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Is Huawei stuff dangerous or is it just American paranoia?

  1. #21
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator which use their own chips that are built from the ground up.

    they don't; they combine existing ARM and various GPU chips into a single module
  2. #22
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by aldra they don't; they combine existing ARM and various GPU chips into a single module

    ARM only licenses chip designs, same with the GPUs. You can't just assemble an SOC from off the shelf parts, it's all fabricated in one go on one chip. Apple purchases ARM designs but heavily modifies them before getting them manufactured by TSMC. Project Kalamata is also geared to make Apple completely leave Intel behind.
  3. #23
    Admin African Astronaut
    All they have do is place a hardware keylogger on your device or place hidden cameras inside your residence when you're gone, and you're fucked.

    Or they can use some 0days and just call you and now you've got a root kit on your device.

    If a serious agency wants to monitor you, they'll monitor you.
  4. #24
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Admin All they have do is place a hardware keylogger on your device or place hidden cameras inside your residence when you're gone, and you're fucked.

    "All they have to do" lol.

    If they have unfettered physical access to your shit then they can probably break your knees and get whatever they want from you.

    Actually getting free physical access is difficult. And if you have any type of home surveillance or security yourself, it becomes much harder. The fact is that government agencies are not magic ninjas. When it comes down to it, it will involve an actual human being breaking into your shit and planting shit on your shit. And at the end of the day, nothing makes that easier.

    Or they can use some 0days and just call you and now you've got a root kit on your device.

    That's not how hacking works. A zero day is just an otherwise unknown exploit. Usually the exploit is some shit like your printer's buffer is insecure to other devices on your network, and then it can fuck you when it talks to your device. It's incredibly difficult to get remote access to devices these days.

    More likely, the NSA and similar agencies have an actual planted backdoor in the software somewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if Google's GApps package (closed source and proprietary) has backdoors so they can just access phones whenever.

    If a serious agency wants to monitor you, they'll monitor you.

    True.

    Just, it's not magic.
  5. #25
    Admin African Astronaut
    ^The USSS has been know to access people's devices when they have the opportunity to and place keyloggers.

    The are many kinds of 0days. One could be a phone call to your phone that places a rootkit on your phone. It's possible but expensive.
  6. #26
    Sophie Pedophile Tech Support
    I don't really know all that much about Hauwei, but i assume China would be getting your data instead of the US if you use a Hauwei.

    As an interesting side note, i once took all the important files/programs, shared libraries and boot related things from a Samsung phone i had. And i wish i would have stored the results or made a screenshot because there were Licensing files related to the things i mentioned that i extracted along with the rest. And after puzzling some of the stuff back together i actually found multiple License files, signed and/or written on behalf of the NSA. How do i know this? They literally mentioned the NSA in these licenses.
  7. #27
    Originally posted by Sophie I don't really know all that much about Hauwei, but i assume China would be getting your data instead of the US if you use a Hauwei.

    As an interesting side note, i once took all the important files/programs, shared libraries and boot related things from a Samsung phone i had. And i wish i would have stored the results or made a screenshot because there were Licensing files related to the things i mentioned that i extracted along with the rest. And after puzzling some of the stuff back together i actually found multiple License files, signed and/or written on behalf of the NSA. How do i know this? They literally mentioned the NSA in these licenses.

    how did you know which NSA ?
  8. #28
    Admin African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Sophie I don't really know all that much about Hauwei, but i assume China would be getting your data instead of the US if you use a Hauwei.

    As an interesting side note, i once took all the important files/programs, shared libraries and boot related things from a Samsung phone i had. And i wish i would have stored the results or made a screenshot because there were Licensing files related to the things i mentioned that i extracted along with the rest. And after puzzling some of the stuff back together i actually found multiple License files, signed and/or written on behalf of the NSA. How do i know this? They literally mentioned the NSA in these licenses.

    They are likely fir legit use. Maybe for those emergency broadcasts...which could be some type of Backdoor or something...
  9. #29
    WellHung Black Hole
    If it's Chinese... I don't trust it.
  10. #30
    Originally posted by WellHung If it's Chinese… I don't trust it.

    wheres your samsung made ?
  11. #31
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny wheres your samsung made ?

    Korear
  12. #32
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny wheres your samsung made ?

    In ur mom's literal basement
  13. #33
    Originally posted by Sudo Korear

    korea, made in china.
  14. #34
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator In ur mom's literal basement

    stop thinking if your mom.
  15. #35
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    CRITICIZE, OSTRACIZE, SODOMIZE THE CHILDFUCKERS.
  16. #36
    Admin African Astronaut
    Originally posted by WellHung If it's Chinese… I don't trust it.

    China may just be the future.
  17. #37
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Admin China may just be the future.

    They already are the future in the present.
  18. #38
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    But the future can still be dark. Watch, the internet will be a dark and desolate landscape soon. Chinese corporations will loom over a totalitarian landscape of horrifying pseudo capitalism under state control.
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
  19. #39
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    And the only thing worse than real capitalism is pseudo-capitalism
  20. #40
    WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny wheres your samsung made ?

    Vietnam.
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