital feudalist societies. except sahara and sub saharan countries and its variety of sub humams of course.
and it will be better and more efficient if we just remove all the pretense and sadistic political rituals and replace the government with a corporation outright.
i dont know a lot about arsetrallia due to its insignificance but i imagine economies and economics form the majority of the talkpoints and political agendas there. -
2019-05-29 at 4:18 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Wrong. If I sell you a goat for a donkey, that's capitalism, and there's nothing wrong with that. If I sell you a goat for 100 donkeys, after I've already hoarded every goat in the town, that's crony capitalism, and there is something wrong with that.
wrong.
if you exchange your goat for my donkey, thats TRADE.
it only becomes capitalism when you begin to trade a lot of your goats for donkeys and accumulates them to be used for purposes other than to fulfill your basic donkey needs.
such as renting them out to men for transportational or sexual gratifications.
crony capitalism is just doing bussiness with someone and some group that you trust, ie, a friend, family members and relatives, and only a complete retard would prefer to do bussinesses with a complete strangers with unknown backgrounds and unproven track records over their known friends and families.
even drug dealers dont do that. at least not the smart ones. -
2019-05-29 at 4:23 AM UTC
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2019-05-29 at 4:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I'm not certain but I don't think businesses directly lobbying the government is a thing - businesses certainly aren't treated as citizens like in most of the first-world western states. Employees or business owners typically present their concerns the same way as anyone else does, either directly to local representatives or through the ordinary channels like the Chinese CCP or the Iranian Basij
the simple answer is thru reward systems. -
2019-05-29 at 10:37 AM UTCLooks like we’re sending 1,500 troops to the Middle East. Oh great.
Why do they consider 1 soldier a troop? I think of a group of people as a troop. WTF? -
2019-05-29 at 12:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Looks like we’re sending 1,500 troops to the Middle East. Oh great.
Why do they consider 1 soldier a troop? I think of a group of people as a troop. WTF?
*troupe* Is a term, I believe ,for multiple organisms in a group. They use fancy military terms like battalion ,fleet, platoon, brigade, etc for plural human soldiers. -
2019-05-29 at 1:05 PM UTC
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2019-05-29 at 1:16 PM UTCI read AtIas Shrugged a couple years ago (all 1200 "incredulous" pages). And basically the only way for capitalism to work in its purest form is that it doesn't.
If someone became quadrapalegic and had to be in a nursing home, but nobody liked them enough to want to shelter them, they would basically just die, which would be just fine by Miss Rand whom went on public support herself.
Wait.. -
2019-05-29 at 4:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by DietYellow I read AtIas Shrugged a couple years ago (all 1200 "incredulous" pages). And basically the only way for capitalism to work in its purest form is that it doesn't.
If someone became quadrapalegic and had to be in a nursing home, but nobody liked them enough to want to shelter them, they would basically just die, which would be just fine by Miss Rand whom went on public support herself.
Wait..
i was about to download the movie version of the thing the other day but didnt because it had a low imdb rating.
should i ?
