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Where is the line between being a junkie and not?

  1. 2019-04-19 at 3:05 AM UTC
    #281
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Solstice I knew a guy who washed dishes who claimed he needed heroin to handle the pain of the hot water in the sink.

    In all fairness, the water is pretty hot in restaurant dish washing stations.

    Also, if I wound up a dishwasher as an actual regular adult job, I'd want heroin just to deal with the feelings of utter failure.

    He's got two solid reasons to use as far as I'm concerned.
  2. 2019-04-19 at 3:18 AM UTC
    #282
    vindicktive vinny Black Hole
    Originally posted by gadzooks In all fairness, the water is pretty hot in restaurant dish washing stations.

    Also, if I wound up a dishwasher as an actual regular adult job, I'd want heroin just to deal with the feelings of utter failure.

    He's got two solid reasons to use as far as I'm concerned.

    fuck you.

    washing dishes is a honesst and honorable job.
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  3. 2019-04-19 at 3:22 AM UTC
    #283
    Daddyissues Tuskegee Airman
    Ya zooks. Why you actin all uppity bro?
  4. 2019-04-19 at 3:25 AM UTC
    #284
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny fuck you.

    washing dishes is a honesst and honorable job.

    Okay, maybe I should have specified that if I found myself a dishwasher for life, then I would feel like a failure.

    It is honest work, though. But sadly it doesn't pay enough to really do much.

    It can also easily be automated.

    And you only get like 10% of the tips on top of your minimum wage.

    Probably my least favorite job I've had.

    But to each their own.
  5. 2019-04-19 at 3:28 AM UTC
    #285
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    #SeizeTheMeansOfProduction
    #EndCapitalism
    #AutomateAllJobs
    #EndWork
  6. 2019-04-19 at 3:30 AM UTC
    #286
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Still waiting for the pic of the fat chronic meth head.
  7. 2019-04-19 at 3:37 AM UTC
    #287
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by gadzooks It can also easily be automated.

    Dishwashers have existed for almost a hundred and seventy years. The reason restaurants don't rely on them is because those dishes need to be spotless, not 90% good, like it might fly in homes.
  8. 2019-04-19 at 3:42 AM UTC
    #288
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator Dishwashers have existed for almost a hundred and seventy years. The reason restaurants don't rely on them is because those dishes need to be spotless, not 90% good, like it might fly in homes.

    So we've gotten to a point that we can generate perfectly human-looking faces that would trick anyone, among millions of other technological advances recently in AI and the like, and yet we can't build a dishwasher that is more effective than a human?

    I find that hard to believe.

    Also, humans don't guarantee 100% cleanliness. Extensively trained astronauts and engineers and medical doctors all make mistakes... I imagine that a person being paid minimum wage to wash dishes is AT LEAST as likely to make mistakes.
  9. 2019-04-19 at 4:28 AM UTC
    #289
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by gadzooks So we've gotten to a point that we can generate perfectly human-looking faces that would trick anyone, among millions of other technological advances recently in AI and the like, and yet we can't build a dishwasher that is more effective than a human?

    Deploying software is comparatively ez. Engineering a reliable hardware product with the same range of flexibility as a human in a manual job is fucking hard.

    Good luck getting them to scrape the burns out of a pot. Good luck getting them to clean irregularly shaped cups and bowls.

    Also, humans don't guarantee 100% cleanliness. Extensively trained astronauts and engineers and medical doctors all make mistakes… I imagine that a person being paid minimum wage to wash dishes is AT LEAST as likely to make mistakes.

    You can chew a human out.
  10. 2019-04-19 at 4:34 AM UTC
    #290
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator Deploying software is comparatively ez. Engineering a reliable hardware product with the same range of flexibility as a human in a manual job is fucking hard.

    Good luck getting them to scrape the burns out of a pot. Good luck getting them to clean irregularly shaped cups and bowls.

    Fair enough... But, we will reach a point in the near future where we will have "3d programmers" that are basically both engineers and programmers... It's not that outlandish a notion. Look at the rise in 3d printing hobbyists, and Arduino robotics, and so on. We will get to a point where mechanical/electrical engineering and software "engineering" will all be united into a single field.

    Originally posted by Common De-mominator You can chew a human out.

    But the poor dishwasher is making minimum wage.

    He shouldn't be expected to achieve better results than the astronaut or surgeon or whatever.
  11. 2019-04-19 at 4:35 AM UTC
    #291
    vindicktive vinny Black Hole
    Originally posted by Common De-mominator Dishwashers have existed for almost a hundred and seventy years. The reason restaurants don't rely on them is because those dishes need to be spotless, not 90% good, like it might fly in homes.

    spotless, according to the definition of thy bretherens.

  12. 2019-04-19 at 5:05 AM UTC
    #292
    Daddyissues Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by gadzooks But the poor dishwasher is making minimum wage.

    What does wage have to do with it. They are getting paid to do a job. If your only job is to ensure them dishes are clean as fuck.. then damn... make them mother fuckers shine. The pay in this scenario is on par with the job.

    Let's not act like someone whose only job is to clean dishes should do a shit job because they dont make a doctor's salary for cleaning dishes ffs.
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  13. 2019-04-19 at 5:08 AM UTC
    #293
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Daddyissues What does wage have to do with it. They are getting paid to do a job. If your only job is to ensure them dishes are clean as fuck.. then damn… make them mother fuckers shine. The pay in this scenario is on par with the job.

    Let's not act like someone whose only job is to clean dishes should do a shit job because they dont make a doctor's salary for cleaning dishes ffs.

    Have you ever been a dishwasher?

    It's not exactly an enviable position.

    Why should they get paid minimum wage and be expected of the exact same results as a plastic surgeon making close to a million dollars a year?
  14. 2019-04-19 at 5:29 AM UTC
    #294
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Originally posted by -SpectraL Still waiting for the pic of the fat chronic meth head.

    Because we all take pictures of our meth head friends

    It's probably all the soda and bullshit they drink
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  15. 2019-04-19 at 7:04 AM UTC
    #295
    WellHung Black Hole
    This is a great question. I consider myself an addict, but not a junkie. I'm not sure if junkie is a slang or real technical term... but the image that's in my head when I think a junkie is someone who's unclean, homeless, and has subjugated completely everything else in their life, for the drug... basically they've lost all their possessions and relationships with others to the drug, really only have the clothes on their back.
  16. 2019-04-19 at 7:37 AM UTC
    #296
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    I might have made this whole thing up, but I always thought a "junkie" was a heroin addict because an old slang term for heroin was "junk"
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  17. 2019-04-19 at 7:41 AM UTC
    #297
    WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by Jυicebox I might have made this whole thing up, but I always thought a "junkie" was a heroin addict because an old slang term for heroin was "junk"

    I kind of think this too... when I think of junkie... I mainly think of heroin. Tweakers are speed freaks junkies are heroin addicts.
  18. 2019-04-19 at 7:41 AM UTC
    #298
    WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by Jυicebox I might have made this whole thing up, but I always thought a "junkie" was a heroin addict because an old slang term for heroin was "junk"

    Alice in Chains always called it junk in their songs.
  19. 2019-04-19 at 11:58 AM UTC
    #299
    Common De-mominator African Astronaut
    Originally posted by gadzooks Fair enough… But, we will reach a point in the near future where we will have "3d programmers" that are basically both engineers and programmers… It's not that outlandish a notion. Look at the rise in 3d printing hobbyists, and Arduino robotics, and so on. We will get to a point where mechanical/electrical engineering and software "engineering" will all be united into a single field.

    Eventually everything will be automated, but it's not remotely a realistic present concern for dishwashers.



    But the poor dishwasher is making minimum wage.

    He shouldn't be expected to achieve better results than the astronaut or surgeon or whatever.

    He's washing dishes, not going into space or operating.
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  20. 2019-04-19 at 12:36 PM UTC
    #300
    Narc Naturally Camouflaged [connect my yokel-like scolytidae]
    Originally posted by gadzooks So we've gotten to a point that we can generate perfectly human-looking faces that would trick anyone, among millions of other technological advances recently in AI and the like, and yet we can't build a dishwasher that is more effective than a human?

    I find that hard to believe.

    Also, humans don't guarantee 100% cleanliness. Extensively trained astronauts and engineers and medical doctors all make mistakes… I imagine that a person being paid minimum wage to wash dishes is AT LEAST as likely to make mistakes.

    You could easily build a machine that would perfectly wash any type of dish or pot with current technology. Fitting such a machine into the average restaurant kitchen and/or running it cost effectively compared to paying some sap minwage is another matter.


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