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Is Huawei stuff dangerous or is it just American paranoia?

  1. #61
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny name me a thriving honest business.

    They are literally strewn across the US. I have worked at many.
  2. #62
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker They are literally strewn across the US. I have worked at many.

    thats not an answer,
  3. #63
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny thats not an answer,

    Cards Against Humanity
  4. #64
    WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny name me a thriving honest business.

    Whirlpool.
  5. #65
    WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny sounds like you admit that you cant live without china.

    These days, We are very dependent on China, unfortunately... It's hard to go anywhere and avoid the largest economy in the world.
  6. #66
    Originally posted by WellHung Whirlpool.

    1, not thriving.

    2,

    On 22 February 2017, Whirlpool received two enforcement notices from Peterborough Trading Standards following the trading standards internal review.[50] 15 months after Whirlpool advised customers that it was safe to continue using faulty tumble dryers providing they were not left unattended, it was required to update its advice to customers advising them to unplug the appliances and stop using them until they were repaired. Whirlpool was also required to publicise the changed advice to consumers through advertisements in national newspapers, through social media and in stores. The enforcement notices had been originally issued on 16 January 2017, and were rejected by Whirlpool, who filed for an appeal that was then rejected. Had the company not complied with the notices at this point, it would have been taken to court. According to The Guardian, the latest action followed “an escalation” in the number of incidents caused by affected machines.[50]

    Bernard Hender, 19, and Doug McTavish, 39, died following a fire at a flat in Llanrwst, North Wales, on October 10, 2014
  7. #67
    WellHung Black Hole
    Damn. I've been thwarted. Good job.👍
  8. #68
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by WellHung Whirlpool.

    https://itep.org/notadime/

    the only way many of these businesses are able to survive is being able to use 'loopholes' (though I don't think it's really fair to call them loopholes considering it's by design, not circumstance) to pay literally zero tax. it's kind of amusing to see this sort of thing go on, all the while people whining about 'socialism' when other countries (in this case China) subsidise their industries to encourage growth.
  9. #69
    WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by aldra https://itep.org/notadime/

    the only way many of these businesses are able to survive is being able to use 'loopholes' (though I don't think it's really fair to call them loopholes considering it's by design, not circumstance) to pay literally zero tax. it's kind of amusing to see this sort of thing go on, all the while people whining about 'socialism' when other countries (in this case China) subsidise their industries to encourage growth.

    Agreed. Google seems to be the worst offender, no?👍
  10. #70
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Amazon's the worst as far as I know, did you hear about the 'bidding war' they started up when deciding where to build their new HQ?

    http://inthesetimes.com/article/21571/the-hq2-scam-how-amazon-used-a-bidding-war-to-scrape-cities-data

    one of the states even offered to allow Amazon to keep their employees' income tax...
  11. #71
    WellHung Black Hole
    Yea, As I recall they were trying to make it in New York City... but they got pushed out. Ur a brighter mind than my own, aldra, so let me ask you this... Why would the federal government create these loopholes for these companies, because they're only screwing themselves out of all this tax money... Is it because they are getting surreptitious kick backs from these companies, for doing so, that would be an amount greater than the tax dollars they would receive?
  12. #72
    WellHung Black Hole
    Wow. State was willing to give up the income tax? Why? Future economic growth?
  13. #73
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by WellHung Yea, As I recall they were trying to make it in New York City… but they got pushed out. Ur a brighter mind than my own, aldra, so let me ask you this… Why would the federal government create these loopholes for these companies, because they're only screwing themselves out of all this tax money… Is it because they are getting surreptitious kick backs from these companies, for doing so, that would be an amount greater than the tax dollars they would receive?

    My belief is that the US government sees more value in being able to use these companies to dominate international marketplaces than what they'd get in tax, but it's also hard to imagine companies like Amazon/Google/Apple etc. don't have the political clout to influence taxation law to their benefit so it's probably not wise to try to pin it down to just one factor

    Originally posted by WellHung Wow. State was willing to give up the income tax? Why? Future economic growth?

    The idea was that a new Amazon HQ would bring in enough high-paying jobs to gentrify large swathes of the city I think, but if that's not unfair competitive advantage then I don't know what is
  14. #74
    WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by aldra My belief is that the US government sees more value in being able to use these companies to dominate international marketplaces than what they'd get in tax, but it's also hard to imagine companies like Amazon/Google/Apple etc. don't have the political clout to influence taxation law to their benefit so it's probably not wise to try to pin it down to just one factor



    The idea was that a new Amazon HQ would bring in enough high-paying jobs to gentrify large swathes of the city I think, but if that's not unfair competitive advantage then I don't know what is

    Good point. Their lobbying in Congress is extremely influential... probly right up there with big pharma and the oil companies.

    As for your 2nd point... I hadn't considered the gentrification aspect at all, but it makes sense. Amazon certainly does not need any assistance in reducing/ eliminating their competition.
  15. #75
    Nil African Astronaut [the overexcited four-footed chanar]
    Originally posted by aldra Amazon's the worst as far as I know, did you hear about the 'bidding war' they started up when deciding where to build their new HQ?

    http://inthesetimes.com/article/21571/the-hq2-scam-how-amazon-used-a-bidding-war-to-scrape-cities-data

    one of the states even offered to allow Amazon to keep their employees' income tax…

    Damn, going straight feudal on niqqas.
  16. #76
    Originally posted by aldra https://itep.org/notadime/

    the only way many of these businesses are able to survive is being able to use 'loopholes' (though I don't think it's really fair to call them loopholes considering it's by design, not circumstance) to pay literally zero tax. it's kind of amusing to see this sort of thing go on, all the while people whining about 'socialism' when other countries (in this case China) subsidise their industries to encourage growth.

    this is why politics is just an extension of economy.

    has always been since the day mayer rothchild lent his money to the king of england.
  17. #77
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    The Chinese insert backdoors in practically everything they put out.
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
  18. #78
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny thats not an answer,

    It's the only answer a troll is permitted to be in possession of.
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