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2019-04-25 at 4:57 PM UTCWhat did you do?
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2019-04-25 at 5:27 PM UTC
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2019-04-25 at 7:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by Common De-mominator Never played Drug Wars lol.
I always found drug dealing to be as much of a business as anything else, minus market regulations, and avoiding the legal repercussions seems to be a matter of having good systems and ample consumer trust.
I guarantee I'd take over wherever I was dealing, and I'd definitely use technology to make my operation virtually airtight and fly under the radar of LEAs at the same time.
Yeah I mean it's definitely a business. It's why I'm excited to try to apply it to the legitimate market. Crypto made shit easy Peasy, but the people who would actually do that were few and far between. There was a lot of feeling people out. But there's also a lot of risk/ risk management. A lot of planning and problem solving. Here's one:
You're meeting a new customer through an acquaintance. Your friend knows this person, but can't quite vouch for them.
Where do you meet them? Do you bring a friend with you? Does the new customer get in your car or do you get in theirs? If you get in their car, where do you sit? If they get in your car, where do they sit?
Do you conclude business quickly at the spot where you meet them, or do you take the time to feel them out? Did you bring product with you at all? -
2019-04-25 at 8:21 PM UTCHow are we all?
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2019-04-25 at 8:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER Here's one:
You're meeting a new customer through an acquaintance. Your friend knows this person, but can't quite vouch for them.
Where do you meet them? Do you bring a friend with you? Does the new customer get in your car or do you get in theirs? If you get in their car, where do you sit? If they get in your car, where do they sit?
Do you conclude business quickly at the spot where you meet them, or do you take the time to feel them out? Did you bring product with you at all?
Hmm I suppose it would depend on the specific variables involved.
I'd bring a friend but I'd pick a somewhat populated public place to feel them out initially, which also works for making everything feel safe.
I arrive 30 minutes early to scope out the spot, make sure they arrive after I do and I have control of the field exactly as I want. I'd probably plan out a driving route so as to remove them from the planned spot and take them somewhere else while feeling them out.
They get into my car in the passenger seat, my friend sits behind them while we talk.
I don't bring the product with me if this is just an introduction, or if I need to provide a sample then I might bring a small amount of product, place it in advance and do the ol' "you can find treasure behind that bush" thing, but only after they're out of my car and the meeting is concluding. If the expectation/plan is for me to sell them the goods at that meeting then I'd probably hide it in my wheel well or something and figure out a dropoff. But they don't touch the product until they're out of my car either way, and I don't drop it off in sight of them. I get the money, then they pick up the product. If they don't like the way I conduct business then too bad. -
2019-04-25 at 9:28 PM UTC
Originally posted by Common De-mominator Hmm I suppose it would depend on the specific variables involved.
I'd bring a friend but I'd pick a somewhat populated public place to feel them out initially, which also works for making everything feel safe.
I arrive 30 minutes early to scope out the spot, make sure they arrive after I do and I have control of the field exactly as I want. I'd probably plan out a driving route so as to remove them from the planned spot and take them somewhere else while feeling them out.
They get into my car in the passenger seat, my friend sits behind them while we talk.
I don't bring the product with me if this is just an introduction, or if I need to provide a sample then I might bring a small amount of product, place it in advance and do the ol' "you can find treasure behind that bush" thing, but only after they're out of my car and the meeting is concluding. If the expectation/plan is for me to sell them the goods at that meeting then I'd probably hide it in my wheel well or something and figure out a dropoff. But they don't touch the product until they're out of my car either way, and I don't drop it off in sight of them. I get the money, then they pick up the product. If they don't like the way I conduct business then too bad.
Nice. Yeah you pretty much passed. Of course I'm not ex expert by any means.
I went from getting shorted and robbed more then I would've liked- to being pretty much problem free by putting them in the passengers seat. When people don't know what's going on behind them, they're WAY less likely to do anything sketchy. By that same token, I always jump in the back. Even if something does go down and there's another dude in the back row with me, it's a hell of a lot easier to deal with one person to your side than one to your side and one behind you. One time I didn't even need a gun to subdue a guy. Being in the back seat, you can use something as simple as a belt to pull around their neck in between the headrest. Granted, he broke the dashboard and fucked up the reclining thing on the seat, but it's better than getting stabbed or robbed, or taken for $2000 worth of product.
The main reason I'd drive someone around is to watch the rear view. Cops don't work alone. And generally they don't want to be out of sight for too long. I've had people say "why are you driving so far?" You got someplace you need to be dude? And then of course the samples can be anywhere. Like I said before- a good one is a particular garage sale sign or Missing animal taped to a telephone pole. It's easy to spot and take with you, and you don't have to look sketchy and dig around for it.
But yeah- you done good.
A lot of times, you just have to acknowledge that your not dealing with very smart people. And if you want to get paid, sometimes you have to compromise. The assist I gave the other night was some of the stupidest shit I've seen in a long time. I recommended going to an all right burger spot down the block. It's on a corner. It's bright. There's always people around. You have plausible reason he be there. The guy my friend was meeting wanted to meet at the abandoned car wash a couple miles down. Not fucking kidding. Dark. Razor wire everywhere. One gate in/out. Just absolute dogshit. I told him to tell the guy change of venue, but the guy said there were "too many people and cops" by the burger spot. I mean you can do a drug deal in a car NEXT to a police officer. As long as you're laughing and talking and comfortable and not looking all weird and sketched out, flashing money.,..you're cool. If 3 cars are parked in an abandoned car wash with lights off, map light on, when a cruiser rolls past....you're getting searched. End of story.
Obviously it turned out well, but I've had situations like that a bunch of times where I just had to create some plausible deniability and then bite the bullet.
E: Buying some cheap dollar menu shit to have in a bag next to you in a car, so you can say you just pulled over to eat....has worked more times then a care to admit. And not even the most seasoned officer is likely to paw through the cold, wadded up remnants of a beef and been burrito looking for heroin.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-04-25 at 10:59 PM UTCThe best drug dealers I knew never had a driver's license.
Make the deal at the top of a hill and bike there for an easy escapeThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-04-26 at 12:05 AM UTCThe postal service was the best drug dealer I ever had - UnknownThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-04-26 at 12:29 AM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER Nice. Yeah you pretty much passed. Of course I'm not ex expert by any means.
I went from getting shorted and robbed more then I would've liked- to being pretty much problem free by putting them in the passengers seat. When people don't know what's going on behind them, they're WAY less likely to do anything sketchy. By that same token, I always jump in the back. Even if something does go down and there's another dude in the back row with me, it's a hell of a lot easier to deal with one person to your side than one to your side and one behind you. One time I didn't even need a gun to subdue a guy. Being in the back seat, you can use something as simple as a belt to pull around their neck in between the headrest. Granted, he broke the dashboard and fucked up the reclining thing on the seat, but it's better than getting stabbed or robbed, or taken for $2000 worth of product.
The main reason I'd drive someone around is to watch the rear view. Cops don't work alone. And generally they don't want to be out of sight for too long. I've had people say "why are you driving so far?" You got someplace you need to be dude? And then of course the samples can be anywhere. Like I said before- a good one is a particular garage sale sign or Missing animal taped to a telephone pole. It's easy to spot and take with you, and you don't have to look sketchy and dig around for it.
But yeah- you done good.
A lot of times, you just have to acknowledge that your not dealing with very smart people. And if you want to get paid, sometimes you have to compromise. The assist I gave the other night was some of the stupidest shit I've seen in a long time. I recommended going to an all right burger spot down the block. It's on a corner. It's bright. There's always people around. You have plausible reason he be there. The guy my friend was meeting wanted to meet at the abandoned car wash a couple miles down. Not fucking kidding. Dark. Razor wire everywhere. One gate in/out. Just absolute dogshit. I told him to tell the guy change of venue, but the guy said there were "too many people and cops" by the burger spot. I mean you can do a drug deal in a car NEXT to a police officer. As long as you're laughing and talking and comfortable and not looking all weird and sketched out, flashing money.,..you're cool. If 3 cars are parked in an abandoned car wash with lights off, map light on, when a cruiser rolls past….you're getting searched. End of story.
Obviously it turned out well, but I've had situations like that a bunch of times where I just had to create some plausible deniability and then bite the bullet.
E: Buying some cheap dollar menu shit to have in a bag next to you in a car, so you can say you just pulled over to eat….has worked more times then a care to admit. And not even the most seasoned officer is likely to paw through the cold, wadded up remnants of a beef and been burrito looking for heroin.
You're about as qualified as one can be, not like you can get a PhD in thugonomics and do post doctoral research in crack slinging. And to that end, I see this as high validation of my drug dealing potential.
Tbh I mostly judged that off common sense, awareness of what might go wrong etc.
In the situation with your friend meeting the dumbass, I would probably tell them to hit the road unless they came to my location honestly. But I'm assuming a position where you don't need to make any particular sale, because that is the best negotiating position in every situation: if you can walk away, you control what happens.
Going somewhere completely secluded to perform a drug deal seems mega retarded, the first thing that will attract a cop's suspicion is whether or not you have a reason to be somewhere. -
2019-04-26 at 1:22 AM UTCI've seen many drug deals go down inside the Mcdonalds on 17th ave SE in Calgary. There are cameras but the cops take at least a few minutes to respond so you can be in and out quickly.
I also used to order food and snort a few rails off the food tray while i was eating right in front of families eating with their kids.
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2019-04-26 at 2:30 AM UTC
Originally posted by Ghost I've seen many drug deals go down inside the Mcdonalds on 17th ave SE in Calgary. There are cameras but the cops take at least a few minutes to respond so you can be in and out quickly.
I also used to order food and snort a few rails off the food tray while i was eating right in front of families eating with their kids.
one time I was at a bank by the Macs on 17th and a black guy and a girl pulled up in a car and asked if I had any "food" so I said "ok meet me around back" then when they came back I said "ok I've got some burritos, some tacos, Tostitos..." and she said "YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE" and peeled off.
The funny part to me was that she called me an "asshole" because I got her hopes up.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-04-26 at 2:32 AM UTCSWIM literally just meets up with niggers once, talks shit then gives someone else their number and collects the residuals every week.
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2019-04-26 at 2:44 AM UTCOh yeah I forgot to say
Originally posted by CASPER The guy my friend was meeting wanted to meet at the abandoned car wash a couple miles down. Not fucking kidding. Dark. Razor wire everywhere. One gate in/out. Just absolute dogshit. I told him to tell the guy change of venue, but the guy said there were "too many people and cops" by the burger spot.
That shit sounds like a massive setup. Not gonna lie, I would have gotten sketched out and called off the deal at that insistence. It sounds like walking into the world's most obvious robbery.
I think location would be a sticking point for me. Either I get to decide where we meet (I.e. a suitable public place with lots of witnesses in case someone decides to get clever) or get fucked. -
2019-04-26 at 3:04 AM UTCMeet at their house, inside.
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2019-04-26 at 3:05 AM UTCmeet them inside a tanning bed. They'll be almost naked so you know they aren't wearing a wire and it's soundproof in case u have to ice them
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2019-04-26 at 5:26 AM UTCWhat if the tanning bed IS the wire
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2019-04-26 at 9:54 AM UTCMore fraudulent bank charges. Hey esbity, how about leaving my accounts alone eh?
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2019-04-26 at 10:09 AM UTCHaven’t seen him for awhile Juice, have you? Wonder if he’s in jail?
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2019-04-26 at 10:10 AM UTCHe posts as "admin" now
